College Hosts Sex, Masturbation Tutorial – Inside A Church

by Katie McHugh - Allegheny College on February 21, 2013

MEADVILLE – Allegheny College’s Ford Memorial Chapel was transformed into a boudoir of sorts Wednesday night, as professional sex educators advised students in attendance how best to touch themselves and their partners to reach orgasm in what was billed as an educational seminar.

The chapel, built and dedicated in 1902, is where Catholic mass and non-denominational services are conducted every week at the private liberal arts college in northwestern Pennsylvania. But all that took a back pew to Wednesday’s festivities, dubbed “I Heart the Female Orgasm” and hosted by a variety of student groups on campus.

The two sex educators, Marshall Miller and Kate Weinberg, talked students through a variety of masturbation techniques during the event.

“Sometimes it can be difficult finding your G spot by yourself, because it involves inserting a finger or fingers inside the vagina into the front wall of the body, and that kind of results in an awkward, kind of clawlike hand position,” Weinberg said, demonstrating with a pawing motion as the audience giggled. “Obviously, there are better ways you can position your body. Or if you’ve got a partner, you can get your partner to insert their finger or fingers inside your vagina in the front wall of your body in a sort of a J curve.”

Miller also weighed in, noting “some (women) find that if they change the angle or position, they can find some way of rubbing against their partner’s body, against the base of his penis or pubic bone, and with rubbing to have enough stimulation to orgasm in intercourse.”

In statements to The College Fix, the college’s chaplain defended the event’s location, calling its theme “responsible,” and a campus spokesperson said it offered a “great message.”

While the chapel is hosting services in conjunction with Lent, on Wednesday the building turned into a sexual marketplace of sorts, as student groups sold buttons, t-shirts and hats bearing the program’s name inside the chapel itself after the event concluded. They also sold the book written by program coordinators Marshall Miller and Dorian Solot titled “I Heart Female Orgasm: An Extraordinary Orgasm Guide.”

Meanwhile, the sex educators had also told students masturbation is not a sin.

“Some people figure out masturbation and orgasm as teenagers, some people figure it out later than that,” said Weinberg, describing her lifelong fascination with pleasuring herself. “And some people figure it out earlier than that. Like preschool age. I was part of that last category.”

Weinberg also weighed in on a portion of the Book of Genesis in regard to masturbation.

“So this primary anti-masturbation story is about this guy, Onan. … And Onan refused to sleep with his brother’s wife, so he spilled his seed on the ground — that’s how it’s defined — and for that, God struck him dead,” she said.

But Weinberg said she believes that because Biblical scholars debate the exact meanings of many portions of the Bible, it permits a wide variety of sexual activity.

“A lot of Bible scholars say that’s the primary anti-masturbation story, but I don’t really see it,” she continued. “Onan wasn’t struck dead for masturbating. He was struck down for not sleeping with his brother’s wife. So the masturbation wasn’t the sin. So obviously, you know, the Bible is something that is interpreted in a lot of different ways.”

During the event, Weinberg and Miller played the famous fake orgasm scene from “When Harry Met Sally” on a projected screen, and also displayed different anatomical diagrams depicting women’s genitals.

“If you’ve got a vagina, your genitals are tucked pretty neatly inside your body. It’s a pretty handy place to keep one’s genitals, really. But because of this, many heterosexual women have never seen another woman’s vagina or vulva,” Weinberg said. “If you’ve got cool dangly parts down there, if you’re voluptuous, if one side’s longer than the other, if your va-jay-jay’s got some character, some personality, it’s not a sign that you’re abnormal and deformed. It’s a sign that you’re a healthy adult woman.”

Weinberg later held up two books titled I’ll Show You Mine and Petals, encouraging students to flip through them after the program: “We’ve got two amazing books up here with pages and pages of art photographs of vaginas and vulvas.”

The event was hosted by Allegheny’s student government and Allegheny College’s Reproductive Health Coalition, along with Young Feminists and Queers and Allies. It was funded by student activities fees.

Student reaction to the seminar was mixed.

One Christian student, Shannon McAvinchey, 20, said the school’s student government supported Christian groups on campus and were not trying to intentionally offend Christian students by hosting the event in the chapel. At the same time, however, she said some students’ attitudes towards Christians troubled her.

“I guess what frustrates me most is when you say you’re a Christian, your views are automatically not so much disrespected as dismissed,” McAvinchey said.

Other students, however, were excited on their way to the chapel, chatting and laughing happily.

“I have needs!” one girl said.

“I have condoms! Jesus!” her friend shrieked.

Officials at the college took a blasé attitude toward the event.

Chaplain Jane Ellen Nickel, who conducts non-denominational Christian services each Sunday and manages the office of Spiritual and Religious Life, said in an email to The College Fix that she saw nothing wrong with the event, and hoped students would feel comfortable attending a religious service there later.

“I don’t have a problem with it being held in the chapel. The program advocates responsible, respectful decision-making regarding sexual behavior, and includes the option waiting for marriage, a message that resonates with many students of faith. While the name may have some shock value, the event itself is consistent with our policy of opening the building to campus groups. We would love it if students at such an event experience the chapel as a welcoming space, and then feel encouraged to attend a religious service or program.”

Another campus administrator told The College Fix he had no problem with the event’s location.

“They have a great message about caring relationships,” said Dean of Students Joe DiChristina in an e-mail. “I appreciated their approach.”

Fix contributor Katie McHugh is a student at Allegheny College.

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IMAGE: Allegheny College Ford Memorial Chapel

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1 doesntmatter February 21, 2013 at 9:00 am

Demonic.

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2 etecs February 21, 2013 at 9:11 am

Would the College have the same Sensitivity for an Islamic Mosque????

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3 doesntmatter February 21, 2013 at 9:17 am

I think this all goes to prove the reality of Christ. Evil never stops in his efforts to destroy Christ. No other faith or religion is attacked as much as Christianity for a reason but Christ has already won the victory and Satan knows it.

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4 Scarface13 February 21, 2013 at 11:07 am

You have made a significant point doesnmatter, God always wins and no matter what Satan Does, it glorifies and validates the Almighty and this really infuriates the Great Deceiver!

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5 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:21 pm

So God is like the Harlem Globetrotters?

6 heather February 21, 2013 at 9:25 am

Islam is the barbarian army of the left, so they defend the most heinous of islam while shredding the decency of Christianity.

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7 doesntmatter February 21, 2013 at 9:29 am

The Lord said it would be this way. We Look to the martyrs of the Christian faith for our example of how we must live and deal with evil.

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8 Matthew February 21, 2013 at 9:42 am

The Lord also said go forth and multiply . . .

9 USAMORALSGONE February 21, 2013 at 9:41 am

That is the best and most truthful comment posted

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10 imissAB February 22, 2013 at 12:28 am

My very thought. I say we try that next week, I’ll bring the bacon!

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11 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:11 am

Literally. Satan’s demons and his agents were at work here, and in some of these comments.

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12 doesntmatter February 21, 2013 at 10:20 am

I agree. Satan roams the earth seeking whom he will devour and devour he does. I pray for God’s mercy for ALL of us. He loves all of us and has commanded us to do the same.

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13 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:22 am

Remember, Satan has no power over us. He is weak, and a lie. Stay strong, brothers and sisters.

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14 doesntmatter February 21, 2013 at 10:28 am

Pray, pray, pray. I would only say that we all should comment less and pray more – that certainly goes for me.

15 Jesuslovesme February 21, 2013 at 7:28 pm

Okay moron.

16 Matthew February 21, 2013 at 10:41 am

“Literally”? Because . . . that’s terrifying. Did he tell you that? Did he say anything else?

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17 Daveisapussy February 21, 2013 at 7:27 pm

How do you remember to breath while you’re eating? I’m literally worried you’ll forget given how stupid your comments are.

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18 Bubba February 21, 2013 at 9:02 am

Anything goes these days

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19 ConcernedCitizen February 21, 2013 at 9:07 am

The Church is as sacred to the Christian community as the Mosque is to the Muslim community (it is God’s house, not just a place of worship). But I guess since they know how peaceful Christians are, they feel like they can just defecate all over our religion. This is sickening.

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20 Good February 21, 2013 at 9:28 am

My goodness you are uptight, “concernedcitizen.” Only the most retrograde Christianity is still afraid of masturbation.

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21 doesntmatter February 21, 2013 at 9:34 am

God intended sex to be between a man and woman. Period! Not between two people of the same sex nor with one’s self nor with animals and the reason He did it this way is because it’s for OUR good and the procreation of His creation, those whom He loves. Leave it to man to distort and twist the goodness of God. Today what’s not good for us is called good and what is evil and wicked for us is called good. You are deceived. Repent from your evil ways and accept the mercy and love of God so that you will live in fullness and peace and contentment.

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22 Good February 21, 2013 at 9:36 am

Oh, I accept the love of God — all night long! Immaculate conception, anyone?

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23 Michael Bingham February 21, 2013 at 9:53 am

Would you be so brave and tolerant if someone were to mock your mother or your father?

If so, why don’t you post there names and phone numbers.

24 JustaMom February 21, 2013 at 10:35 am

I feel for your soul sir, I truly do. You CAN know the love of God…. “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16

25 Athiest and proud of it February 21, 2013 at 10:18 am

God intended nothing because he doesn’t exist. If god intended sex to be between a man in a woman then he wouldn’t have made homosexuality a thing because your god doesn’t make mistakes right? Homosexuality is just as natural as heterosexuality. It’s found all over the animal kingdom, yes humans are animals too. Also don’t forget these student’s didn’t just walk in and say we’re holding a seminar. The church leaders allowed this, which highlights your christian hypocrisy. god is for the simple minded who refuse or are incapable of thinking critically.

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26 doesntmatter February 21, 2013 at 10:26 am

I will not argue with your intellect. You cannot speak of Him and His will. You do not know anything of Him.

27 Michael White February 21, 2013 at 10:38 am

Hey…Oh Great Enlightened One…One day, you are going to die, and, frankly, I really wouldn’t want to be in your shoes.

28 Passer by February 21, 2013 at 9:41 am

Only those who don’t know Scripture are spouting nonsense like that. But God is your judge, and your punishment is not far behind you, unless you repent.
Furthermore only idiots who are incapable of engaging in a rational discourse try to use Ad Hominems to “prove their point”.

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29 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 9:51 am

There will be many a lie-beral who panics as the end of their pitiful lives is in front of them. He attacks peaceful people of faith because he knows there is little immediate consequence to it. $100 says he doesn’t have the guts to drive his Prius over to Islamabad with his “Coexist” and “Gay Rights Flag” bumper sticker and put on a homosexual demonstration for the world’s true savages…

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30 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:17 pm

Oh yeah? I’ll show you! I’m driving MY Prius to Islamabad right NOW! So what do you think of glug glug glug glug glug….

31 J W Majors Majors February 21, 2013 at 10:08 am

Good is not going to repent,nor will this Nation.America is now an official enemy of the most high.A showdown is inevitable. Start looking out for your family and survival. This is going to get ugly.

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32 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:17 pm

When everything gets ugly, that’s when top-notch masturbation skills are most needed.

33 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 10:37 am

“The cross is foolishness to those who are perishing.”

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34 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:15 pm

Passer by:
“I am against ad hominems… unlike you idiots!”

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35 Michael Bingham February 21, 2013 at 9:51 am

God’s word is meant for all times. It cannot and will not be adjusted by his creation to suit their moral decline.

Do you really think that practicing or being open about your sexual proclivities makes you more advanced or somehow more developed than others?

Is this really the standard by which you measure a societies advancement?

If that is so, than animals are way more advanced than us.

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36 BADABING February 21, 2013 at 10:07 am

go play with yourself in a Mosque, see what happens COWARD

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37 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 10:10 am

Haven’t we had enough explosions in mosques?

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38 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:10 am

No one is afraid of it, or would even mind if these idiots at the college wanted to conduct this lecture. The point is that they chose to offend Christians by hosting it in a church.

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39 sheeeesh February 21, 2013 at 10:43 am

It was hosted in a Church because all other spaces on Campus were booked for the evening.

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40 sharpss February 21, 2013 at 11:23 am

Dave: Do you mean like Christians offend free-thinkers and strive to control the entire planet just like Muslims do?

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41 The Oscillator February 22, 2013 at 9:52 am

They actually couldn’t find another place to host it last minute, so instead of cancelling it, they had to go here.

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42 sb February 21, 2013 at 10:25 am

Afraid of it? No.
1. I know I won’t be shelling out tuition dollars for it. This is not what my child will be going to college for.
2. In a church? No way, that is just disrespectful and obnoxious.

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43 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 10:35 am

It’s not about masturbation. It’s about intentional, hateful desecration.

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44 Sarah February 21, 2013 at 4:26 pm

It was actually supposed to be about healthy relationships, with the female orgasm being somewhat of a catch phrase. It was never meant to be intentional, hateful desecration.

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45 Michael White February 21, 2013 at 10:37 am

And only fool like you would make such a big political statement of playing with yourself.

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46 jason February 21, 2013 at 11:21 am

Really? Then why does Ms. Weinberg feel the need to teach a course in masturbation in the 21st century? Ms. Weinberg is a stellar example of why the Palestinians and the rest of the Middle East hate Israel.

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47 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:20 pm

So you’re anti-semitic AND anti-semen-ic! Please, think of the humanity of Shylock the Jew who said, “If you diddle me, do I not come?”

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48 Mapache February 21, 2013 at 11:19 am

Agreed. Perhaps next semester the class could be held in a mosque?

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49 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 11:49 am

It’s actually a nondenominational space. Not Christian at all. But the chaplain gave his full consent. No disrespect was meant.

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50 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 3:53 pm

But may not have meant to be disrespectful, but you unintentionally were by your failure to consider how your actions would be perceived.

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51 Nimadan February 21, 2013 at 4:19 pm

Don’t be naive; these aholes KNOW what they’re doing.

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52 Michelle Hudak February 22, 2013 at 12:23 pm

The Chaplain gave HER full consent. She is a women, and deserves to be addressed as such.

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53 How does it end? February 21, 2013 at 9:07 am

Every day brings a new outrage.Every day brings a story that would have stunned our grandparents. We have women with fake breasts, men who remove the parts God gave them and want a womb, we have rapist and murderers for sports heroes. Has any country or empire stayed intact with such degradation? No, i think the country breaks into 2 or 3 parts.

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54 DudeZXT February 21, 2013 at 9:17 am

or it’s destroyed by fire & brimstone or by a dictatorial government.

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55 etecs February 21, 2013 at 10:05 am

Godless Liberal Academia proving beyond a doubt that they do NOT have a clue when it comes to Morality

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56 Matthew February 21, 2013 at 10:10 am

Yeah learning stuff is so immoral.

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57 jamesben February 21, 2013 at 10:23 am

If you haven’t “learned” some of this “stuff” before getting into college, you have much bigger problems than being a moronic, socialist loving, godless liberal troll..
Snuff yourself., do the world a favor.

58 Bob Jones February 21, 2013 at 10:26 am

Well, learning immoral stuff is immoral. And learning immoral stuff in a church is doubly immoral. So that makes you not only immoral, but an immoral moron.

59 Michael White February 21, 2013 at 10:41 am

Yeah…you probably can’t tell the difference between a ribeye steak and a piece of buffalo dung. It’s called discernment, sparky; something you obviously lack.

60 Cudjoekeyguy February 21, 2013 at 10:42 am

Typical sarcassitic and inane comment coming from an illustirous college liberally educated individual.
You call that learning “Stuff”? Can you really be this stupid?

61 kat February 21, 2013 at 10:56 am

You can’t figure out masterbation by yourself? You need a teacher and a group? Wow. You actually need someone to teach you something that once was second nature to most. Liberals continue with pride the dumbing down of the population, starting with college students. And one wonders why a college degree is worthless these days.

62 PhocusPlease February 21, 2013 at 11:29 am

You’re not shallow are ya?

63 Mark Born February 21, 2013 at 11:40 am

no one said anything of the sort – however there is a time and place for everything.

64 heather February 21, 2013 at 11:42 am

Something interestingly ironic since the left upholds the heinous of its barbarian army islam, and shreds the decency of Christianity–that most muslim women can’t ever achieve any orgasm at all due to clitorectomies, part of islam’s institutionalized hatred of females.

65 astralweeks February 21, 2013 at 11:59 am

Well if you’re so stupid that you need a ‘seminar’ on masturbation, perhaps it’s time your genes were removed from the pool.

66 bloodaxe February 21, 2013 at 12:03 pm

Care to elaborate on that, doofus?

67 Jack Frost February 21, 2013 at 12:12 pm

As if you don’t already know how to jerk your gerkin!

68 DaveLCAC February 21, 2013 at 12:14 pm

So lets more learn about pediophilia or maybe animal cruelty. How about some good learning on methods for gunning down schools. Not all topics need to be openly investigated due to their obvious lack of moral value.

69 dtom2 February 21, 2013 at 1:41 pm

And just what constitutes “stuff” in your mind? Eliciting pleasure from oneself and/or others is instinctive and needs no instruction. Homo Sapiens have been copulating since the dawn of man. Would they have populated the earth to this extent had the process lacked the component of pleasure? The world is teeming with people who experience immeasurable enjoyment in the act yet have never entertained the notion of attending a class on the subject . Actually I feel pity for those who find attending this seminar necessary and think a physician would better be able to help.

70 ChrisGC February 21, 2013 at 2:08 pm

Oh get a grip wouldja? (And I don’t mean on your johnson!)
Do people really need to be taught about this anymore for pity’s sake? It’s in newspapers and magazines and all over the TV! But the outrage here is that now it’s being taught…..IN A CHURCH!!!
That is entirely unacceptable and was done on purpose to degrade religion in general IMO!

71 Bernie February 21, 2013 at 3:04 pm

Bet they wouldn’t hold this event in a mosque.

72 Trisha Doherty February 21, 2013 at 3:17 pm

If you didn’t already know how to masturbate by college, you should have died long ago thru natural selection..nature hates a retard.

73 currentsitguy February 21, 2013 at 3:30 pm

It’s about respect, Matthew. I’m a hardcore Athiest and political Libertarian/Conservative and can’t personally stand any religion, but I am respectful enough of others and their beliefs to not deliberately provoke anger and hostility. Pretty simple, really. You don’t hold masturbation seminars in chapels or churches anymore than you would hold a BBQ Suckling Pig festival in a mosque or synagogue. The whole problem with people today, left and right, is a complete and utter lack of tact, civility, respect for others, and decency.

74 williamunknown February 21, 2013 at 3:54 pm

id not say learning things is immoral. however, perhaps some things have appropriate places to be learnt. is a church really appropriate for this?

75 Dwain Meyer February 21, 2013 at 3:57 pm

Surprised you were able to take your hands away from your junk long enough to post.

76 Me February 21, 2013 at 5:21 pm

“learning” to jack off in a chapel, “Matthew?” Let me guess–you would object to having a pig roast in a masque because that would be insensitive…yet Weinberg’s idea, well, that’s as cool as putting a crucifix in a jar of urine and calling it art, eh?

77 Janet February 21, 2013 at 9:40 pm

depends what you learn.

78 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:31 am

I disagree, mildly. Godless Liberal Academia does indeed have a clue about morality. Trouble is, the clue keeps changing, depending on personal desire, inspiration and the winds of the times. And their morality differs from individual to individual. They can agree upon little except to disagree with what has proven to work for 3,500 years, plus or minus.

We old folks just “don;t get it.” They, the GLA, in their wonderful, self-discovered wisdom understand, much more deeply than anyone ever has and thus they are absolutely right and we are absolutely wrong. (These are the only “absolutes” to which they adhere, by the way.)

This sub-generation discovered sex, morality, reason, Gaia, global warming, latte, and everything else that we, the old, lost generation missed. Aren’t we blessed to have them guide us? Aren’t we? Aren’t we?

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79 Dwain Meyer February 21, 2013 at 3:56 pm

In short, situational morality.

80 jerryomega February 21, 2013 at 5:21 pm

Is this what you pay all that money to the schools for. Remember, this is the education that young people want the tax payer to pay for.

81 wvernon1981 February 21, 2013 at 6:17 pm

I assume truth to be absolute but morality really is largely relative from person to person. There are biological absolutes in morality, such as murder and empathy, but those can be overridden as is evidenced at various times and places like Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union.

The moral system you hold as true probably differs from that of your ancestors as morality evolves with time. If you look at your argument inductively, then you should have adhered to the previous generation’s moral system and they should have adhered to the previous generation’s moral system before that and so on such that we never made any moral progress since the time when humans first began intellectually pondering moral systems.

82 Proteios February 21, 2013 at 7:08 pm

Eloquent and insightful description of what Pope Benedict calls Relativism. Well done.

83 ... for great justice. February 21, 2013 at 7:16 pm

If you look closely at the Left, and read what they write about themselves, what they say and do, you will find many of them are into forms of Wicca and Gaia worship, and some are outright Luciferians.

Their contempt for Christianity and even mention of the name Jesus Christ makes sense when you take that into consideration. Recall how there has been a low-key, but persistent war against Christianity at all levels of government, in the face of the First Amendments’ guarantee of the Free Exercise of Religion.

Military chaplains have to fight to pray in Jesus’s name. “Merry Christmas” has been banished from public mention and employees of big box stores threatened with termination if they wish patrons checking out a Merry Christmas. It’s now been converted into a Generic Holiday, little different from a fictional Festivus.

We need a more robust defense of Christianity, and to take the example of Jesus casting the money changers from the Temple, just as this filth polluted the sanctuary of the chapel with base sex.

84 Steve Daily February 21, 2013 at 8:09 pm

Translation: they don’t have a clue about morality.

85 Htos1 February 22, 2013 at 4:05 am

This old geezer,has work literally flying through space,to represent us to “what’s out there”.

86 benth163 February 22, 2013 at 7:31 am

I supposed that was written with your tongue firmly planted in your cheek?

87 3Dunedain90 February 21, 2013 at 3:12 pm

More than liberals not having a clue, they’re blind to the point of immorality. Next they’ll advocate prostitutes as priestesses for liberal religion, and insist tax payers flip the bill. In short, liberals are basically pagans who do not know it, but their priorities or lifestyles expose it well enough. But there is a wrath to come. And rightly so, for God is holy.

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88 Nimadan February 21, 2013 at 3:15 pm

But that’s not true. In my experience, PC Liberals are intensely moralistic. The issue is the content of their moral code…

1. Their moral code negates physical, social, & economic Reality.

2. Their moral code demonizes males, Whites, Christians, Christianity, America, and Western Civilization.

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89 jerryomega February 21, 2013 at 5:19 pm

Ok. So what’s left?

90 Rob Nema February 21, 2013 at 5:22 pm

Well said Nimadan.

91 junipersnippets February 21, 2013 at 11:14 pm

Then they should hang on tight to their “morals” in Hell. I guarantee you they will find many “moral” people there.

92 That White Guy February 22, 2013 at 2:45 am

As a White, Christian, American Male, attending this college, I can affirm your allegation.

93 Htos1 February 22, 2013 at 4:01 am

1000 “ups”.

94 Russ Ramey February 22, 2013 at 4:45 am

Nailed it, their Amoral code of ultimate narcissism…the little dolts are off on their merry little road to hell

95 Winston Blake March 6, 2013 at 4:23 am

It is religious faggotry…

96 David Stiefel March 7, 2013 at 10:47 am

Hence, why I cannot explain anything to them. It’s like the Indian trying to explain to the cowboy how shooting the squaw accomplishes nothing good, when the cowboy is convinced they’re all “red devils” anyway. Shooting back is more effective, since the pretense of reason is already long gone.

97 frizzy140 February 21, 2013 at 4:59 pm

morality is subjective, and yours in clearly not the majority or quite frankly the norm for those under the age of 30

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98 Scott McLellan February 22, 2013 at 12:02 am

Muslim extremists feel the same way about higher education. Godless, Liberal, Academia.

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99 Stephen Marcus February 22, 2013 at 4:41 am

What is wrong with talking about human sexxuality in a church? The bible talks about sex many times. We Jews believe the day of rest is also a day for making love.Clearly, each religion and then every sect, looks at various passages differently but few honestly look at masterbation as sin anymore.

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100 mersey February 22, 2013 at 8:07 am

The progressives cry about the separation of state and church all the time. You don’t want the church in the state? Well keep your state out of the church!

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101 Guest Guess February 21, 2013 at 10:31 am

There will be a terrible retribution ….God will judge …this country we are being punished into obscurity! God reigns!!!

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102 Jerry Doyle February 21, 2013 at 11:49 am

Bet they don’t have the guts to give this seminar inside a mosque!

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103 jamesben February 21, 2013 at 12:11 pm

Great point, that’s for CERTAIN. Liberal/socialist/Democrat Christian bashers are SCARED sh*tless of Islam…but I’m not.

104 AJ February 21, 2013 at 1:25 pm

This building is used by Islamic students on campus YOU STUPID FUCK

105 griefman February 21, 2013 at 11:56 am

It’s already here. They call it 4 more years.

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106 Stuart Bell February 21, 2013 at 10:57 am

Masturbation…..It does a body good! Have you masturbated today? If I had the money I would put those logos on billboards from coast to coast. Masturbation is the best stress reducer there is. So if you are sitting at your desk, Take a Break, go to the restroom and….Just Do It.

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107 jason February 21, 2013 at 11:13 am

Hey Stuart,
You need to find a woman (or a boyfriend if that’s what you’re into) and stay out of the restrooms.

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108 Stuart Bell February 21, 2013 at 6:15 pm

No I mean in addition to a normal sex life.

109 Mapache February 21, 2013 at 11:18 am

Maybe you need to find a partner?

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110 Stuart Bell February 21, 2013 at 6:16 pm

I mean in addition to a normal sex life.

111 Jerry Doyle February 21, 2013 at 11:52 am

Stuart, you should give Barney Frank’s office a call.

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112 Stuart Bell February 21, 2013 at 6:19 pm

Funk You…

113 Dave February 21, 2013 at 3:01 pm

Why do you think writing something like this is clever?

I think a lot of you liberals have some kind of innate problem with normal people and traditional institutions. Many of you voted for Obama just because you believed it would offend traditional Americans.

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114 Stuart Bell February 21, 2013 at 6:18 pm

Funk You…Go Jerk Off just like you have always done since you learned how to do it.

115 1CatEye February 21, 2013 at 9:59 pm

It did. Sigh.

116 MHS February 22, 2013 at 1:25 pm

Actually, it’s conservatives who have problems with ‘normal’ people–people who do things like have sex and masturbate (which is, in fact, almost everyone).

117 barry_sotero1 February 21, 2013 at 11:18 am

Just the LGBT crowd looking for new converts, Can you imagine the purpose and goal of your life to be teaching other peoples children how to stick fingers in their poosies and ahsses? How noble.

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118 EATitCNN February 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm

and how it’s “okay” to finger your same sex ‘friends’
UGH YOU ARE SO DISGUSTINGLY IMMORAL YOU LEFTIST TRASH
Maybe while they’re at church they can learn about how that will send them STRAIGHT TO HELL

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119 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:10 pm

God made His positive view of fingering very clear, on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

120 Tim February 21, 2013 at 5:22 pm

You’ll be pleased to know that they won’t be sent to hell because it doesn’t exist, and your entire belief system is predicated on the rantings of nomadic middle-eastern tribes in a book that was written before humanity had figured out anything concerning science and the natural world. Have fun living in fairy tale land! By the way, same sex marriage will be not only legal within a few years, but will be so accepted that a hundred years from now, you and everyone like you will be remembered similarly to how we regard anti-abolitionists and people who were against African American/Women’s civil rights. And there’s nothing you can do to stop it. Have fun with a constantly shrinking population of people who think like you do, as religion will be extinct in a few hundred years.

121 Bright Hart February 21, 2013 at 12:17 pm

Dictatorial government is what Obama and his minions aim to impose.

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122 Joe February 21, 2013 at 3:51 pm

Or it is destroyed in fire and brimstone by the wrath of Gods judgement himself just like in similar situations in the Bible.

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123 Michael Sullivan February 21, 2013 at 8:43 pm

Muslims. It will go to the Muslims. I’m sure the Left will love that experience.

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124 Jon Preston February 22, 2013 at 8:19 am

It seems like the college could have found a more appropriate place than this chapel to conduct a female orgasm seminar. Perhaps in some other part of the university. It was probably intentionally chosen to poke and prod the Christian community, however tiny that might be on this campus. In any event, I don’t understand why any Christian would find the subject objectionable. They aren’t condoning adultery are they? Would it be terrible if young Christian women actually found pleasure in their marital sex lives? The subject isn’t “dirty” or “evil” or “sinful” and if you stopped treating it that way you might discover more young Christians. Automatically decrying sexuality as sinful is absurd. I’m a Christian and I assure you that it isn’t.

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125 MHS February 22, 2013 at 1:25 pm

I agree.

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126 A glimpse February 21, 2013 at 9:30 am

Who God wants to destroy, he first makes them crazy.

This adage is now being employed by the Good Lord. You are right, splintering of the nation by region is soon to follow.

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127 Good February 21, 2013 at 9:47 am

Yes, but that’s only because grandma and grandpa had a big, deep closet to hide their homosexual tastes. I say God bless these young people for bringing their sexuality out into the open!

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128 Michael Bingham February 21, 2013 at 9:48 am

And I say you and fools like you know nothing about God because there is now way he will bless this kind of mocking of His house and name.

I pity people like you.

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129 whattim February 21, 2013 at 2:41 pm

so, if God would not bless anything like this, why does he bless priests who molest little boys? how about the people who protect the priests. you support people who rape kids, you must be proud

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130 Drew102 February 21, 2013 at 3:27 pm

why do you feel guilty? god blessed you for all those things you must be proud. no faith no honor that’s you

131 D John February 21, 2013 at 5:21 pm

He blessed Judas as an apostle but yet was betrayed and gave everything. Therefore 8% of the original apostles were the worst of sinners, yet Christians and Catholics still believe and look up to the other 92% of the apostles and their successers, his priests of the Roman Catholic Church.

132 The emperor has no clothes February 22, 2013 at 6:35 am

And HOW does God bless these people? Please explain that.

133 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 10:05 am

You got weird grandparents bub. Please don’t lot mine together with yours.

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134 Stuart L.Bell February 21, 2013 at 10:50 am

Masturbation….It does a Body Good! Have you Masturbated Today? If I had the $ I would rent billboards from coast to coast and put those logos on them. Masturbation is on of the best stress relievers there is. So if you are sitting at your desk, take a break, go to the bathroom and do it. It feels so good and it is so good for you.

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135 jason February 21, 2013 at 11:15 am

Only fruitcakes masturbate in public bathrooms

136 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:11 pm

When my grandma achieves orgasm, she shouts “BINGO!”

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137 Bob Jones February 21, 2013 at 10:29 am

Sick freak.

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138 rambo555 February 21, 2013 at 10:30 am

You must be a homosexual to think the majority of people are like you. Research has proven that homosexuality is limited to a small portion of the population of this world. Homosexuals like you make yourself feel better by implying your part of a bigger group. No one really cares what you do in the privacy of your own home, we care about you trying to change everyone’s beliefs using lies and liberal tactics like you have in the previous emails. Be gay, who gives a crap! Just stop being a liberal pansy trying to change the core beliefs of this country!

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139 Josh February 22, 2013 at 8:57 am

Thinking the majority of people are like you…

Funny how bigots who think like you are subject to that exact delusion.

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140 Michael White February 21, 2013 at 10:35 am

Don’t validate your own twisted desires by projecting them onto others. If you’re “in the closet,” please do us all a favor and have somebody brick over the door.

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141 Ran Kelvin February 21, 2013 at 10:37 am

You surely have heard the term, “Useful idiots”? Try at least to not make it easy for those that wish to destroy America.

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142 Cudjoekeyguy February 21, 2013 at 10:53 am

So what if your Grandparents were FREAKS and you got some of that? I don’t care. I don’t care if these “students” are into homosexuality and beastiality for you too, but do not bring God into your inane reply.

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143 kat February 21, 2013 at 10:59 am

I’m pretty sure masterbation has been around from the beginning of man. Most people could figure it out themselves though — didn’t need to go to college and take a class on it!

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144 Izaak Boyd February 21, 2013 at 11:53 am

Why????????????????? Why bring ones sexuality out into the open? Your lot are moral fools! And gross!!!!! Sex and sexuality are gifts, but i don’t want to see, hear, or know anything about the sexuality of all the homosexuals flaunting their nasty bits in public. What a joke!!!!

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145 Oscar Demolski February 21, 2013 at 9:53 am

“Every day brings a new outrage.Every day brings a story that would have stunned our grandparents. ”
And leftists mock those of us who say things like gay marriage will lead to people being able to marry their little brother or some other such perversion.
Things that were taboo just a generation ago are now the norm today, but liebrals don’t pay any attention at all to the past and refuse to learn from it.

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146 Hominid February 21, 2013 at 11:30 am

For Libs, yesterday’s psychopathologies are today’s public policies.

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147 Ran Kelvin February 21, 2013 at 10:35 am

With the election of obama, they have lost patience with waiting us out, with waiting for those of us that know better and are now seniors, to die out. We can see it with the demonization of our Traditional American culture. This blasphemy of defiling a place of worship is an example of satan’s workers busy at it. Today we find out that a company in Minn was given a contract to produce gun targets for the feds that depict pregnant women, children and seniors as targets! Yes that is right, we are now the targets for our own police forces to practice on. The Department of Homeland Security has contracted with Law Enforcement Targets, inc. for two million dollars worth of shooting targets that feature such names as “old woman, pregnant woman and little brother”. The company, LET, inc has verified this information.

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148 Vorenious February 21, 2013 at 11:31 am

I would be one of the first to take my weapons to the God fearing, Constitutional believing portion.

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149 Drew102 February 21, 2013 at 11:35 am

It’s the Roman Empire repeating history it’s
not too late but it will be late soon. My granddad would have been locking and
loading by now, and their generation would have been rallying in the streets to
take back what is their god given rights. The government has remove most of our
parts that god gave us, it’s time to grow them back.

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150 whattim February 21, 2013 at 2:40 pm

God did not give you any rights,

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151 Drew102 February 21, 2013 at 2:56 pm

You must have removed your god given parts you girly boy you :-}

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152 whattim February 21, 2013 at 3:01 pm

sorry Drewless, but God gave us life, no rights. If he gave us rights how about the people starving in Africa? they don’t have the same rights? you are just a nut job who needs to be part of a group that agrees.so sorry you have no brain. son!

153 Drew102 February 21, 2013 at 3:54 pm

That because your godless and have no morals you don’t believe in the Declaration of Independence? I will go back to that group known as our founding fathers. Founding Fathers of the United States believed in God and for the most part we’re strongly religious men with strong beliefs in entitlements bestowed by God upon men, and that these entitlements were so important that no earthly power can rightfully deny them. Therefore, no Government can deny these rights. So if I’m a nut job what does that make you? You better go back to your basement after sucking on your mommy’s tits. Unless your sucking on something else
for you nourishment.

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154 dtom2 February 21, 2013 at 1:15 pm

If the Lord God almighty doesn’t soon rain down His wrath upon this perverted culture he will owe an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah.

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155 middleofthemap1234 February 21, 2013 at 3:09 pm

Troll

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156 Lloyd__Christmas February 21, 2013 at 4:01 pm

I find it ironic that we can pray in schools, but we can tell kids what is and what is not a sin. I have two kids who attend this school… they will not be returning next year.

Has anyone started to email the administration about this? It sure would be nice to get a couple hundred people sending complaints and shutting down their email server.

This school always promotes homosexuality, so I guess it shouldn’t surprise me that they would stoop to this. You can have a Gay March, but you can’t have a March to support straight students or any other things that are not of liberal orientation.

- Lloyd

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157 7thFleetVet February 21, 2013 at 4:03 pm

Lloyd, did you mean to say that we can’t pray in schools?

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158 Rocky Mountain February 21, 2013 at 4:38 pm

Stunned our grandparents? This stuns me! My grandparents probably would’ve keeled over and died.

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159 cleve_blakemore February 21, 2013 at 10:29 pm

I think the country get vaporized by the Chinese and the radioactive soil spaded over so nobody even knows there was a country there a hundred years from now. That is normally how God deals with apostate nations.

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160 UnCL3 February 21, 2013 at 11:30 pm

yes, indeed…EVERY DAY brings new outrage. It’s disgusting.

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161 Scott McLellan February 22, 2013 at 1:25 pm

Don’t forget circumcision!

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162 njersey5389 February 22, 2013 at 2:57 pm

So true. How this Country has changed over such a short period of time is amazing. We used to have the most disciplined, law-abiding and conservatively moral society on Earth. What is happening is a tragedy.

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163 cultish February 26, 2013 at 8:01 pm

We will all be better off without your “god” and all that goes with it. All the shame and hatred.

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164 Noah March 14, 2013 at 4:59 pm

Sounds a lot better than religiously motivated dictatorships, genocide, slavery, and genital mutilation. I agree. I don’t understand plastic surgery, sex changes, and showering people with fame and money because they can throw a ball. I’m not going to kill them all just to justify religious and political delusions though. When you decide to separate people, judge people, and control people, the final and ultimate solution is always genocide and murder. Governments and countries change and fall all the time, but it’s people remain, and every one of them has the right to pursue happiness as they see it, as long as it doesn’t infringe on another’s.

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165 Janet February 21, 2013 at 9:08 am

More education in America; no wonder we are in terrible shape. I’m sure God is not too happy with them.

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166 Matthew February 21, 2013 at 9:45 am

Really? You’re SURE God is not to happy with them? What IS God’s official stance on g-spot stimulation? Get it if you got it or an ‘white males only’ kind of thing?

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167 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 9:55 am

God’s stance on modesty is well documented.

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168 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 10:12 am

The first thing God created was light. That freaky exhibitionist wanted us to see EVERYTHING.

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169 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 10:19 am

True– until Eve and Adam committed the only sin that God told them not to do. Then they saw their nakedness, were ashamed, covered themselves, and hid from God.

Spin may work on your indoctrinated friends but if there is a God, I suspect it won’t work on him. You will find out one way or the other.

170 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 10:57 am

No, He ALLOWED us to see everything. Because he gave us free will. Just like the rules of baseball allow you to steal third base when there is one out and no one on first or third. But it should not be done “unwisely.”

171 Janet February 21, 2013 at 10:47 am

Well, I’m sure he isn’t too happy with the stupidity in education today; how dumb can people be. People need to know how to live, not about something that is private.

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172 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 10:53 am

God’s stance on g-spot stimulation is that it is reserved for the privacy and sanctity of holy matrimony — marriage — alone, and the sexual act is for the procreation of children and to further bond the husband and wife.

And God’s stance on human communication is that it is a blessing to be able to communicate with other souls and should be done for his glory and his purposes. And with mutual respect. Not necessarily what you seem to do.

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173 Commieobamie February 21, 2013 at 9:12 am

Why not in an islamo mosque? islamophobic?

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174 akabillybob February 21, 2013 at 9:18 am

The Muslims would have a slaughter-fest with all the infidels. I doubt they would even try to convert these sorts. And their way is convert or die.

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175 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:22 am

Use first person.

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176 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 9:33 am

pointless really. With Moslems there is no masturbation. Why would you need to masturbate in the nation of Islam? Not like there is a shortage of woman when you’ve got 9 year old girls to get yer “rocks off” on.
I mean maybe they masturbate thinking about the poor guy down the street with 5 little girls and a dying goat and bills to pay but no source of income until the guy down the rubble strewn street finishes masturbating and runs to the Atm to pick up funds to purchase a young bride from the poor farmer up the lane. Of course to go with his 6 other wives.

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177 heather February 21, 2013 at 12:21 pm

And muslim womens’ parts are cut off so they can’t orgasm anyway.

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178 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 9:58 am

Because lie-berals are cowards at heart, running from the very consequences of their own choices. When the nation collapses and there is violence, there will be a lot of dead Prius owners.

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179 heather February 21, 2013 at 11:54 am

Islam is the barbarian army of the left; so the left defends the heinous of islam while shredding the decency of Christianity, which obstructs their goal of totalitarianism.

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180 mojomitchman February 21, 2013 at 9:12 am

The Bible has told us of worse times to come. So what’s to get excited about here?….(no pun intended). The Word of God is coming true.

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181 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:22 am

Yes it is. Learn about it. Read scripture. Start with the Book of John. Read Matthew, chapters 5-7. Then meditate on it for a few years before you condemn others.

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182 Syd Barrett February 21, 2013 at 9:13 am

Notice the ” educators ” last names , Miller and Weinberg. They knew exactly what they were doing.

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183 Good February 21, 2013 at 9:40 am

oh look, we have an bigoted piece of garbage here!

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184 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 10:13 am

How dare a Jew take center stage in a Catholic church? What would Jesus think?

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185 rambo555 February 21, 2013 at 10:25 am

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you “Good”.

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186 fastgen1 February 21, 2013 at 9:13 am

It is the obammy way..the closer to Sodom we get the better he likes it. It’s the homosexual in him coming out.

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187 Rocky February 21, 2013 at 9:34 am

There must be some truth to the rumors of Obama and “Reggie Love”!! He is so quick to defend the homosexuals isn’t he? Hmmmm..

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188 Good February 21, 2013 at 9:45 am

Ah, there goes “Rocky” attacking other people’s manhood again. Anyone who goes around yelling at the “homosexuals” and caling himself “Rocky” raises red (or should I say pink) flags for me!

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189 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:20 am

You sound like a freshman, devoid of logic and reason.

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190 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:38 pm

Most people are completely unaware of Obama’s hidden homosexuality. It takes someone who is very, very attuned to gay feelings to spot it. I thank Fastgen and Rocky for being brave enough to share their expertise in queer vibrations.

191 Charles Wesley Bird February 21, 2013 at 10:00 am

Google Obama Mens Club Chicago.

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192 rex February 21, 2013 at 9:13 am

This is truly disgusting, absolutely no respect for the church, everyone in attendance just got there go straight to hell card.

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193 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 10:28 am

I can see their twisted souls standing in front of St. Peter now…
Bu…bu… But it’s Bush’s fault! Heaven is Racist! Hater!

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194 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:30 pm

Wow, that image is even more vivid than the mundane sexual fantasies I pleasure myself to. You are a freaky dude!

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195 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 1:48 pm

Freaky went out of style with bellbottoms in the 70′s.

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196 RexIsaTwat February 21, 2013 at 7:31 pm

You’re a sanctimonious twat.

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197 rex February 21, 2013 at 8:49 pm

Galatians 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

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198 Allegheny Student February 23, 2013 at 12:11 pm

Including the several students and the adult representative of one of the college’s Christian groups who attended to see what it was about? Not everyone who went there agreed with everything that was said–and God still loves each and every one of those people as much as He happens to love YOU.

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199 Elliot Arclight February 21, 2013 at 9:14 am

I wonder what the Catholic chaplain has to say about this misuse of a house of God? I’m sure he would not have such a cavalier attitude… I wonder if there will be some sort of “cleansing” prior to another Mass being celebrated there….? This, in a way, reminds me of the gospel story of the money changers in the temple. Remember what Jesus did to them?

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200 Good February 21, 2013 at 9:33 am

Since when has the clergy in the Catholic church shown reservations about using the church as a sexual playground? At least these college students are adult and consenting participants!

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201 Charles February 21, 2013 at 9:58 am

Remember Good. It’s the perverted men whom used the Church as a vehicle to abuse children. The Church is a divine, living, breathing body that supersedes the heinous acts these men committed.The Church is at fault for covering up. There are an overwhelming amount of good people within the Church doing God’s work that you will never here about. That doesn’t make the nightly news.

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202 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:15 am

I pray that you attain wisdom, maturity and some respect for others.

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203 Good February 21, 2013 at 9:38 am

Ha, yeah right! Since when does the Catholic clergy have a problem with using the church as a sexual playground?

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204 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 9:59 am

More lie-beral school teachers have abused children than catholic priests.

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205 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:14 am

You’re right. The highest rate of child molestation (and cover up) is found in the public school teaching.

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206 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:28 pm

I heard the highest rate is among message board posters.

207 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 9:14 am

besides all the obvious reasons this is wrong, I have only one suggestion that should seem quite obvious.
Please wash hands before returning to life.

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208 Max February 21, 2013 at 9:14 am

This event mocks the house of God which should be a place of worship and not a den of iniquity.

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209 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:18 am

Iniquity resides in the individual heart, not in a consecrated house of worship. You bring iniquity in; It does not reside there.

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210 thegoldman February 21, 2013 at 9:15 am

No class…

Some lines you just don’t cross…

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211 longliveUSA February 21, 2013 at 9:17 am

Why?

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212 Yhadda February 21, 2013 at 9:18 am

Jesus was tortured, died and shed His blood, and rose again. He can help emotionally (and even physically) heal STD’s, and the common ills that we face.

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213 Wes Stephens February 21, 2013 at 9:20 am

First the left kicked God out of the schools. Now I guess they’re going after the churches. Sad.

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214 Allegheny Student February 23, 2013 at 12:13 pm

As a student on campus, the general consensus is that they tried to get the auditorium, but it was already booked for that day. The chapel is the next biggest space on campus. That’s it.

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215 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 9:20 am

Dear lord, give me the strength to fit my whole fist in my vagina.Amen.

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216 Juan Outtamany February 21, 2013 at 9:22 am

let me know if you find my class ring

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217 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 10:15 am

Why do you think they call it the Hole-y Bible?

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218 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 10:15 am

Plagiarizer would be a good word for you. You can use all day if you want.

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219 AV1RICKSTER February 21, 2013 at 9:23 am

our federal TAX dollars at work once again

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220 Juan Outtamany February 21, 2013 at 9:24 am

BOHICA?

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221 heather February 21, 2013 at 9:24 am

1963 Congressional Record: Communist Manifesto mission is to destroy Christianity

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222 Rocky February 21, 2013 at 9:31 am

Did you hear this am that Obama is pushing the California courts to overturn the gay marriage ban? Of course Obama has been known to practice the “gay” lifestyle himself, probably still does. So he is looking out for his own. Unfortunately to many people think like the Abomination in the White House.

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223 sgfan February 21, 2013 at 9:24 am

What is so sad is, there’s no shame anymore. How could this be actually taught as an option and then to teach it in a church, the house of God, is just too much. God will NOT allow this much longer. Judgment begins in the house of God and believe me, it will happen. However, fear of judgment never brings about changes that God would desire. Only a deep and abiding love for Him will compel us to be obedient to His commands. I pray that happens before it’s too late.

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224 Hawkeye2000 February 21, 2013 at 9:25 am

So who doesn’t jerk off ?
Muslims are jerkoffs but they too jerk off.

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225 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 10:43 am

No… I’m pretty sure they’ve always got a 9 year old or goat nearby.

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226 Brian Dillon February 21, 2013 at 9:25 am

If liberals had any guts whatsoever, they would have hosted this event in a Mosque. But we all know that liberals are cowards.

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227 BrianDillonIsAnIdiot February 21, 2013 at 7:30 pm

Liberals are definitely shaking in their boots now that internet tough guy Brian Dillon is on the scene. Nothing gets past this genius.

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228 Juan Outtamany February 21, 2013 at 9:25 am

you know you have stupid kids if you have to teach them to ‘Pound the Pope”

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229 Good February 21, 2013 at 9:26 am

Good for them!

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230 Rocky February 21, 2013 at 9:27 am

You are a “sicko” !! Not “good”.

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231 Good February 21, 2013 at 9:30 am

My goodness, someone has some sexuality issues! Rocky sounds “all soft” to me!

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232 Jay Hollabeck February 21, 2013 at 9:32 am

no Rocky’s right, you are not right in the head there are you

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233 doesntmatter February 21, 2013 at 9:27 am

The Lord gives us a new day to repent from wickedness and turn to Him so that we will know the glory of His mercy. Pray for them that they will know God and will praise His name for all to see. It’s never too late. As long as He gives all of us one more day, we can live it in repentance and loving Him and loving others. That’s the only thing He has charged us to do. Lord have mercy on us.

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234 J W Majors Majors February 21, 2013 at 10:22 am

Good heart but delusional. Jeremiah describes what is coming for this Nation in chapter 15.The wicked want a fight with God and a fight they shall have.

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235 doesntmatter February 21, 2013 at 10:45 am

Everyday is a new day. The Lord will come again and when he does He will bring destruction and judgement with Him. Unless we as a nation turn from our wickedness, we will be destroyed and live an eternity separated from God but as long as we have today, there is hope for all.

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236 heather February 21, 2013 at 9:28 am

This is the left’s stated mission to destroy Christianity.
They defend the heinous in islam while shredding the decency of Christianity since islam is their barbarian army.

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237 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 10:35 am

The left attacks Christianity because in the western world, it will be the one thing that stops them from gaining totalitarian control of society.
You see, if your rights come from your creator (God) they cannot be taken away– this limits leftist power.
Get rid of God, and now man’s rights aren’t so inalienable. Whatever the Government giveth, the Government can take way. Government IS GOD to the leftist, and government doesn’t like competition.

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238 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:16 am

Well said.

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239 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:54 am

Every totalitarian regime in history has killed priests and destroyed churches. For leftists, though, anything done “for The People” is good. Anything.

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240 Irving Canfield February 21, 2013 at 9:28 am

Desecration of a holy place is evil.

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241 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 10:32 am

And that is precisely why they do it. They are the willing agents of evil on earth.

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242 The_MaD_HaCkER February 21, 2013 at 9:28 am

I know hookers who show a certain amount of decorum in church. I guess that they are not collage educated. They have higher standards. ;(

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243 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 10:31 am

College “education” is about indoctrination into the leftist atheist “group think”. Critical thinking is just a mirage as their own dogma forbids questioning politically correct assumptions.
In short– educated idiots are still idiots.

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244 TexCassidy February 21, 2013 at 9:29 am

Maybe Chaplain Jane, of a “non-denominational” christian church, doesn’t have much respect for traditional Christian denominations. If she is a sensitive and caring person, maybe if others contact her and let her know how they feel hurt, she’ll learn there are other sensibilities other than her own, and she’ll think twice before poking others in the eye who think differently than she does.

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245 Luxomni February 21, 2013 at 9:31 am

I tell you today’s college students aren’t as bright as they used to be. We could figure out masturbation without a seminar.

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246 Jay Hollabeck February 21, 2013 at 9:31 am

why? just why?, I don’t understand why they chose a church..it’s sick and wrong, shame on them. These kids are listening to these weirdo’s, that’s evil what they did, parents please research the college you send your kids to..I know one now that will never ever be an option. Thanks for posting this and warning us these vile schools.

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247 Sarah February 21, 2013 at 4:32 pm

…because it was one of the 3 large spaces available on campus, of which the other two were booked. Ford chapel is a non-denominational space where classes and other activities are held. “I <3 female orgasm" was supposed to be the hook for people to come, but it was also about having healthy relationships as well. Many of the religious groups and the chaplain at the school were contacted to make sure this was okay and not offensive.

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248 Anthony B February 21, 2013 at 9:31 am

Filthy Deranged Liberals.

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249 HarryObrian February 21, 2013 at 9:31 am

So now kids are too stupid to know about self-satisfaction to the point where socialist over-priced colleges have to teach them??? Sheesh, even people living in 3rd world countries in grass huts know more about the subject…
Is Van Jones teaching the fisting classes as well??
Well, I guess if you can’t get a job after spending 100k on a useless diploma then you can lie around beating it all day.

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250 mrcyberdoc February 21, 2013 at 9:32 am

Not much different than in OT times. And look how God punished those people. We too will feel His judgement. It’s just a matter of time. Meanwhile, welcome to Sodom and Gomorrah!

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251 Silenced February 21, 2013 at 9:32 am

Wow. Not one person could be found who thought that a church is an inappropriate setting for this. That is either a comment on the poor reporting or the poor state of the spiritual life of the people at the college.

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252 blancojoe February 21, 2013 at 9:32 am

“Liberal Arts” college begins to sum it up. Universities have been slowly and deliberately highjacked by the extreme Left for many decades. Their filth continues to rise and become much more visible as of these last years. It will continue and this world will continue to become a very cold place morally, just as the Bible states.

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253 hot! February 21, 2013 at 9:35 am

Where do I sign up? This is my kinda church!

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254 Rocky February 21, 2013 at 9:35 am

I repeat — you are a “sicko” not “good”. Change your name to “Sicko” creep.

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255 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:00 pm

Looks like Rocky enjoys a little roleplay.

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256 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 10:15 pm
257 OrlandoRican February 21, 2013 at 9:35 am

Keep lowering the bar.

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258 Ted Huss February 21, 2013 at 9:35 am

Teaching things people find out by themselves, or by reading a book. This crap is done to create “experts”. If there are that many young people who are truly ignorant about sex by their early 20′s (in this hypersexualized society), it’s just a statement about the failures of parents and intellectual sloth.

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259 MC February 21, 2013 at 9:36 am

Let your voice be heard! Time to use liberal’s tactics against liberals. Make a phone call…write an email…be professional but be DIRECT and UNAPPOLOGETIC for your BELIEFS!

Linda DeMeritt
Dean
Allegheny College
Bentley Hall #117, Box 18
520 North Main Street
Meadville, PA 16335
phone: (814) 332-3393
fax: (814) 332-2796
[email protected]

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260 David Dunlap February 21, 2013 at 9:38 am

Do these people not understand what an “apostasy” is? God forgive them their ignorance!

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261 anonymous February 21, 2013 at 9:39 am

“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings” (2 Tim 4:3).

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262 mucholderguy February 21, 2013 at 9:39 am

Young people thinking about sex! Young people learning about sex! Young people having sex! I’m shocked, let me tell you. Shocked! And it’s all the fault of that socialist Muslim in the White House! He’s going to put in that Sharia law and raise my taxes!

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263 Jack Levitt February 21, 2013 at 9:39 am

Next week: How to find your heroin vein.

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264 PittsburghTiger February 21, 2013 at 9:39 am

I’m sure Alleghney College would have NO PROBLEM holding this event in a Muslim Mosque, right?

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265 Detroit Native February 21, 2013 at 9:39 am

Guess where I WON’T be sending my kids to college!!!

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266 Matthew February 21, 2013 at 9:47 am

Good call. What can you learn at school that they don’t have on the streets of Detroit. A+ parenting.

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267 Charles Wesley Bird February 21, 2013 at 10:06 am

Wayne State.

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268 Noel Granite February 21, 2013 at 9:40 am

Tell me when these brave feminists hold this lecture/course in a Mosque.

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269 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 9:42 am

It really is about the ladies isn’t now?

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270 Steve Xerakis February 21, 2013 at 9:41 am

Can you do this under law: yes. Is it within the bounds of the Constitution yes, but as always Freedom takes responsibility, good taste and yes (dare I say) even class….these are things that the liberal garbage “running the culture” today and in the White House do not have. The Founders continue to spin in their graves. Utterly pathetic!

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271 Kummin February 21, 2013 at 9:43 am

Don’t these people have ANY shame?

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272 JnnyBGood February 21, 2013 at 9:43 am

face palm, level 9000! LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!

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273 Jay Hollabeck February 21, 2013 at 9:43 am

speak up everyone, go to Allegheny college website and send them a message telling them how you feel, flood their servers, call their office! seriously you can’t let people like this get away with it!..they are molding our children’s minds with this garbage and creating a future of idiotic disrespecting liberal little moron’s who will one day have children who will in turn pass on that stupidity!

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274 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 9:45 am

besides all the obvious reasons this is wrong, I have only one suggestion that should seem quite obvious.
Please wash hands before returning to life.

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275 Kummin February 21, 2013 at 9:45 am

God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. LOL, sorry a bit off-topic but I just had to get that in!

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276 Hobbes February 21, 2013 at 9:45 am

This is really evil. The left knows no limits when it comes to desecrating the beliefs of those who do not agree with them.

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277 SoCalJeanne February 21, 2013 at 9:46 am

Progressive Colleges and the lame stream media, the death of our culture.

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278 BooBoo February 21, 2013 at 9:46 am

“Marshall Miller and Kate Weinberg”… two Joos with no respect for other religions! No wonder the world loves the Jews! They just aren’t happy unless they’re sticking their marxist beliefs into everyone else’s life.

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279 Royce Tuckness February 21, 2013 at 9:46 am

This goes beyond religion and exposes the Sick Mind of the Liberal. Maybe some TV and radio hosts are right… Liberalism is a Mental Disease.

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280 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 9:54 am

When applied this way it starts to become something a bit more than a mental disorder.

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281 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:24 am

History tells us that leftists are capable of anything in the name of “The People”, even murder. So, any immoral act should not surprise us.

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282 Vexious February 21, 2013 at 9:46 am

Seems rather sick to me. They couldn’t find a better site for this sort of thing?

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283 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:36 am

According to their facebook page, they’re having lectures on other topics in a building called the Campus Center. So, they obviously did this as an intentional affront to Christians.

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284 AJ February 21, 2013 at 2:31 pm

wrong again, dumbass.

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285 James Payne February 21, 2013 at 9:46 am

I hope NO ONE attends religious services there anymore. If THIS is how they want to show respect for someone’s religion, then that House of God should be shut down.

MORE, that Chaplin should be fired, IMO.

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286 Charles Wesley Bird February 21, 2013 at 10:06 am

Take your Divine Love to Town, kids.

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287 mary kile February 21, 2013 at 10:24 am

Eeewww, does anyone want to sit on those pews? There are some things that are just too ridiculous to make sense of. Kate Weinberg has spoken of her desire to be a mermaid. Oh to have one of those fancy degrees that you can’t get a job, so you spin and come up with this. The idiots are those that pay for worthless “seminars” and the parents that fund them.

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288 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 10:49 am

Well, technically, most students get loans… and now that the government has taken over the backing of those loans (and ignores default from those who work for the government)– it’s very likely that you and I are funding them.

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289 hihoze February 21, 2013 at 9:48 am

Just as every cop is a criminal…. And all the sinners saints….
As heads is tails…. Just call me Lucifer…Cause I’m in need of some restraint

Pleased to meet you. Hope you guessed my name…But what’s puzzling you…Is the nature of my game.

We are all “extras” living in a carefully censored and controlled “Truman Show” and every year more uninformed extras are graduated from our colleges. With each graduation, The Great Fall of America continues….

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290 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 9:51 am

pleased to meet you.

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291 Jay Hollabeck February 21, 2013 at 9:49 am

speak up! let them know how you feel about this!! https://www.facebook.com/alleghenycollege?ref=ts&fref=ts

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292 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:34 am

Done

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293 Joe Dutra February 21, 2013 at 9:51 am

Disgusting liberals.

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294 EnabledVet February 21, 2013 at 9:52 am

During the French revolution, the leaders of the revolution placed a prostitute on the alter of Notre Dame, symbolizing the overthrow of the old order of religion and the new era of enlightment. Many ascribe this as a plot of the Bavarian Illuminati, and the church didn’t endear itself to the populations of Europe at the time, or now, for that matter.
But, these intellectuals are deliberately rubbing this filth in the faces of the faithful, whatever the faith, to ensure you are humiliated into following their cause. The Uberman, the perfect human, the trans-humanism movement, where the masses will be destroyed to enabled the elite to control the few left, to take care of their earthly needs.
Take a look a the Georgia Guidestones and research their benefactors, and you can soon picture Bill Gates and Ted Turner sponsoring events like this at every college in the US.

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295 Matthew February 21, 2013 at 9:55 am

Your an idiot. It was a seminar about jerking off. Its not filth or conspiracy, its ages 17-23.

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296 EnabledVet February 21, 2013 at 10:31 am

Get them while they’re young.

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297 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 10:40 am

FAIL:
Logical Fallacy: Attacking the messenger. I bet you see yourself as an educated, above average, superior type– yet you can’t even argue in an intelligent matter.
DOUBLE FAIL:
Oh.. and “your” is possessive… “you’re” is a contraction for “you are an idiot”.
Pretty embarrassing… Hope you find value in those College loans…

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298 LibtardedIsRetarded February 21, 2013 at 7:36 pm

Fuck you. How’s that for a logical fallacy?

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299 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 7:46 pm

Poor little fool… ran out of reason pretty quick.

300 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 8:24 pm

Haha… Poor baby was so embarrassed by his imbecilic post that he had to go and create a new account to hurl obscenities! Enjoy those student loans loser!

301 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:43 am

“The (your) loud laugh bespeaks the vacant mind.”

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302 Charles Wesley Bird February 21, 2013 at 9:52 am

Better take your church attendance needs into town, students. The ones on campus are not the real deal.

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303 Charles Wesley Bird February 21, 2013 at 9:55 am

I personally recommend this one as the real thing. You will not be shortchanged. United Pentecostal Church, 881 Porter Street, Meadville. Phone 333-1164.

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304 Matthew February 21, 2013 at 9:52 am

These students are treating this Christian Church like a CATHOLIC church. Except that no laws were broken. No actual sex occurred. People were of legal age. No one covered it up. And straight sex was included. BUT STILL!

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305 Patricia Parke February 21, 2013 at 9:56 am

The most disturbing part of this story is that the Chaplain approves.

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306 Hypno Jive February 21, 2013 at 10:26 am

Not surprising since half the priests today are homosexual,Liberal Democrats

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307 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:48 am

You defame a great many good, holy priests with a comment like this. Your statistics are self-made and calumnous.

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308 RussinOR February 21, 2013 at 9:56 am

Headline you’ll never see in the US: College Hosts Sex, Masturbation Tutorial – Inside A Mosque

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309 AJ February 21, 2013 at 2:50 pm

It’s NOT A CHURCH, DUMBFUCK! It’s as much a mosque as it is a church, in fact, Islamic students use Ford Chapel as well.

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310 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:54 pm

I think we all understand what RussinOR means when he says “mosque”. And, he’s right. When one soldier out of thousands desecrates a Koran, you liberals are in lockstep with the muslims in condemning him; but when Christians get offended, you call them prudes, etc.

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311 AJ February 21, 2013 at 3:10 pm

I think anyone who attacks someone else’s religion is an ass. I believe it should be kept to oneself. Which is why making this an ‘attack on Christianity’ is so frustrating, because it is not a christian building, nor is it a Christian campus. And as per the Koran, I do believe that having images of that out while we were trying to justify a war as a war on terrorism, not a war on Islam, wasn’t exactly smart.

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312 Allegheny Student February 23, 2013 at 12:40 pm

NOT AGAIN. There is no mosque in the general area, and the college did not host it! It was an event organized by students! The only reason they picked the chapel was because the auditorium was FULL. They neede a larger venue and this was all they had. The chaplain OK’d it because they lied to her about what was actually going to take place there. What she heard was a watered-down version that had no mention of masturbation at all. Also, the President said in a statement that he wished the event had been hosted somewhere else.

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313 Michael Bingham February 21, 2013 at 9:56 am

I no longer pray for God’s mercy on this country. I now pray for his wrath and judgement on those who mock him.

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314 johnd February 21, 2013 at 9:58 am

Looks to me like some slick “Con Artists” duped student union representatives to host a seminar by which they could titilate the interest of young inexperienced students in order to sell their books. The choice of the church for the meeting was to present the subject matter with a “HALO” of a risque, atmosphere. Administrators who were old enough to perceive this should have exercised adult judgement and moved the event to a less damaging environment.

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315 J W Majors Majors February 21, 2013 at 9:58 am

Ha,Ha. If this does not prove this corrupt Nation has been turned over to a reprobate mind,nothing will.God bless America. Ha,Ha.

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316 TroyGale February 21, 2013 at 10:00 am

Yes, (sarc on) today’s youth are so much better educated than we were, I guess none of we old folks ever learned what we needed to know about sex. (sarc off)
Shallow and vain fools who probably ought not be in college if they are too stupid to need help on sex.

If I had a college age child, I’d encourage them to go into the Military, college seems a waste.

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317 saints2060 February 21, 2013 at 10:00 am

These people has absolutely no concept of respect or decency. Just the stunning callousness .It really is beyond words to describe

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318 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 10:00 am

Yep. Funny thing about interpretation on this nice ladies part. I wonder if she thinks that that Onan guy from the bible was thinking about his smooth, shinny, horny ‘rock’ when he ejaculated. You see, that way he wouldn’t be committing adultery or nuthin’

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319 badabing February 21, 2013 at 10:02 am

“in the last days, perilous times shall come. Men( and women) shall be lovers of themselves…….” I think we’re there., next time , go to a Mosque and play with yourself

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320 Matthew February 21, 2013 at 10:15 am

“Here Jimmy, bite this pencil and hold on to that pew . . . ” -Some Priest to an Alter Boy. We’ve been there for a while, Padre.

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321 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 10:47 am

More children have been molested by their public school teachers and politicians than Priests… Yet they make excuses for 1/2 of the (women) teachers, and the others rarely get more than a passing mention on local news. Perception may be your reality, but it may not be the truth.

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322 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:15 am

Why do you think comments like this are funny Matthew? Someone gave you the Biblical name. Would they appreciate your sense of humor?

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323 EM February 22, 2013 at 12:05 pm

There is no excuse for child molestation – no matter what the person’s title happens to be – keep all homos away from kids.

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324 A Mockery February 21, 2013 at 10:03 am

Why a church??? Was every other building somehow occupied? Given the target audience, it’s doubtful that this was a course intended for married couples – even then it’s best in a individual couple or single sex setting for modesty sake. God created sex and so, as He intended it, there is no shame. But this is a slap in the face of His design for the marriage bed.

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325 Chriss Markey February 21, 2013 at 10:03 am

why – it’s – an – obomination

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326 Rich Lehmann February 21, 2013 at 10:03 am

That is so disrespectful. They would never have done it in a synagog wouldnt have the guts to try it in a mosque. But Christians are immediately dismissed by the so called “open-minded”.

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327 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:43 am

Amen

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328 Kerry Early February 21, 2013 at 10:04 am

good grief – this is what passes for education now a days? No wonder we are in trouble.

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329 another_engineer February 21, 2013 at 10:05 am

How much you wanna bet the “instructors” are homosexuals?

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330 Daniel Brooks February 21, 2013 at 10:06 am

Oh my Lord. “where Catholic mass and non-denominational services are conducted..” This would make sense…. liberal Catholic parishes are becoming more and more protestant-like. What Catholic church holds protestant services unless a faithful laity no longer attends? Sounds like a dying parish trying to keep itself alive by allowing non-denominational services to be held. What a shame–liberalism is destroying Christianity.

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331 USAGeorge February 21, 2013 at 10:07 am

Learn how to wack off in church?…Lulz…………….Just how progressive or decadent have we become?

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332 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:07 am

This was obviously intended to offend God and his followers. Evil is on the march in our society folks, and everyone must choose whose side to take in the battle. If I were an alum of this college, I’d never donate another penny.

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333 Thomas February 21, 2013 at 10:07 am

Was this okay with the parishoners? These people are making a mockery of religion. this makes me want to puke green phlegm on their faces. How’s that?

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334 A Mockery February 21, 2013 at 10:08 am

Interestingly, in this sexually aware generation, the orgasm is rather elusive for many women. Probably b/c as some of them whined to their OB/Gyn’s, I’ve had sex with dozens of partners, but I’ve never really come! Why?

Well, honey, perhaps you need to readjust your approach and stop whoring around??? Guys are actually have a little less sex. The read thing is too much work and hard to finish the job b/c it’s so much easier to just take care of business in front of your online porn. Apparently, there is a spike of men in their 20′s seeking performance enhancers b/c they can’t handle the real thing since their perception of women has been so distorted by the media.

It reminds me of Sampson. He insisted on pursuing these pagan women who were deceptive – even when he know Delilah was tricking him. But, she was hot. So hot, but eventually he was blind and couldn’t even see it. Biblical justice.

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335 popseal February 21, 2013 at 10:08 am

Reprobation inspired by self appointed religious hacks produces deeper reprobation. That’s why there is a Hell !

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336 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 10:08 am

Disgusting! Obscene! Sex inside a church should be a private matter between a priest and an altar boy.

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337 Hypno Jive February 21, 2013 at 10:21 am

…and the priests you refer to are all liberal Democrats.

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338 Matthew February 21, 2013 at 10:27 am

No they’re not.

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339 Maggy2 February 21, 2013 at 10:09 am

This kind of stuff could only be taught by liberal jack offs

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340 tr888 February 21, 2013 at 10:12 am

Try it at a Muslim gathering if you want to see what hypocrites liberal in academia are.

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341 POC247 February 21, 2013 at 10:13 am

The US is living out Psalm 12:8 which says, “On every side the wicked prowl, as vileness is exalted among the children of man.”

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342 Deborah Wolfe Hoffman February 21, 2013 at 10:14 am

Liberals are just obsessed with sex. They want to indoctinate/teach our children: frontwards, backwards, fist it, group it, siblings ok, cut it off, change it, dress it, pills, kill it … and all in the name of Love.

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343 CultureInDecline February 21, 2013 at 10:15 am

These folks are foolish in the biblical sense. Sick in their thinking. I’m a recovering addict and toying around with lust can be devastating. These folks are in serious deep denial and everything they are speaking of is noting more then the selfish pursuit of pleasure. No where in their little clinic do I read in this story are they talking about how to develop true intimacy. Another sign of a sick culture getting more sick.

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344 JAY February 21, 2013 at 10:16 am

I guess the problem is that they aren’t teaching the regular old fashioned “deviant” sex the church leaders ascribe to

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345 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 10:17 am

Sent my comments directly to Allegheny College: “Hi: I’m the parent of an 11th grader and we’re in the middle of searching for college. We won’t be looking at Allegheny College. Freedom of expression is crucial to the well being of our democracy. Instructors, students and anyone may express their opinions about sex education and Christian doctrine freely. However, you’ve missed the point entirely. It’s disrespectful and insensitive to Christians, especially Catholics, to use a consecrated place of worship to promote ideas directly contrary to orthodox Christian doctrine. To use the chapel is unnecessarily confrontational and hurtful. The fact that the Protestant Chaplain at Allegheny has no problem with it, does not legitimize your venue choice. I am certain you would never attempt such a stunt in a Mosque. Do whatever you’d like, I’m voting with my tuition dollars by investing them elsewhere. I will encourage other like-minded parents to do the same. Best Regards”

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346 Marbran February 21, 2013 at 10:23 am

Spot on with the mosque reference! I was thinking the same thing. If it had been a mosque instead of a church, there’d by riots all across the MENA and SEA today.

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347 Matthew February 21, 2013 at 10:38 am

Chaplain wasn’t protestant.

Space was non-denominational, so about as much of a Mosque as a Church.

Actual Christians have used their places of worship for acts much worse than a lame sex-ed seminar. And clearly it hasnt deterred your devotion to your faith.

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348 Don Ram February 21, 2013 at 10:45 am

matthew is clearly a faggot

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349 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:35 pm

Don Ram is clearly a gentleman.

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350 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:57 am

Sin can occur anywhere. This was an organized and intended affront to God and Christians.

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351 Aj February 21, 2013 at 1:50 pm

No it wasn’t, dumbass.

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352 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 2:42 pm

Do they have name calling seminars at Allegheny too?

353 DaveIsaPussy February 21, 2013 at 7:33 pm

Wow, God sure must be a pussy to literally not do anything about it. Good thing his faithful servant Dave is on the case to post about how angry He is on the internet. Our God is an awesome God!

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354 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:11 am

I’m amazed that you continue to comment on this forum. You clearly are not here to learn from those with whom you disagree, but only to put them down. Do you think you will do well in the future, in whatever you chose to do, by putting people down?

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355 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 1:59 pm

Non-denominational is not the same thing as secular or “a-religious”. It’s intolerant of Christians and orthodox Christianity to purposefully usurp Christian teachings and the Bible in a church. And assuming the space is used by other faiths, Muslims who follow the Koran and Jews who follow the Torah would almost certainly find the seminar disrespectful too.

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356 Shari Sullivan February 21, 2013 at 11:51 am

Being the mother of an 11th grader, I’m going to do the same thing and send a letter to this college. I’m betting that their lack of decency and their acceptance of such a common trash subject, might prove to be a big mistake for this college. By their actions they have tarnished their reputation and now have little to no chance of even being considered by many high quality college bound students.

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357 AA10 February 21, 2013 at 12:59 pm

You *do* realize that some of us live in the 21st century, right?

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358 Sam February 21, 2013 at 1:51 pm

Right, you’re so much smarter than the rest of us that you need to pay $50K per year to go to an over-rated school to teach you things that any grade school kid learned for themself just a few decades ago.

Yeah, you 21st century types are so much smarter, at least in your own stunted minds.

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359 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:34 pm

What a great excuse! “My Junior could have gone to Harvard, but they discuss sex openly there, so instead we sent him to [D-List School].”

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360 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 2:33 pm

Society pretty much discusses sex openly everywhere now. Sex is on every college campus in America. There’s certainly no way to shield a young person from it. But I have taught my young person to value himself and God more than the trash presented in this seminar. I trust God and His grace and forgiveness are bigger than any mistakes or poor choices my child makes.

Secular culture has effectively separated relational intimacy from sexual relationships. Sex in our consumer culture is just another product to be sold and consumed. Colleges now are just providing what their “consumers”, i.e.; students want. So what? Let them. I’m just not stupid enough to implicitly endorse such nonsense by paying for it.

Moreover, small, northeastern liberal arts colleges have to scramble harder than ever in order to survive in the marketplace these days since they are part of an outdated, over priced educational paradigm. Many give a poor return on investment too relative to starting salaries vs. student debt at graduation. Real reform will come when enough parents wise up and refuse to pay tuition to institutions that look down on us as “bourgeois” for disagreeing with their pornography masquerading as educational seminars. They need paying customers a lot more than we need them.

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361 Allegheny Student February 23, 2013 at 12:36 pm

See my response above. Though for you I’ll also have to include the fact that Allegheny College also just won a prestigious award. I’ll wait for a fully researched article to come out from a respectable publication, but until then, I’ll have you know that Allegheny’s reputation is so much stronger than you could ever imagine. Speaking as a student (who is literally seeing prospective students tour the campus today in the hundreds), not only are you obviously wrong, but people who are smart enough to come here won’t be dissuaded by an accident, probably because they’ll do their research. If by the million-to-one chance you realize your particular brand of idiocy, I hope you send a letter of apology back to the college, because President Mullen (who sent out a statement that said “I wish they had hosted it somewhere other than the chapel”) doesn’t deserve this.

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362 Shari Sullivan February 24, 2013 at 11:35 pm

I’m sorry but this school has already proven to be below average by my standards. There will be no letter of apology from me nor probably anyone else who feels this school has poor judgement in its choice of studies. The fact that this “junk” class is even offered in a supposed college of high standard is a nauseating example of the moral decline of academia in our country. The statement from President Mullen regarding the chosen place to host this class is appreciated. The fact is, however, the lack of common sense to fully understand that this topic is inappropriate for ANY place of worship, shows disregard for religious sanctity.

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363 AA10 February 21, 2013 at 12:48 pm

I am sorry that your 11th grader will be a victim of your closed mind.

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364 Sam February 21, 2013 at 1:53 pm

Obviously your mind has been “open” for so long nothing remains inside of it.

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365 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 2:37 pm

Typical liberal nonsense that those who disagree are called names. Contempt and name calling are poor excuses for helpful discussion. We have a values difference. How is your own mind any less closed than mine?

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366 AJ February 21, 2013 at 3:08 pm

What ‘helpful discussion’ is taking place here? Everyone has been attacked from the students to the faculty, so why should you be spared the expense?

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367 AA10 February 21, 2013 at 5:56 pm

I wouldn’t try to shield my child from your values, which I consider as absurd as I’m sure you consider mine. My child can make his or her own decisions.

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368 AJ February 21, 2013 at 1:50 pm

Good, we don’t want you, twat.

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369 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 9:23 pm

The chapel itself is non-denominational. All of the students of all faiths have access to it. It’s not just for Christians….

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370 Allegheny Student February 23, 2013 at 12:29 pm

Okay, this is stupid for so many reasons. First of all, Ford Memorial Chapel is a place not just for non-denominational and Catholic worship services, it is also a forum for concerts, speeches, and faculty lectures. Secondly, it has never been consecrated–this is something that the COLLEGE PRIEST said. It was never consecrated because it is NOT a solely Catholic place of worship. The Methodist chaplain and the Catholic priest share the space with absolutely no animosity whatsoever. The reason the chapel was picked is because the auditorium, which was their DESIRED VENUE was already full. The chapel was the next largest space on campus available for student use. The college chaplain, whom I happen to be friends with, was not told all of the information about what was to happen in the event–in short, she was either lied to or simply misinformed–she’s been too busy dealing with undeserved hate mail for me to know the full story–and I won’t pester her for it if she doesn’t want me to, because I trust her. It’s extremely easy to disparage someone you’ve never met. Though theoretically, if you’re a Christian, it’s difficult to do. She understood the event to be about sex education, education that included things like abstinence, something absent in most high schools. They said nothing of masturbation, which would have been something else entirely. Not only is there no mosque in the general area in which to attempt such a stunt, you must realize that even if there were, it was several STUDENTS that chose where to have the event. The President of this institution is far too busy to deal with idiots like you who don’t even try and figure out the facts. Students always choose where an event is located–it’s called initiative. Sometimes, for larger events, they only have a few possible spaces–not to mention that many of those spaces fill up quickly. I’m sure the students who chose this event now regret it–they’re afraid they will lose funding. After all, the President issued a statement saying that he wished the event had been hosted somewhere else. How dare you malign others for something you know next to nothing about. While it is not entirely clear who is at fault, or what is a fault, it is obvious that the President and the Chaplain are not. Personally? I’m glad that you’re not coming here–though I feel sorry for your son / daughter, who would have a chance to get a quality education (and would have a chance to choose to attend such an event without an overbearing parent trying desperately to shield their child from every possible thing that might damage the doctrine they so furiously drilled into their head. Speaking as a Christian, I myself am appalled that the event was held in the chapel, I don’t know why the students thought that would be a good idea. But beyond that, I know that real faith comes from hearing contrary opinions, and struggling with doubt. Just accepting what you’re told without believing why is brainwashing.

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371 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 10:18 am

Masturbation class should only be taught on Palm Sunday.

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372 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 10:30 am

Ha!
Oh boy.

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373 Johnny Barlow February 21, 2013 at 10:18 am

Being sixty eight yrs old and still enjoying pleasures of the flesh as much as ever, I am amazed that in this day and age, college students need to be “educated” in sexuality. There was no sex-ed in schools back then, but it was extremely rare that a girl got pregnant. Only one case in my three years of high school. (No, it was not my girlfriend). I can assure you that sex was pretty common, but with most girls, it took a lot of time building a relationship first. Unfortunately, those who did become pregnant were forced to drop out of school. Abortions were illegal but we heard rumors of a local Dr who performed them. My, how times have changed; some for the better, some for the worse.

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374 sb February 21, 2013 at 10:19 am

I can’t imagine any of the parents forking out the thousands of dollars in tuition and room and board were expecting this is what their kids are being taught.
Outrage indeed. One more college (fast growing list) on the “Do not apply here” list for my child.

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375 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:08 am

Gotta agree with you.

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376 la davis February 21, 2013 at 10:20 am

what disgusting Jewish trash. typical, that Jews always promote crap like this.

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377 Cudjoekeyguy February 21, 2013 at 10:20 am

…….and how would you like to be the parents of a young person paying for an expensive college like this to learn how to jackoff? WTF over?

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378 libtarded February 21, 2013 at 10:51 am

Yeah… if they haven’t figured out how to jack off by the time they hit college… maybe they should be in special ed? Eh.. scratch that, I’m pretty sure the special ed folks figure that out on their own as well…

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379 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 10:21 am

O come all ye faithful!

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380 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 10:39 am

Come they told him
Par rup a pum pum

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381 Marbran February 21, 2013 at 10:21 am

When liberals infiltrate any organization with significant numbers they transform that organization into something wholly different that what it was originally. They call that process “inclusion.” I blame the female chaplain for allowing it to be held there, but it is her reputation on the line so she deserves whatever fallout comes from the decision.

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382 Tony R February 21, 2013 at 10:22 am

A few thoughts…why is this an outrage? Did you attend this event? Do you know what was said? Contrary to what some of you appear to believe…..NOT EVERYONE HAS THE SAME RELIGIOUS BELIEFS YOU DO!!! These may be wonderful and intelligent people. The event was held at a chapel….WITH THE CONSENT OF THE CHAPLAIN…this doesn’t show a desire to desecrate the facility, but to use an available space which the CHAPLAIN allowed.
I am a strong conservative….minus the religious zeal that draws derision (rightly so) for its “what is good for me is good for you” attitude which religious conservatives so strongly oppose when it comes to welfare, fiscal policy, and foreign relations.
Two loving homosexual people marrying each other (which is a LEGAL status as they desire it, not a RELIGIOUS recognition of HOLY matrimony) has zero bearing on your life, and you need to leave it alone. I promise, heterosexual people have done a more than adequate job of destroying the “sanctity of marriage” in this country.
If you don’t want the government telling YOU how to live, STOP telling others how to.

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383 Don Ram February 21, 2013 at 10:38 am

you are a deviant

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384 AKBAN February 21, 2013 at 10:42 am

And you call yourself a conservative? Yes, I believe in freedom of religion as much as anyone else. Yes the chaplain (an obviously un godly man) let these worthless liberal garbage sacks do their tutorial inside his church.
But that doesn’t erase the fact on what they did. According to Christianity and other religions the church is a dwelling place for God. God’s house. Their tutorial goes against christianity in that the church is house for worship. Period! Not a drn orgy of godless young adults where they can masturbate all over the place. That is sickening.
2nd homosexuality is wrong. End of story. Sure there are “good” homos in the world, but the act of it is wrong. Can 2 men make a baby together? Can 2 women? NO! Therefore it was never meant to be! It is not normal! Do u like 2 men rubbing their junk against each other? Pretty nasty huh? Not normal, immoral, never meant to be. End of discussion.

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385 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:46 am

We really don’t care that they held this event. But to hold it in the chapel when they have other campus buildings was an intentional affront to God and Christians. You are defending evil.

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386 AJ February 21, 2013 at 2:21 pm

No it wasn’t you stupid fuck, there were no other buildings available that would hold the amount of people who were expected to attend.. it’s a small campus with lots of student activity groups. You don’t go here, you don’t know what the fuck goes on, so quit making assumptions.

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387 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 10:47 am

Religious liberty and pluralism are predicated upon mutual respect, tolerance and courtesy. To use a consecrated place of worship to promote ideas and practices contrary to orthodox Christian doctrine is an “in your face” behavior that fails on all 3 counts. It’s hurtful, disrespectful, discourteous, and intolerant to Bible-believing Protestants and practicing Catholics. The Protestant Chaplain’s approval of the venue has no bearing on these other factors at all. Great for Allegheny to have open conversations, seminars–whatever. Unkind to do it in a church.

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388 monteub2bad February 21, 2013 at 11:01 am

Say these things after the Resurrection/rapture takes place before your very eyes and you realize that you were left behind http://youtu.be/CBsYDhNxFlU

To even express the views that you have shows you are not conservative at all and most definitely not Christian.

You are either for God or against Him James 4:4

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389 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:06 am

I’m glad you are in college. I pray that you are only ignorant and not stupid. Ignorance can be fixed.

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390 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:40 am

Like I said the last time you posted this exact comment, this is not about the occurrence of a sex ed class, it is about the choice of location.

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391 AKBAN February 21, 2013 at 10:23 am

That’s the sickest thing I have heard all day. Forget just the obvious Godless Liberal behavior. These “future world changing americans” are without morals, without heart, never had a decent upbringing, worthless pieces of garbage that the world would be better off without.
How about these pathetic (censored due to extreme amounts of profanity) go do their lame tutorial somewhere else. Like the middle of the highway, a train track, middle of nowhere, or how about a satanic church! I’m sure they would be most welcome there!
Great America is dead. No morals, liberalism running wild, and a socialist/commie running the country. America is going to ruin.
I hope these young-ins find God/morality before it’s too late!

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392 Bernard Gui February 21, 2013 at 10:25 am

The choice of location was obviously in-your-face to Christians.

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393 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:42 am

Yep. According to the Facebook page, lectures on other topics are scheduled to be held in the building called “Campus Center”. This was an intentional affront to God and Christians.

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394 Really? February 21, 2013 at 7:26 pm

Yes an intentional affront when the largest room in the campus center was booked, which was the only room that was able to hold over 200 people.

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395 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:05 am

Try this in a mosque, oh brave one who is “going into the military.”

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396 Guest Guess February 21, 2013 at 10:29 am

There will be a terrible retribution ….God will judge …this country we are being punished into obscurity! God reigns!!!

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397 Marius Quentical February 21, 2013 at 10:30 am

Looks like THIS COLLEGE needs a fix. As civilized humans, we need to keep our professional educational lives and our personal intimate lives COMPARTMENTALIZED>

That is one of the key elements that separates us form the lower animals. Grow up, people!

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398 NoParty February 21, 2013 at 10:31 am

This is truly vile. If there are people of College age who need such lessons, then I think they are too stupid to attend an institution of higher learning. I don’t know what the Bible says about such practices, but I think that Chaplain Jane Ellen Nickel must be a full fledged progressive nihilist… not what one thinks of when one sees the word “non-denominational”, ditto Mr. DiChristiana. To hold it in a Chapel is the ultimate in “in you face anti-Christian” envelope pushing behavior. The identity of the groups who sponsored it says it all. Rationalize it all you want, I believe it is trashy, rude and slimy…and intentionally so….didn’t the College have any other rooms, or was the Chapel the ultimate in their anti-Christian agenda?

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399 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:52 am

Exactly. According to their facebook page, Allegheny College plans to host lectures in other buildings, e.g., their “Campus Center”. This was an intentional affront to God and Christians.

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400 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:04 am

I agree. If my kids were in this college I would inform them — and the college administration — that I would no longer pay their tuition.

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401 escapedin62 February 21, 2013 at 11:17 am

Spot on!

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402 Don Ram February 21, 2013 at 10:32 am

These people should be publicly flogged and caned within an inch of their life.

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403 Jay Cee February 21, 2013 at 10:33 am

I’m always amazed at the emphasis humans put on sex. Don’t get me wrong, I totally dig it, but WHY do we need tutorials and seminars on it? I mean, we’ve been doing it since the beginning of time and we STILL don’t know how to do yet? Is sex the only joy in some folks life? If so, what a miserable existence, as there is SOOO much more to life than just sex.

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404 Michael White February 21, 2013 at 10:34 am

“…and they have made of My Father’s House a den of thieves.”

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405 King_Solomon1 February 21, 2013 at 10:34 am

VILE ROTTEN LIBERALS ARE DESTROYING THIS COUNTRY MORE AND MORE EACH DAY

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406 Maurice Atkinson February 21, 2013 at 10:35 am

INSANE….No respect, no decorum and all the excuses for societal decay…

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407 Jeffrey Gower February 21, 2013 at 10:36 am

Keynote speaker: Bill Clinton

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408 Ano February 21, 2013 at 10:38 am

How far can my eyes roll back in my head. And to think, such are the things we pay outrageous tuition and, indirectly, taxes, for.

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409 Dan Higgins February 21, 2013 at 10:38 am

you think they would have been able to do this in a jewish temple or a Mosk ?

Homosexuality is wrong, the bible is very clear on this fact…

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410 bevus February 21, 2013 at 10:40 am

These idiots cannot jerk off without paying a fee for a professor!!!!
what is not funny is we are paying for their tuition thru Obamaknowledge.And they wonder why they cannot find a job???? OMG, add Obamanomics+college jerk off courses and that equals dumb and stupid.

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411 Anthony February 21, 2013 at 10:41 am

It is a COLLEGE. There are hundreds of places they could’ve held it, but they chose to put it in a church?! Makes me glad I’m going into the military instead of college. At least there’s some semblance of sanity there.

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412 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:02 am

I hope the military teaches you some respect. Your comments show you are a (losing) army of one.

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413 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 10:41 am

Come they told him
Par rup a pum pum……

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414 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:41 am

I doubt this is what Mr. and Mrs. Ford had in mind when they donated the money for the chapel 100 years ago. How sad to see the college (most of American academia, really) decline so far.

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415 Clyde Glyde February 21, 2013 at 10:41 am

so let me get this straight.the progressive know it all needs a tutorial in this area.and yet they consider themselves wiser than god.typical.

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416 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 10:42 am

I’m done shaking hands at church…….

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417 Gamera February 21, 2013 at 10:42 am

God must be weeping….

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418 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 10:43 am

And kissing the popes hand. Forget about it.

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419 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 11:00 am

This little thing of yers is becoming masturbatory. I’m flattered. Really.

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420 indy56 February 21, 2013 at 10:43 am

I am sure there is a special place in Dante’s Inferno for these folks.

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421 Dave February 21, 2013 at 10:44 am

Satan loves leftist intellectuals.

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422 Mars in Scorpio February 21, 2013 at 10:45 am

Just goes to show how degraded anglo saxon americans have become when
they have to attend a college seminar to learn how to jerk-off.

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423 The JoungeMaster February 21, 2013 at 10:45 am

This immorality is an affront to our beloved saviour Santa Clause. Surely one day Santa Clause will destroy humankind in a most horrifying manner appropriate for the level of the species’ indiscretions on this mortal coil.

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424 Kyle Massey February 21, 2013 at 10:45 am

Have one of these seminars… just one… in a mosque, and then we’ll have the discussion. Heh. Actually, the discussion won’t take place, because they’ll put a fatwah on your ass, and it will be the last seminar you ever do.

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425 LiberalMediaIsCorrupt February 21, 2013 at 10:46 am

This is so freaking sick on two counts. Doing this in a church and people too stupid to figure out how to masturbate “on their own”.

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426 Gabbie February 21, 2013 at 10:47 am

No wonder kids are coming out of college dumber than bricks. Who dreams up these classes? If this is what the Progressive Left Party of Obama wants, Leave my kids out.

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427 GabbieIsAnIdiot February 21, 2013 at 7:37 pm

Good, your moron kids won’t be competing with those of us who are educated for jobs. Also, fuck you.

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428 jcill February 21, 2013 at 10:50 am

The only difference between this and burning the Koran is that Christians are not going to riot and kill people.

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429 Pat Geary February 21, 2013 at 10:51 am

Two of my children went to Allegheny and I have attended Mass there.What a disgrace.

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430 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:03 am

It was probably a decent place when Mr. and Mrs. Ford paid for this chapel. So sad to see the decline of civilization.

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431 Arnold Ripkin February 21, 2013 at 10:53 am

SHOCKING!!!! College age students that graduated high school without learning how to masturbate. Shameful!

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432 Bill White February 21, 2013 at 10:55 am

Gee….I wonder how we had sex before all this education came about? I guess the great Masters studied Crucifixes in jars of urine to see how great art looks too! Liberals are beyond insane….they approach pure evil but are too ignorant to know it.

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433 aerojack7 February 21, 2013 at 10:56 am

What is it with the liberal mindset? Have they no decency whatsoever? It has gotten to the point where the word “pervert” can no longer be used, as it may offend perverts. The silent majority needs to get off their collective butts and start striking back at this nonsense.

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434 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:04 am

Liberalism is like perpetual adolescence. They’re vandalizing and destroying the civilization our ancestors gave us.

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435 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:48 am

Strongly agree.

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436 DaveIsaPussy February 21, 2013 at 7:35 pm

Did you work up a little spittle with your righteous indignation? Did it fleck off onto your desk while you typed?

Also, fuck you.

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437 kateorjane February 21, 2013 at 10:58 am

And I’m supposed to be comfortable with idea that the future of our country is in the hands of those who find nothing classless about attending a program in a religious building where they are taught how to shape those hands in a claw to masturbate?
You have to wonder if this was the ONLY space the college had to hold this gathering or if they just went for the “in your face” reaction immediately and scheduled it during Lent for full offense.

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438 heather February 21, 2013 at 10:58 am

The left defends the most heinous acts of its barbarian army islam while shredding the decency of Christianity.
The left homosexualist marxist infiltrators into the Catholic priesthood were also all about shredding Christianity. The Catholic church paid hundreds of millions in damages; since when do you see islam which openly embraces pederasty pay so much as a penny?
Read the Communist Manifesto in the 1963 Congressional Record, the left clearly lays out their agenda to destroy the west including destroying Christianity and the nuclear family.

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439 James February 21, 2013 at 10:58 am

It’s strange to me how this stuff NEVER happens in a mosque…..it’s only the Christians who always have to take it. However, no doubt the people who hosted it thought they were really speaking “truth to power” by holding it an church.

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440 paraducks February 21, 2013 at 11:01 am

Boy Scout meetings not allowed

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441 Robert Fisch February 21, 2013 at 11:02 am

So I guess we should pump more money into education for this kind of stuff. That would be the liberal way. Real important seminar instead of maybe true history or hell even teaching some to do basic math as I have hired some college graduates over the years and pretty scary how much they don’t know in comparison to some high school graduates. The liberal way is definitely not what’s best for america.

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442 Jesse Schoeder February 21, 2013 at 11:02 am

Come on now…….

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443 Free Stuff February 21, 2013 at 11:03 am

Weirdo leftists will be in our daycare centers and barnyards pleasuring themselves if we let them.

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444 Mapache February 21, 2013 at 11:23 am

The barnyards I would think would be ok as long as they don’t bother the cows and the chickens.

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445 Free Stuff February 21, 2013 at 11:08 am

It has been declared a Human right for perverts to live among the normal.

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446 paraducks February 21, 2013 at 11:42 am

No it has been declared that normal people must avert their eyes and genuflect before the pervert lest they be offended…

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447 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:45 am

Aren’t you CLEVER! My, what a little learning seems to do for you.

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448 John February 21, 2013 at 11:09 am

I betcha Mszzz Weinberg wouldn’t like it so much if I went into a Temple and held a “seminar”, questioning the veracity of the Torah. Oh wait, the Torah IS the first 5 books of the Bible. so… Oh forget it what’s the use, she’s probably an Atheist anyway.

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449 Kathleen Smythe February 21, 2013 at 11:09 am

“Higher” edication? Seriously? This has NO business being part of a college curriculum. If you want that kind of information, go read Playboy or Hustler or Google it. This is one of the reasons I dropped out of college back in the late 70′s. I took a Marriage and Family class, and the professor I really liked had to drop the class because she had been promoted to the head of department. The professor who replaced her, on his first day, showed us a movie on the same subject. I got up and left and never went back. This was in 1978! God help us…

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450 E Jabez February 21, 2013 at 11:10 am

Every alum of this school should cease donating until the entire administration and board of trustees is removed. No discussion. This is what is destroying higher Ed and by extension the nation.

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451 Kraviwannabe February 21, 2013 at 11:10 am

This about plain “ol RESPECT, something liberals can never get a grasp of

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452 lucky gmail February 21, 2013 at 11:11 am

And yet their are some who still feel that our world is NOT going on an express train to hell. I don’t see how!

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453 Free Stuff February 21, 2013 at 11:12 am

One is not truly free or reach an intellectual zenith until one can bend naked in full light and defecate on a police care with a large audience present

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454 Viveleresistance February 21, 2013 at 11:12 am

Way to go higher education! Teaching kids to focus on their genitalia instead of mind enriching knowledge to help them survive in the job market. What’s next? Telling the girls they don’t need to worry their poor liitle minds about such manly things and should just lay on their backs? Or perhaps open a new business school dedicated to art of running profitable brothels? Sickos.

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455 escapedin62 February 21, 2013 at 11:13 am

At least the article named the scumbags involved in this travesty.

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456 Steve H February 21, 2013 at 11:13 am

Unbelievably offensive. This is persecution.

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457 Shari Sullivan February 21, 2013 at 11:13 am

The fact that these idiots have not one iota of decency left to know that this is just plain wrong (really, in a church?) makes me very worried that we have raised a generation of young people who have lost their reasoning skills and their sense of modesty about such a private, personal matter.

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458 heather February 21, 2013 at 11:14 am

Call them out! McCarthy was a genius and patriot and way ahead of his time. Commies only know infiltration, subversion, plunder and destruction. Bring them out to the light of day and call them out for the evil enslaving murdering (260 million murders by the left) that they are. Do NOT call them “liberals” that is what they want you to call them, they are fascists, nazis, communists, socialists, stalinists, maoists. Make them own their own evil. They are the murderers and enslavers and they ought to reap the punishment of their behavior. Call them out! They scatter like cockroaches for the cowardly corners!

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459 audaxrex February 22, 2013 at 5:05 am

I’m pretty sure that ‘fascists and nazis’ is you guys on the right, despite whatever doubletalk you may have fallen for.

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460 Mapache February 21, 2013 at 11:15 am

Perhaps the Bishop of Pittsburgh ought to weigh in and prohibit the Catholic Mass from being celebrated in that location. It would seem to me that it was a deliberate attempt to profane the religious environment.

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461 Don Ram February 21, 2013 at 11:16 am

Notice how the liberals take great pains to associate the Catholic Church with this drivel the target is always the Catholic Church because even the degenerate liberals revere the Church.

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462 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:31 am

Satan’s biggest target is the Catholic Church.

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463 FifeAndDrum February 21, 2013 at 11:49 am

He already took over the Dem party.

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464 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:57 am

Agree. The degenerate liberal press has targeted the Catholic Church, not because it is the biggest offender, but rather because of two stands it has taken: (1) It opposes the gay lifestyle, and (2) It opposes killing unborn children.

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465 Kelly Laraia February 21, 2013 at 11:19 am

Tuition at Allegheny College – over $37,000 per year. They could learn this stuff on their own with a little imagination.

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466 angelccorr February 21, 2013 at 11:20 am

They don’t have a problem with this activity being held in a chapel? Really, there are no other buildings on campus they could have used? Please, this was a direct attack on the Church!

The Dean of Students said, “They have a great message about caring relationships.” Really? They desecrate a chapel where people worship, and call that caring?

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467 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:34 am

Their facebook page lists upcoming lectures on a variety of topics, in other locations (e.g., the Campus Center). This was an intentional affront to God and Christians.

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468 festus hagan February 21, 2013 at 11:20 am

The march of utopian secular socialism goes on…

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469 TheTruthIsNotPC February 21, 2013 at 11:21 am

Gee, the decay of the moral fiber of this society seems eerily similar to the decay of the Romans and Greeks before their empires were relegated to the dustbin of history…

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470 Metalshaper February 21, 2013 at 11:23 am

I bet they wouldn’t DARE do this in a muslim prayer room!

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471 Jim Rall February 21, 2013 at 11:23 am

Did the lecture include “Feltching” for gays (look it up, it’s too disgusting to mention what it is).

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472 leebert February 21, 2013 at 11:27 am

Jesus tells us that the last days will be like “the days of Noah”… Check out the Book of Genisis and read what the days of Noah were all about… It’s pretty clear to me that Christ will be returning soon… and, whow, the world will be surprised !!!
Other signs: Enemies of Israel will be surrounding this nation – poised to going to war.
- A confederacy of Mid-East nations, Russia and a European confederacy will declare war on Israel, Financial chaos will force nations to demand a one world currency -A huge decline in morality (another example:i.e. this story) will dominate the culture, a weakening church (churches for the most part are dying ‘in many countries in Europe, America). Christ himself said ‘ will I find faith when I return?’… and many dramatic signs in the skies… Just read the Book of Revelation.

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473 binkyspop2 February 21, 2013 at 11:27 am

Truly a generation worthy of distruction.

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474 jason February 21, 2013 at 11:27 am

A church? I don’t go to church but couldn’t the pervs find another building to drool over young students, other than a church? I’d like to see Ms. WEINBERG go into a mosque and teach masturbation. I would be willing to pay for her one way ticket to Saudi Arabia.

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475 PhocusPlease February 21, 2013 at 11:27 am

Well what do you expect? We have Godless America hating tenured psuedo professors teaching our children what to think instead of how to think. When will you stand up and say “enough”?

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476 Aiken_Roo February 21, 2013 at 11:28 am

How amazingly disrespectful.

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477 Robert B Brock February 21, 2013 at 11:28 am

Let’s face it: the radical Leftists that pranced around demonstrating against Vietnam and espousing Communist victory (remember Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh, the NLF are going to win?) have take over PUBLIC UNIVERSITIES across America and have succeeded in creating a wave of over-educated Commie simps that hide from public scrutiny as DEMOCRATS.

So what do we in traditional America get? An Obamination a day. Some tasty commie sh*t sandwich we get rubbed in our face by Lefty Loons in NY, California, or the White House.
How do I know? I graduated with honors from UC BERKELEY in ’05 despite being a member of the UC Campus REPUBLICANS! I know WTF I’m talkin’ about! I had to take a big bite outta that Commie sandwich every day I went there.

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478 Combat_Vet February 21, 2013 at 11:42 am

As one of those Vietnam Vets returning to the US in ’67 I told everyone that I could that one day the left wing liberal democrats would ruin our country.
Only a few listened, to bad.

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479 timmanb February 21, 2013 at 11:29 am

wait a minute, a man instructing women on masturbation? Where’s the outrage? Remember the hurrah over men weighing in on abortion? How dare he?

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480 Charlie Ford February 21, 2013 at 11:29 am

Try that in a mosque, maybe jihad would overcome you. Now that’s how real people defend their places of worship

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481 Vorenious February 21, 2013 at 11:29 am

Totally inappropriate to be taught at a college, let alone the church that is used by many congregations.

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482 angelccorr February 21, 2013 at 11:30 am

Masturbation leads to pornography, and pornography is exploitation of the human person, especially women and children.

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483 EightBall343 February 21, 2013 at 11:31 am

We are witnessing our country slowly but surely collapsing from the inside. There is an evil and sickness that permeates the very core of our society. For those who do not believe, I can tell you Satan is alive a well.

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484 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:32 am

Are any students from Allegheny College even reading this article? Or is that place so void of actual intellectual curiosity that none of them read news?

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485 AJ February 21, 2013 at 2:28 pm

Fuck you. This is exactly what I’m talking about… you don’t agree with something so you throw an entire group of people under the bus.

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486 Publius February 21, 2013 at 11:33 am

And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and
bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers,
and the chairs of them that sold doves:

And he saith to them: It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but you have made it a den of thieves.

And there came to him the blind and the lame in the temple; and he healed them.

And the chief priests and scribes, seeing the wonderful things that he did,
and the children crying in the temple, and saying: Hosanna to the son
of David; were moved with indignation.

And said to him: Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus said to them: Yea,
have you never read: Out of the mouth of infants and of sucklings thou
hast perfected praise?

And leaving them, he went out of the city into Bethania, and remained there.

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487 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 11:33 am

As a facilitator of this event I would really like to let everyone know a few things:

1) The church was a last resort as a venue for the event. Several other locations were considered but they were all books for the time that we had arranged with the facilitators. Using the (and let’s remember this) NONdenominational space of Ford Chapel was a last minute fix. No where else on campus could hold a group of the size we were hoping to get.

2) This event about more than just masturbation and some of those quotes were taken out of context. Yes, proper sex and masturbation techniques were talked about but so was abstinence and making sure that the partner you chose is the right one for you and the visual aids were in no way pornographic. They simply showed drawings of female anatomy (an anatomy that God created mind you) so that everyone in the room could gain a better understanding of what was said.

I understand that this program is not for everyone, and I respect that but please don’t look at the title and think that everyone in the room was some sort of pagan. The board of the Reproductive Health Coalition did everything that we could to make sure that we did not disrespect the space and told as many people as we could that if they had any problems or questions, that they should feel free to ask. I had quite a few students come up to me and ask questions and by having a conversation about the event a lot of misunderstandings were taken care of.

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488 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:38 am

This is a poor excuse. Why not relocate one of those other events to the church? Or, were you afraid that someone headed to a literature lecture in the originally scheduled room may be offended to walk in on the sex class?

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489 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 11:53 am

They needed specific spaces like a large stage for band practice with acoustics or an area to eat. Our campus is small so there aren’t a lot of large spaces to use. We really tried to make it work in other spaces but people weren’t budging. You don’t think we saw this problem ahead of time? Trust me, being called a slutty pagan on the internet by people who don’t even know the situation isn’t on the top of my to do list.

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490 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:56 am

Then re-schedule the event for a different day. How much do you people make in salary? Your tuition is $37k a year! Wow, you’re ruining a lot of kids’ financial futures with little effort.

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491 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 12:09 pm

I am a student. ReproCo (The Reproductive Health Coalition) is a student run group that is about keeping students safe and healthy. And the date was set before we made arrangements for a specific location.

Also I don’t like being called a liar. I’ll say it one last time- The CHAPEL was a last resort. We didn’t want to use it but FemaleO is a nationally touring group. We were given a day and had to stick with it. It had nothing to do with lent or the church. Period. End of story.

492 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm

Keep this up and your campus may become yet smaller.

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493 sabercat February 21, 2013 at 12:56 pm

there is enough sex exploration and exploitation on campuses without specific groups bringing in speakers to add to it.
sadly, the dumbing down of america continues.

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494 BooBoo February 21, 2013 at 11:42 am

Drop dead you idiot “bored member” Keep your perverted ideas of sexuality in your own house.

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495 Publius February 21, 2013 at 11:50 am

It does not matter that the church was a last resort. The fact that this event was still held is disgusting. If a house of GOD was the last resort the event should have been canceled.

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496 jason February 21, 2013 at 11:56 am

You’re full of it! The church was a last resort? This event was held at the church on purpose so don’t lie about it. I’m sure Ms. Weinberg was all broken up over going into a church that actively holds Lent services. Such tolerance for people of faith.

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497 AJ February 21, 2013 at 8:47 pm

Shut the fuck up.

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498 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 12:18 pm

Your apologia is reasoned, yet seems more defensive than an apriori. What you may or may not have noticed is that a great many comments posted here in defense could be considered pagan, atheistic, and downright hostile to people who have different beliefs. That explains much of the activity. I would hope that your school teaches tolerance and diversity across the board and not just tolerance for left-leaning ideas and ideology. Too many intellectuals are very intolerant of what they cannot or refuse to consider.

Consider this quote from Herbert Spencer, “There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance – that principle is contempt prior to investigation.”

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499 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 12:49 pm

I honestly do feel a little defensive. This was a wonderful program that taught self love, better body image and a medley of other non masturbatory topics but because people feel offended they feel the need to call us (specifically me because I am replying) their own hostile names while preaching faith and love. I’m just a little tired of our group receiving flak for what we do when all we want to do is keep fellow students safe. Because they are having sex whether we talk about it or not. I would rather have everyone educated than not.

And Allegheny is all about tolerance and diversity. A faith week was just held recently, so why can we not hold our event? Yes the location wasn’t perfect but it what was available. I’ve said that no disrespect was meant but it’s like I’m talking to a wall. It’s just disheartening to know that so few people are willing to be open minded and listen.

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500 Thorien February 21, 2013 at 12:55 pm

1) They should have turned you down. If that’s against the rules, well, it shouldn’t be. Nondenominational doesn’t mean “Hey, let’s look at pictures of vaginas!”

2) I understand – because you can’t talk about choosing a partner wisely without teaching people how to masturbate.

Perhaps the SAT/ACT should test students on the meaning of the word “tacky”; I don’t think these college kids understand what it means.

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501 kelly February 21, 2013 at 1:21 pm

There’s nothing sinful about vaginas. Jeez.

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502 axemole February 21, 2013 at 7:50 pm

1) “I understand that this program is not for everyone, and I respect…”??? please, do not say I respect with your mouth and with your actions you are offending Catholics and Jews alike. Either you are blind or ignorant to our beliefs. What you have done, it has been done. Your conscience seemed to be somewhat working when you said this was the last resort as a venue for the event, but you chose it nonetheless. Irregardless of the beliefs of Catholics and Jews. Now YOU need to embrace the consequences of your actions.

2) “The board of the Reproductive Health Coalition did everything that we could to make sure that we did not disrespect the space and told as many people as we could…” Did everything that you could? apparently it was not enough: so you couldn’t re-schedule, host it off-campus, ask someone else to swap places, etc. so you felt entitled to go ahead and trampled on the beliefs of others… gee you must really believe that we can sympathize with you.

3) “did everything to make sure that we did not disrespect”??? how about the title of the seminar itself? Do you really think we are stupid? Don’t you think that the title is a spit in the face for those whose belief of sexuality is sacred not an attraction at a 6-flags park?

4) No one is questioning the value of the information. What is blatantly absurd is that you somehow found it appropriate to go ahead and host the seminar — fill the title of your seminar— INSIDE A CHAPEL WHERE CATHOLICS CELEBRATE MASS, where Jews gather to pray, etc.

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503 vanman2010 February 21, 2013 at 11:37 am

Breaking News! bill clinton(sic),john edwards and tiger woods will be hosting the next seminar.They will not charge the college anything providing they can provide individual tutoring to 9 young students.

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504 John February 21, 2013 at 11:38 am

From the looks of things I’d say that college students have a pretty good working knowledge of their own bodies and hosting masturbatory seminars in a chapel strikes me as gratuitous. Were there no other venues available?

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505 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 11:41 am

Actually no. All other locations on campus large enough for the event were already booked. Ford was the last resort.

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506 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:42 am

Relocating one of those other events would have been the prudent thing to do.

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507 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 12:17 pm

We honestly tried to. But they needed specific locations with specific equipment. Also Ford is not sacred because it is not a church, only a chapel. It is used by more than just the Christian church. We removed the alter and prayer books at the request of some of the more religiously affiliated students. We respected the space as much as we could but no other building holds 200+ people comfortably. This is a small college not a large university with unlimited space.

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508 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 1:05 pm

Any place where people pray is sacred. Does no one pray in your chapel? Have you asked the Catholic priest about your opinion?

509 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 12:06 pm

If I would not desecrate your sacred place, why would you consider desecrating someone else’s?

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510 John February 21, 2013 at 3:10 pm

Still, masturbatory seminars? Really?

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511 Darbwg February 21, 2013 at 11:38 am

Get them begging for tyranny so they have less time to worry about personal responsibility and more time to worry about their G spot.

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512 wait for flash February 21, 2013 at 11:39 am

Chaplain Jane Ellen Nickel said in an email to The College Fix that she saw nothing wrong with the event.

Email: [email protected]
Phone: (814) 332-2800

“I don’t have a problem with it being held in the chapel. The program advocates responsible, respectful decision-making regarding sexual behavior, and includes the option waiting for marriage, a message that resonates with many students of faith. While the name may have some shock value, the event itself is consistent with our policy of opening the building to campus groups. We would love it if students at such an event experience the chapel as a welcoming space, and then feel encouraged to attend a religious service or program.”

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513 jason February 21, 2013 at 12:03 pm

What kind of chaplain is this? You don’t recruit pedophiles as baseball coaches and scout masters because you have trouble getting volunteers. The same can be said for this event, used as a recruitment tool to get students to come to church. Jane Nickel is convoluted in her thinking.

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514 Dave February 21, 2013 at 12:06 pm

What else would Jane Ellen Nickel say? Her best friends are in the college’s “women’s studies” department, where they are experts in things like “feminist and queer theory”, and other incredibly important subjects.

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515 Gabby Johnson February 21, 2013 at 12:06 pm

I just wrote to the maniac’s email. Thanks. I recommend EVERYBODY DO IT.

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516 Captain Reynault February 21, 2013 at 11:41 am

1. Was the Chapel the only place on campus that could have been used for this “seminar?”
2. Why were no classrooms or lecture halls available?
3. What are Ms. Weinberg’s credentials to teach the Bible?
I conclude the Chapel was chosen for this event to specifically insult Christians, contrary to Chaplain Nickel’s view that such events may serve as advertisements for attending Christian worship services. I agree with Mapache that the Catholic Archdiocese should investigate this. Likewise, donors to Allegheny College.
And God bless Ms. McAvinchey, in Christ’s Name. (Ephesians 6:10-13)

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517 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 11:47 am

The chapel was a last resort. All other locations large enough had already been booked for the times that we needed. We had absolutely no intention of using the CHAPEL (not a church!) in the first place. As a board member of the group that put this on I can say with total sincerity that absolutely no insults we meant to the church. We just needed the space.

Does anyone really have credentials to teach the Bible? Not to be rude but there seems to be a lot of people on here quoting it. What are their credentials?

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518 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 11:52 am

Read Matthew 28. All Christians have the responsibility to proclaim the good news. How did you become involved with a Board that oversees a Chapel and not know this?

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519 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 12:04 pm

Current donors to the school allowed a fraternity back on campus that once raped a girl to an inch of her life. While I do not blame the men who are in it now, what message did that send to women coming to Allegheny?

And I’m a member of the Reproductive Health Coalition. Not the chapel so I do not know specific scripture but how do you know she isn’t a Christian who just wants to make sure that students are being safe and healthy? The quotes make her sound much more extreme than she was.

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520 axemole February 21, 2013 at 9:33 pm

You must be in denial of the fact that you made a BIG mistake in choosing the Chapel to host your seminar… you wanted to host it in a Chapel where Christian groups meet, well live and learn and deal with the consequences of your uninformed actions.

521 Dave February 21, 2013 at 11:53 am

Do you think the Fords intended this use for the chapel they funded? What message are you sending future donors?

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522 Gabby Johnson February 21, 2013 at 12:02 pm

AMEN CAPT’N, AMEN

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523 obammy February 21, 2013 at 11:42 am

Wow. I don’t know what’s worse here… the money spent by parents to send their kids to college to “learn” this, the church that allowed it to happen inside a church, or the fact that someone actually thought this up and made it happen. They would have been better served to hold this fine semenar in a bar. Libs: Making the world better every day. Next up: Tranny day in church.
“Our “students” were excited….” I bet they were. Whip it out and get it on between the pews! Good Lord, what has become of this country.
I heard several senators attended.

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524 jmarshall9 February 21, 2013 at 11:43 am

When I went to college, women were no taught how to finger themselves.

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525 steviethek February 21, 2013 at 11:45 am

1. Onan wasn’t struck dead for masturbating, he was struck dead for violating God’s law. (BTW I learned that in undergrad Bib Lit, not in any religious institution)
2. Anyone who needs instruction in masturbation is beyond help.

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526 nobama February 21, 2013 at 11:46 am

What a bunch of jerk-off’s!

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527 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 12:13 pm

Pun intended??

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528 GINNER February 21, 2013 at 11:47 am

Just curious, but who is paying for this?

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529 heather February 21, 2013 at 12:03 pm

CAIR, Council on American Islamic Relations?? American Communist Party?? DNC??? Obama for America??? Soros? Weather Underground? Annenberg Foundation?

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530 Samantha February 21, 2013 at 2:34 pm

And how much, I wonder….

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531 John 3:16 February 21, 2013 at 11:50 am

How dare you do this in a house of God!
There are many other rooms in a college this could/should have been done.
So it’s quite obvious why you chose the church.
The chaplain…..maybe it’s time to step down.

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532 Flint February 21, 2013 at 11:50 am

GOD HATES FACTS

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533 heather February 21, 2013 at 12:04 pm

God is fact.

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534 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 12:04 pm

But God is truth, and truth comprises all fact. Think …

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535 Jerry Lawson February 21, 2013 at 11:52 am

Very Few will see God

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536 heather February 21, 2013 at 11:53 am

Betcha the Low IQ-ers of the Allegheny College Reproductive Health Coalition would never cover the topic of islamic clitoridectomy practices in muslim girls (whereby they can NEVER have any orgasm at all) whereas they have a female orgasm clinic to diss a Catholic church. Commies are always cowards, and besides they use islam as their barbarian army so turn a blind eye.

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537 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 12:00 pm

Allegheny has actually taught a class all about Muslim sexuality and gender roles. I’ve taken it and am a member of the board. Far from an expert I can in fact talk about those practices.

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538 Sam February 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm

Did you get to practice honor killings and genital mutilation? Do you practice Sharia on the side?

I sure hope you are not a Boardmember for Allegheny College. Muslim sexuality is an important thing for you to learn about? And, by gosh, you can in fact talk about those practices.

Freaking incredible. And to think how venerated Allegheny College used to be. Now it is a hideous joke about people paying $50K a year to learn what grade school kids always figured out for themselves.

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539 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 4:26 pm

Actually I’m a student who helped put on the event ,which was by no means mandatory for students.

And how is learning about the Koran and the bad things that might happen because of it be any different than learning about the bible and the different killings that have resulted from its teachings? I’m pretty sure the KKK is christian based. That doesn’t mean I think that everyone who studies it is a racist asshole.

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540 Dave February 21, 2013 at 12:46 pm

AC costs $42k per year and is 56% female. I’m guessing it’s a bastion of limousine liberal women – a bunch of girls from wealthy families who think they’re compassionate by supporting the termination of unborn poor babies. You see, these girls can’t imagine living life without parents who can afford $160,000 for college, so they think that no one could live a good life without that level of wealth.

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541 AJ February 21, 2013 at 2:38 pm

Shut the fuck up, Dave. You know nothing about the college… go back to fucking your bible.

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542 Get your facts straight February 21, 2013 at 12:49 pm

The church isn’t Catholic. FGM is not beyond the scope of Allegheny’s ReproCo.

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543 catbird February 21, 2013 at 11:53 am

There is nothng in Scripture concerning mastrbation, it’s not even mentioned. Therefore Chrstians should confine their ministries to areas where God does offer specifics:

Matthew 5:28-29; Jesus forbids sexual fantasies which are essential to the act of mastrbation.

Ephisians 5:3; Paul advised his brothers that there shold not even be a hint of sexual immorality among then because it could cause someone to miss salvation and spend an eternity in hell.

Romans 6:13; Paul says that none of us should offer any parts of body to acts of wickedness but our whole body as a living sacraficse to Jesus who died for us so that we might have life everlasting.

This “Chaplain” may be a “clergy” for some type of gnostic cult but is clearly not a Christian.

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544 Adam Robb February 21, 2013 at 11:53 am

You can’t fix stupid

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545 James Gaines February 21, 2013 at 11:53 am

These people are just fucking stupid. There’s no other explanation They have a specific desire to insult others to the greatest degree possible. Elitist snobs, petty personalities, and just downright deplorable people.

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546 preacherteach February 21, 2013 at 11:55 am

Have we gone mad? I know of no one on earth that needs encouragement to participate in self gratification. I was told as a youngster it would make you blind in hopes I would not injure myself due to high frequency. As luck would have it, i did lose sight in one eye. Dad was right!

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547 pat February 21, 2013 at 11:56 am

this is what feminism is about? Have at it losers….and expect to raise your kids alone

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548 Taras Balderdash February 21, 2013 at 11:57 am

Cicero said it best: O tempora o mores!

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549 Sharon Talerico February 21, 2013 at 11:58 am

Disgusting!

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550 Tony Johnson February 21, 2013 at 11:58 am

America is going the direction of early Rome. We are being destroyed from within and it’s only a matter of time before God reigns down judgement on us. America has become the new Sodom and Gomorrah.

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551 portle44 February 21, 2013 at 11:59 am

This probably did less damage than when the liberal arts faculty tries to teach history and economics

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552 boB February 21, 2013 at 12:00 pm

One of the few times Jesus showed anger was when they had gambling tables inside the temple. This just smells of intolerance and disregard to religious sensibilities. Why didn’t they have it inside a Mosque? I think we all know why…

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553 Gabby Johnson February 21, 2013 at 12:00 pm

I seem to recall that some not so groovy cats in Babylon were fried like so many mozzi sticks for playing around in temples and having a general Bacchanalia with the temple goblets, etc….

I gotta wonder. I mean, I hate to repeat other statements below, but: YOU REALLY NEED PERVERTS TO TEACH YOU HOW TO PLAY WITH YOURSELVES??? YOU REALLY DO?????

So then, the general level of ignorance now goes all the way to the individuals complete lack of personal awareness and understanding…for some, obviously not for all.

I mean, there is so much that is wrong with this. Such a no-brainer. What filth. What stupidity. What puerile nonsense.

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554 bloodaxe February 21, 2013 at 12:01 pm

The leftist liberal rats are the meanest, nastiest, most vicious assholes I’ve ever had the misfortune to meet. Piss on every damn one of them.

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555 apex February 21, 2013 at 12:53 pm

interesting comment…apparently pissing on people isn’t mean, nasty, or vicious…

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556 bloodaxe February 21, 2013 at 12:58 pm

I guess it would be all of the above. Keep in mind I’m a very bad dude. So it should be beneath you to even read my comments. GFY.

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557 sindexter February 22, 2013 at 5:27 am

AAAAWWWWW does it hurt that people mock you for following 2000 year old fairy tales that are supported by no evidence , cry me river . And remember ‘Blessed is the mind to small to doubt’

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558 Juan Tomatoe February 21, 2013 at 12:02 pm

One question: would they do this in a mosque?

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559 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 12:12 pm

If there was a mosque that said yes then absolutely. We got permission to use the space from the school and the chaplain. Religion had nothing to do with it.

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560 heather February 21, 2013 at 12:02 pm

To:
Allegheny College Reproductive Health Coalition
Please contact:
Syria Temple Syria Mosque
1877 Shriners Way
Cheswick, PA
(724) 274-7000
to arrange a female orgasm seminar. Oh wait, most muslim women are clitorectimized and cannot have any orgasm at all. Why don’t you run a seminar at the mosque on this topic?

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561 Mel Content February 21, 2013 at 12:24 pm

“Why don’t you run a seminar at the mosque on this topic?”

Good question but here’s the reason: lefty progressive liberals hate mainstream American society more than they hate militant Islam because they are rampant narcissists. If you have ever met a narcissist, you would realize that in their minds the world revolves around them, and the “worst people in the world” (to paraphrase Olbermann, who is a prime example of this type of behavior) are these people’s personal opponents.

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562 james thomas February 21, 2013 at 12:03 pm

Why is anyone surprised? Of course the location was chosen on purpose to be as offensive as possible.Don’t they have a health center or where they send the girls for their abortions? It is a reminder of the fact college costs are rising at obscene rates , while the rigor and value of the content falls at the same rate.Take solace, the higher education model is illusionary and unsustainable and within 15 years over half of all colleges and state universities will be bankrupt and we can apply some sanity.

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563 no you can't February 21, 2013 at 12:04 pm

this has to be an Onion story…

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564 Michael Mason February 21, 2013 at 12:04 pm

This is the left and what they bring to a society….nice huh?

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565 Dave February 21, 2013 at 12:41 pm

For only $42k a year, a kid can go to AC and get this great education.

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566 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 4:22 pm

For $45 a year, students get one of the most highly praised and difficult educations in the country. We’re not Ivy League but the course materials are always engaging and force students to think.

This was merely an extracurricular event that students had the option of going to had they wanted to.

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567 Beiletti February 21, 2013 at 12:05 pm

Well this is what I have to say about it. On the final day of judgement you will stand before your Creator and be questioned at that time judgement one you will be declared. Remember you will stand alone and no lying can be done. Hopefully you will make it past that judgement day. Until then your gift from your Creator is FREE WILL!!!!! Use it wisely!!!!

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568 apex February 21, 2013 at 12:52 pm

nutjob.

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569 Liutas February 21, 2013 at 12:06 pm

What – no other location at a college to hold a ‘seminar’? Clearly, this was a taunt by holding it in a chapel, of all places. The chaplain is a twit and should be fired. The other thing is who is behind these ‘female orgasm seminars’ at campuses nationwide? This is clearly organized to further crumble civilized society’s foundation. Every good parent should withdraw their children from schools such as this.

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570 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm

Over 200+ students showed up. Only a handful of spaces on campus fit that many people. All other available spots had been taken.

Absolutely no disrespect was meant to the church.

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571 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 12:33 pm

SO, your reasoning is that if a large number of people show up, that makes it valid? I’ll tell you what is valid — a large number of parents and their children NOT showing up at Allegheny.

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572 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 4:23 pm

No but we also needed a safe space that allowed for fluid talking. Ford allowed for that. It’s unlikely that this one event will have really any effect on parents and students. Maybe a couple will want to leave but most students were either neutral or thought positively about this event being held on campus.

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573 axemole February 21, 2013 at 9:30 pm

and that justifies offending the beliefs of Catholics and Jews?

574 Dave February 21, 2013 at 12:40 pm

I’d bet my bottom dollar that there was a good amount of giggling about the fact that you were in the chapel. I bet you could have cut the disrespect with a knife.

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575 motherofdragons February 21, 2013 at 2:56 pm

You do realize that people in college are typically legal adults and can make their own decisions?

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576 heather February 21, 2013 at 12:06 pm

Ironic: Muslim women can’t orgasm at all due to brutal clitorectomies. Over 98% of Egyptian women are clitorectimized, a procedure done in the West (rampant in UK and probably in USA too). Left: No comment.

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577 M Talam February 21, 2013 at 12:07 pm

You just have to keep asking yourself – why do we spend money on cr*p like this while students aren’t learning how to be successful and contribute in a meaningful way to their family and society as a whole? How far can we depend on teachers and educating professional to dumb down these immature students? (Answer hint: no limit)

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578 Michael Mason February 21, 2013 at 12:08 pm

Is anybody calling the school president and asking why this is being allowed?

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579 Dave February 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm

Hopefully they have some decent and respectful alumni, and the administration is in panic mode right now.

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580 stesse February 21, 2013 at 12:08 pm

Weinberg misrepresents the story of Onan in the Bible (Genesis 38:8-9). It is not about “self pleasuring.” Nor did the man did refuse to sleep with the woman in order to produce offspring for his deceased brother. He pulled out before ejaculation while having sex with his brother’s widow. Weinberg is a false teacher bringing unholy and unclean things into a sanctuary.

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581 Michael Mason February 21, 2013 at 12:09 pm

But if you were to tell these people that marriage is a man and a woman they would try to burn the church down. Mental illness on the left.

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582 elpresidente February 21, 2013 at 12:09 pm

You need an college instructor to find your “G” spot? I can imagine what this generation will be called.

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583 motherofdragons February 21, 2013 at 2:55 pm

Probably the most sexually satisfied generation yet. Jealous yet?

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584 elpresidente February 22, 2013 at 1:02 am

I have a partner, a real person that satisfies me…..jealous yet?

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585 ShineNotBurn February 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm

Alter boys are ok for the Catholic priests…but some sex ED isn’t?
What a hipocrazy!

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586 bob February 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm

what a disgraceful chaplain only in name jane ellen nickel. beware of false prophets who claim to be people of god

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587 DaveLCAC February 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm

What a sick group of reprobate people. Pennsylvania has lost its way and is increasingly guided by liberal organizations that are antithesis to the values of its founder william Penn.

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588 Jack Frost February 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm

Obama should have been a guest speaker…. he is about the biggest jerkoff I can think of.

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589 ShineNotBurn February 21, 2013 at 12:13 pm

CUM ALL YE FAITHFULL!!

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590 Dave February 21, 2013 at 12:13 pm

I for one, appreciate and would like to thank the administration of Allegheny College. Within the next week, millions of Americans will see this example of the idiocy that occurs at overpriced bastions of leftism, a/k/a the majority of America’s colleges and universities. There’s a reason that tuition has risen 10 times faster than inflation and so many ignorant young people have sacrificed their financial futures for higher ed: incompetent liberals.

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591 EMPORERSNAKED February 21, 2013 at 12:14 pm

Miller and Weinburg nothing more that evangelists bringing their “interpretations” so their religion: Hedonism can grow in numbers and disciples. Too bad they are tragically stupid to ubnderstand ther outcomes (asleep in Psych classes?)

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592 chuck schumacher February 21, 2013 at 12:15 pm

God Help us…These Administrators are only symbols of the decadence that is sweeping our culture. We need Jesus not “secular chaplains” proclaiming something they obviously aren’t! Chuck

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593 bill c February 21, 2013 at 12:15 pm

Truly sad, the college shouild forgo calling this a chapel,because the Holy God truly cannot condon such unholy activities, in his house of worship. The truth is that many of these institutions, in this part of our country, has long ago neutralized any hope of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The only form of religion they aspire to attain, is a psuedo intellectual type system, that helps them justify thier unholy actions. It is easy to twist certain scriptures to placate their unholy thoughts and deeds. Progressive thought typically leads one down a wide and easy path to eternal destructionn. Sorry, that those amoung you, who may really want salvation, probably will be blinded by the lies, those false teachers around this place offers.

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594 nilofc February 21, 2013 at 12:15 pm

DESPICABLE. Truly, this “educator” doesn’t know the bible… she is essentially saying… the bible doesn’t matter..it’s up to your “conscience”. I wonder if she thinks the same with terrorists killing innocent civilians since their conscience also dictates they were doing the right thing. Disgusting…that this happened inside the church.

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595 kittrock February 21, 2013 at 12:16 pm

going down the fallopian tubes fast, folks. enjoy the decadence while you can because it is not going to end orgasmically- trust me!

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596 heather February 21, 2013 at 12:18 pm

Today’s high school graduates cannot pass a 6th grade math test from 1886. Today’s college graduates (from leftwing institutions) cannot pass 2nd grade US Civics.

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597 Truth Sayer February 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm

This is fkg gross and totally fkd up. Burn these so called educators at the stake

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598 James Longdrycreek Ranch, TX February 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm

This event is in keepiing with the onset of “The Sensate Culture” anticipated by 1
Pitrim Sorokiin in his “The Crisis of Our Age” [1941] and updated in Harold O.J. Brown’s
“The Sensate Culture” [1996].
A sensate culture always comes to an inglorious end; this culture will fare no better.

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599 BurnAtTheStake February 21, 2013 at 12:19 pm

What a disgrace. I would bet $1000 that the “Catholics” who run this college are of the homosexual pederast variety. If you live in this area, and there are unsolved cases of child molestation or homosexual rape of children, I would look FIRST at the faculty of this criminal, apostate, heretical “catholic” university.

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600 Dave February 21, 2013 at 12:35 pm

It is not a Catholic university. It was associated with the Methodist church, but is now non-denominational.

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601 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:03 pm

BurnAtTheStake can send that $1,000 he lost to NAMBLA. They give receipts, and crabs!

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602 Mel Content February 21, 2013 at 12:20 pm

I am for all practical purposes a atheist yet I’m even offended by this blatant act of disrespect for people’s personal beliefs. We all know damn well that the same people who see no problem with this would also be the same people screaming and protesting in the streets if somebody else dared offend their Politically Correct notions. Liberalism is nothing more than the official institutionalization of malignant narcissism in society.

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603 Lino February 21, 2013 at 12:21 pm

This is a free country. They can do anything they well please. I just can’t understand why the choice of venue seems to be limited only to Christian churches. I would admire them even more if they will hold the same session in a mosque.

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604 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 4:19 pm

It’s not a Christian church but a nondenominational space on our campus. It’s as much a mosque as a church considering that all types of faiths practice there.

And Ford was actually our last choice as a venue. The event was booked and partially paid for by the time we realized that no where else on campus was available.

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605 axemole February 21, 2013 at 9:27 pm

Somehow you think that the chapel being your last choice of venue justifies your action… somehow I believe you don’t have a clue of why you are getting all the heat now for your decision… somehow you seem not to understand how offensive it is to host a seminar entitled: — fill in the blank — on a place where many religious groups meet to host ‘sacred’ liturgies and prayers… somehow the immense ignorance of this decision is now being thrown some light so that you may understand how insensitive, disrespectful and offensive your way of thinking is. Hopefully the College will grow up or mature in this respect.

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606 Frank Tomasic February 21, 2013 at 12:21 pm

wonder why they didnt ask the local mosque to hold their filth summit there…hmmmm???

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607 Templar8 February 21, 2013 at 12:23 pm

Is it any wonder why college graduates know so very little about the world and are so unprepared upon leaving school.
I have talked to graduates who didn’t know what Pearl Harbor Day meant. Who couldn’t place the Civil War in the right century. Who couldn’t name two of our first five presidents. But, by Golly, they are going to know how to masturbate. Gives you a nice warm feeling doesn’t it? Also helps one to understand their election preferences too.

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608 AlleghenyAlumna10 February 21, 2013 at 12:45 pm

Worth noting that it wasn’t an event for course credit. It was an elective event that students could choose to attend or ignore, and it had no effect on their actual coursework. Allegheny offers a wide variety of speakers and educational programs, and it is unfair to assume that the one that makes the news is the only one offered.

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609 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:12 pm

You dropped $160k to immerse yourself in liberalism? You should have just gotten a job at a coffee shop or something.

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610 AlleghenyAlumna10 February 21, 2013 at 6:01 pm

Scholarships, friend. I came out of college debt-free. Those of us who immerse ourselves in “liberalism” also believe in hard work.

And for what it’s worth, I *did* have a job at a coffee shop.

Now what?

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611 axemole February 21, 2013 at 9:22 pm

Credits, not credits, ‘educational event’ or not… those are irrelevant… you said… “it is unfair to assume that the one that makes the news is the only one offered???”… fyi: the immense lack of discernment made evident by the venue chosen by those in charge to host this seminar entitled: — fill in the blank — on a chapel where many religious organizations gather to celebrate their ‘sacred’ liturgies, THAT is what is unfair, scandalous, borderline incompetent… the collateral damage is just a consequence of such ignorant, disrespectful, offensive a decision.

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612 moron24 February 21, 2013 at 1:15 pm

This is a really short sighted and stupid comment. Yeah, college grads are all stupid! I know this because I’m so smart.

Hope you never have to see a doctor, asshole.

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613 Syrin February 21, 2013 at 12:24 pm

But ask ANY of these college idiots to name any of the following: Hayek, Friedman, von Mises, etc. and you’ll get blank stares. Oh well, at least we know they are less than 4 years removed from the Obamanomics induced unemployment lines with tens of thousands of dollars of student debt. At least they can masturbate in line.

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614 Thorien February 21, 2013 at 12:48 pm

But they know about that guy who wrote the German book, what’s his name. Marx! Yeah. He like, cared about workers and fairness. And fairness is good. What? No – what kind of a name is Pol Pot?

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615 Michael Mason February 21, 2013 at 12:24 pm

The left has a fascination with sex and looting other peoples money. It is so hard to be a leftist….funny that when these people gain power everything implodes.

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616 Dave February 21, 2013 at 12:25 pm

The group that hosted this event, Reproductive Health Coalition, is an ally of Planned Parenthood. Go figure.

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617 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 12:36 pm

Why not? They provide us with condoms and information packets (some of which talk about staying abstinent) to give to students, which they take willingly.

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618 Almerin O'Hara February 21, 2013 at 12:39 pm

Allegheny — you, who developed the IDEA (diversity, etc.) program a couple years ago and who are, this month celebrating Black History Month — congratulations for that — but I wonder how many people know that Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, described black people as “human weeds” and started P.P. as a means of curtailing their propagation. Read Chapter 8 of her biography, aptly entitled, “Human Weeds.”

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619 Dave February 21, 2013 at 12:57 pm

The head of PP said she has no problem with parents using abortion for gender selection, i.e., terminating unborn babies b/c they are female. How does any womens’ rights supporter back this group?

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620 Moe Zulu February 21, 2013 at 12:25 pm

How about we have this in the Mosque next time?

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621 RowdyYates February 21, 2013 at 12:28 pm

Lord have mercy! These blasphemous morons have indeed gone blind and crazy. But hey, while they’re defiling the sanctuary of God with slobbering lust, why not go the extra mile and invite Jeremiah Wright to stand and curse America a few times for the invocation. Or how about Moochell giving some eye-winking, naughty twists to her “Let’s Move” program for kids? God save us from these heathen Philistines before they try to marry our daughters!

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622 sabercat February 21, 2013 at 12:29 pm

just another article that reinforces recent studies about the dumbing down of america

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623 Jeff McMahan February 21, 2013 at 12:29 pm

Is nothing sacrosanct anymore?

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624 grumpyank February 21, 2013 at 12:30 pm

Not surprising that liberal students need masturbation tutorials. ;)

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625 GodProtectAmerica February 21, 2013 at 12:31 pm

Can’t blame the Catholic Church on this one, can you? Bet all you liberals are SO disappointed. This article will be praised by your god, the social media and Obama. You will say it is “Constitutional” under “Freedom of Speech”. Perverts.

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626 No Need for Quotes February 21, 2013 at 12:52 pm

Well, it is Constitutional freedom of speech.

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627 Sam February 21, 2013 at 2:01 pm

What is it? Sign language? Didn’t know that was protected.

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628 ilwoo February 21, 2013 at 12:34 pm

This is outrageous and offensive.

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629 Soop February 21, 2013 at 12:35 pm

And people wonder what is wrong with this country.

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630 agreatsign February 21, 2013 at 12:35 pm

Just wondering how long the American public is going to tolerate the progressive movement defecating on our foundations?

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631 Steve Neely February 21, 2013 at 12:35 pm

Masturbation is what college is mostly about these days. It was bound to cum to this. Oh, sorry, I meant “come”, didn’t I?

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632 john February 21, 2013 at 12:36 pm

Who is sitting around one day and thinks THIS is a good idea?

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633 Roger Bouws February 21, 2013 at 12:40 pm

Our Morals in this country are Gone!
What a shame….once the greatest Christian Nation is now a sexual joke!

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634 Gary Jones February 21, 2013 at 12:40 pm

Is there really any hope left for this country when all manner of decency is extinct?

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635 walt kaiser February 21, 2013 at 12:41 pm

Read this and was embarrassed that it was in PA, wth, like I said on another post, this country is in the toilet and the libs are pushing the flusher.

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636 Johny Shitheads February 21, 2013 at 12:42 pm

Just guessing but I would bet if they were giving a seminar on safe gun handling or choosing the proper holster for your weapon the University would have a different set of talking points on why it is not appropriate. So a seminar on how to handle your penis or dildo is good but how to properly handle your weapon would be bad would be met with protests.

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637 renojmc February 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm

Further proof that liberalism is a mental disease.

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638 MrLogical February 21, 2013 at 12:43 pm

The cultural Marxists are winning. The “long march” began 90+ years ago and was given added impetus by the Frankfurt School in the mid-late ’30s when they began to insinuate themselves into America’s colleges and universities as well as media and even religious institutions. Now, they effectively control all of these foundational institutions and they have even placed one of their own in the White House.

God help the United States of America.

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639 audaxrex February 21, 2013 at 2:44 pm

cut’n’pasted from Glenn Beck?

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640 Destroy All Morons! February 21, 2013 at 12:44 pm

i just have to ask if students who aren’t smart enough to jack themselves off are smart enough to be allowed to live and breed?? You really can’t get any more pathetic, can you? ps – phuk your self-esteem, loser!

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641 Thorien February 21, 2013 at 12:45 pm

Aren’t there videos for this kind of thing that you can buy in a windowless store or download and then watch in your room with the door closed? Is it really necessary to, I assume, spend student fees on something you can figure out yourself?

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642 MrLogical February 21, 2013 at 12:46 pm

Ever wonder why Obama wants to have universal Pre-K education?

“Give us the child for 8 years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.” – Vladimir Lenin

One more year of Marxist indoctrination.

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643 dimitri February 21, 2013 at 12:46 pm

desicration of holy ground….talking about sex for educational purposes can be done in a classroom if this university has any….selling sexual items on church grounds is also immoral…the fact that this ‘minister’ does not respect the sanctity of church grounds makes me wonder to what exent he has been morally corrupted. no wonder why islam views the united states as inferior…certainly by many moral measurements we are substandard…..this being one example.

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644 Dave February 21, 2013 at 12:54 pm

This “minister” allowed a student group openly affiliated with Planned Parenthood to use the chapel. Shameful.

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645 mauloa February 21, 2013 at 1:25 pm

Reverend, minister does not make the person…just look at Rev. Sharpton or Rev. Jesse Jackson. True reverence for a higher being comes from actions, not politics, greed or pursuit of power.

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646 audaxrex February 21, 2013 at 2:43 pm

by your spelling and grammar it looks like you didn’t waste too much effort on that eddication stuff.

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647 MrLogical February 21, 2013 at 12:50 pm

Buyer’s remorse, anyone?

Remember every November: No more Democrats.

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648 democratsforever February 21, 2013 at 1:16 pm

Democrats currently lead in polls on nearly every important issue over Republicans, and Obama’s popularity is nearing a high.

Deal with it.

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649 sabercat February 21, 2013 at 1:46 pm

your comment only proves the recent studies that have come out, america is dumbing down.

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650 Sam February 21, 2013 at 2:06 pm

Just shows that none of you proglets are capable of thinking for yourselves. You are afraid to be individuals and need to hide in the supposed safety of your hive. Just a bunch of drones, all of you, and yet you all think you are so smart. You increasingly realize how worthless you really are and that you can never make it on your own. You need the safety of polls and other indications of group think to get by.

None of you have any clue just how pathetic and completely worthless you are. Sadly, the rest of us do see how sick you are and we are amazed by it.

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651 audaxrex February 21, 2013 at 2:41 pm

You protest too much.

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652 Rick Oaksford February 21, 2013 at 12:52 pm

God did not give women gift of authority in leadership. Women have different gifts. A small minority of women are so testosterone ridden that they believe themselves to be men as Janet Reno, or Janet Napolitano are. These poor women can be aggressive and dangerous when encouraged. Such women have gravitated to our churches and places of worship as well as is exhibited in the above article. The result of such failure in our leadership is attributable to our government schools and progressive courts. It is such interference in the natural order which has beaten men down so that males have lost their way.
There is a way a truth and a life that nothing on this earth can crush.

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653 audaxrex February 21, 2013 at 2:40 pm

Good to know you know what God thinks. That’s what they call heirotelepathy?

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654 Rick Oaksford February 22, 2013 at 12:44 am

He wrote a book for us.

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655 audaxrex February 22, 2013 at 5:02 am

…I’m pretty sure that book was written by mortals.

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656 neo polaris February 21, 2013 at 12:52 pm

Weinberg said…Oh nevermind, her name alone speaks worlds…

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657 kelly February 21, 2013 at 1:17 pm

what the hell is that supposed to mean? other than you’re an anti-Semite?

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658 GolfPro February 21, 2013 at 12:55 pm

Priest molestations and now this! Is this why the Pope took off? Jesus said I will not be back until there comes a great falling away first. Seems like it is in full swing by the swingers! Jesus also said “they that sow to the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption, but they that sow to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.” Better read it and believe it, then obey it.

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659 Interested February 21, 2013 at 3:07 pm

How are you at all comparing this to Priest molestation? That just seems silly.

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660 kestrel27 February 21, 2013 at 12:57 pm

Bet you dollars to donuts that the people putting this on and the people attending are all Obama tools and everyone of them votes Democrat religiously as many times as they can each election.

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661 Dave February 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm

The student group is affiliated with Planned Parenthood. Go figure.

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662 Confused February 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm

If you’re not going to support contraceptives, and are anti-abortion…that doesn’t make a lot of sense.

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663 Take Back Something or Other February 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm

Someone has donuts and tools on their mind…

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664 blah February 21, 2013 at 12:57 pm

She was actually correct about Onan and jerking off. Onan was struck dead because he refused to have sex with his wife’s widow and take care of her and her children, but as per usual liberals like this woman distort the passage and take it out of context. In the old testament what you see is a recurring theme of the laws being set up to care for one another. Back then they had no social security or pensions so the retirement for the elderly were their children, but if a widow has no children she has no one to take care of her, so the dead brother’s brother’s (not a typo) responsibility was to give her offspring for that purpose. Naturally, Weinberg says nothing about this but simply leaves everybody thinking the bible is a big animal orgy.

Furthermore, Weinberg says “masturbation is not a sin”. That is incomplete. The bible is SILENT on the issue of masturbation because it is a neutral act which can be good or bad depending on a person’s life circumstances and attitude. To make the message of the bible extremely abbreviated, think of it this way: is what you’re doing expressing love for other people? For example, if you could be out there mingling with women and showing care for them, and if you could be preparing for marriage by getting a college degree or building a business, then why are you jacking off? On the other hand, you don’t have to be neurotic about it. Just keep your eye on the ball, on a real, committed marriage relationship.

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665 blah February 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm

oops, i meant to say, he refused to have sex with his BROTHER’S widow….

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666 Just an American February 21, 2013 at 1:00 pm

Does anyone ever wonder why it is that liberal minded bigots never mess with the Islamic faith? Remember this saying: “Monkeys know which trees to climb”

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667 American Sentry February 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm

These people have to be Satanists.

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668 Robert Blum February 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm

Like Rome, the great Federal empire state won’t fall at once . . .but one piece at a time.

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669 Aaron1960 February 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm

The only way this kind of stuff stands is when you don’t shame them.

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670 rizzo29 February 21, 2013 at 1:01 pm

wondering if they dared doing that in a mosque,course not can,t offend islam

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671 TH090959 February 21, 2013 at 1:02 pm

They should have used the office of the Dean, the office of the administrator or even the student union. Why defile a church?

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672 ... for great justice. February 21, 2013 at 11:23 pm

Clearly, THAT was their intent.

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673 FreedomCzar February 21, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Hell won’t be hot enough for these folks.

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674 PDU February 21, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Wow, this is one of the colleges my daughter was looking at. This sure paints a different picture than the one their recruiters painted.

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675 mauloa February 21, 2013 at 1:22 pm

I don’t believe I would send a daughter or anyone to this college. Even if they didn’t “inbibe”…they would be labeled. Nasty thing to do you any young person.

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676 Mike Oxford February 21, 2013 at 1:10 pm

Welcome to Obama’s Amerika….

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677 AJ February 21, 2013 at 1:13 pm

God’s not real, fuck Jesus, if you don’t like it, don’t come here. Simple as that.

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678 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:09 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, I’d like you to meet AJ, the spokesman for modern “progressives” and probably a student at AC. Mom and Dad must be so proud.

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679 aJ February 21, 2013 at 2:19 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, I’d like you to meet conservative douche. You attack a college you’ve never been to hosting an event that you didn’t see at a building that is non-denominational and just because it doesn’t live up to your ‘Christian Standards’, everyone gets thrown under the bus, from the students, to the faculty, to the LGBT community. Fuck you sir, you’re an asshole.

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680 sb February 21, 2013 at 11:20 pm

If the article alone hadn’t put this school on the “Do not apply” list, this representative would have for sure.

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681 Dwight Daniels February 21, 2013 at 1:13 pm

Go do that at planned parenthood and they’ll have you arrested for costing them an abortion prospect.

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682 Ridiculous February 21, 2013 at 1:13 pm

Who cares? What a tempest in a tea pot. Everybody jerks off. Some of us are crippled with guilt over it, and others are thankfully living in the 21st century.

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683 Kelly February 21, 2013 at 1:13 pm

Not that anyone commenting here cares at all about facts or the truth, but as someone who graduated from this college, I’d like to inform everyone that this is a non-denominational building on campus. Any religious or non-religious ceremony can take place in the space.

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684 mauloa February 21, 2013 at 1:20 pm

I’m sure you spent your time far wiser when you were there!

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685 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:07 pm

It is a non-denominational CHAPEL. The couple who paid for its construction never would have imagined the demise of AC to this point.

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686 howmchbscnutak February 21, 2013 at 1:13 pm

Sounds about right…progressive parasites and the libtard minions have no shame.

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687 Scott February 21, 2013 at 1:14 pm

Mom would be sooo proud that I’m studying.

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688 Yachtspy February 21, 2013 at 1:15 pm

I bet they wouldn’t have put on the seminar in a Mosque. Instead, they pick a building where CHRISTIANS worship. Well, the trick in on them. God lives in the hearts of His followers, NOT in buildings. So, if their intent was to “slap” Christians, they didn’t slap me. I pray and worship with my actions and my life, NOT just in a building.
What ignorance these people people showed themselves to practice.

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689 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 4:12 pm

It’s a nondenominational space. Yes Christians worship there but so do a medley of other religions. And this was by no means a slap in the face to Christians. We needed a space large enough for 200+ students and there’s only a few on campus that can hold that many. All others were booked and unable to be moved around so our event had no where else to go.

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690 GolfPro February 21, 2013 at 1:16 pm

They that sow to the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption, but they that sow to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. Jesus Christ

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691 audaxrex February 21, 2013 at 2:35 pm

does that improve your handicap?

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692 jeffg February 21, 2013 at 1:16 pm

Why can’t a Liberal just leave people alone. they truly are a parasite!

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693 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:06 pm

They get off on being offensive to normal people.

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694 EdG1955 February 21, 2013 at 1:17 pm

Sounds like a good use for a building that is empty except for 2 or 3 hours on Sundays.

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695 SomeonePayingAttention February 21, 2013 at 1:18 pm

For those of us who have figured out that sex is a normal, healthy and NECESSARY part of life, this is not a big deal. Religion, the ‘faithful’ and religious dogma have made people ashamed for so long we’ve forgotten that this stuff is at the core of our existance in the first place. Sexuality drives almost every single aspect of your life; it’s what keeps us sustained as creatures, and it’s just about the most important thing next to breathing and eating.
It’s a shame that people are so scared of sex that they’ve allowed other people to tell them how wrong it is and how they should keep it concealed and taboo. I’d think church would be as good a place as any to help one another along with something so natural and pleasurable. But then, most ‘religious’ people are just to guilty to know how to deal with it.

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696 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:05 pm

Religious people like sex, too. God created us with the ability to love and have sex. However, you aren’t respecting Christians and their beliefs that sex ed does not belong in a chapel.

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697 CHUCK February 21, 2013 at 1:18 pm

PIGS

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698 Allen Forbes February 21, 2013 at 1:18 pm

“..Weinberg, describing her lifelong fascination with pleasuring herself.
“And some people figure it out earlier than that. Like preschool age. I
was part of that last category.”

The problems of our society would be greatly mitigated if most adults experienced a single solid year of total celibacy during their lives.

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699 mauloa February 21, 2013 at 1:19 pm

Romance is a thing of the past, just like balanced budgets, civility, pride of Country and a few other “use to be” important things that raised life above the beast!

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700 Bob Hall February 21, 2013 at 1:24 pm

I sure hope our tax dollars are not paying for this crap, but I suspect it is part of Obama’s stimulus plan…

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701 JonStarknight February 21, 2013 at 1:24 pm

Disgusting Heathens!

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702 Shagnasty1 February 21, 2013 at 1:26 pm

Aside from this being entirely inappropriate how can it be said today’s youth are so much smarter these days when they need instruction in this?

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703 Sasha Soetoro February 21, 2013 at 1:29 pm

$ $ $ $ $ $

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704 Lincoln Stern February 21, 2013 at 1:29 pm

Next weeks tutorial – Anal Fisting! Brought to you by the decadent left. Bottoms up everybody!

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705 AlleghenyAlumna10 February 21, 2013 at 1:30 pm

The last time Allegheny had this event, it was hosted in the political science building.

LIBERAL AGENDA EVERYONE PANIC.

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706 Mr.Reasonable February 21, 2013 at 1:36 pm

Again, just like the movie Idiocracy …. people did nothing but watch TV and masturbate all day. Amazing that parents spend their money sending children to these schools to get their worthless BAs. Ever see a picture of these two? You’ll understand why they know so much about masturbation. These courses are usually organized, promoted and “taught” by people that basically are looking to get into the pants of barely legal freshman college students. That’s the major motivating factor.

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707 DiscustedONE February 21, 2013 at 1:41 pm

People wonder whats wrong with the United States? Why not also teach about orgies, hooking up for sex? Hand out free condoms, vibrators, sex enhancement pills, Porno videos for instructional purpose, right there in Church.

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708 Randy Kitchens February 21, 2013 at 1:42 pm

I gather this class is about women getting really familiar with themselves. Guys have it a lot easier. Upfront, out in the open for ease of access. A little assistance is usually appreciated and women never need to study what a guy likes. Simple. Guys need to take this class, somewhere besides a church and divorce rates may go down further.

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709 Nimadan February 21, 2013 at 3:44 pm

“I gather this class…”

DUUUUHHH

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710 Randy Kitchens February 21, 2013 at 4:08 pm

dimitri, my statement is for for the illiterate who cant seem to fathom what the article was about that are commenting rather strangely. I was being sarcastic. DUUUUHHH right back atcha, LOL.

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711 ananomoose February 21, 2013 at 1:42 pm

My former town that I lived in for 30 years (1983-2010)–truly I am embarrassed by the explaination and the conduct of AC. Ford’s Chappel is beautiful non denominational place or WORSHIP–period

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712 canineok February 21, 2013 at 1:43 pm

1 Corinthians 6:18 ESV
Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body.

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713 I-RIGHT-I February 21, 2013 at 1:43 pm

In general squatters don’t make good men of God. That’s all you need to know about this story. That chapel is just a room where pagans meet to discuss the latest fads in going to hell.

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714 Abdul February 21, 2013 at 1:46 pm

Next time, host it in a Mosque.

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715 AJ February 21, 2013 at 1:53 pm

It’s a non-denominational space, fucktard, it’s as much a mosque as it is a church.

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716 Nimadan February 21, 2013 at 3:43 pm

Muslim would KILL them. You know it, I know it, even the idiot AJ knows it.

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717 AJ February 21, 2013 at 4:21 pm

Keep trying, dumbass.

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718 mary magdalene's wide set vag February 21, 2013 at 1:46 pm

exploring one’s sexuality is fine everyone. i used to get railed by jesus, peter, paul, and even everyday household items. one time i even fucked a camel

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719 cmdr-buzz-corey February 21, 2013 at 1:48 pm

This is the face of liberalism. Liberalism is a mental disorder.

NEVER expect a democrat to tell the truth.

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720 Br. Gabriel, OP February 21, 2013 at 1:51 pm

Impious, at the very least. God save us from the academe.

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721 David Overton February 21, 2013 at 1:52 pm

You cannot legislate morality. But someone should have beaten it into these godless pigs before they started defiling a Holy place…

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722 Sasha February 21, 2013 at 1:54 pm

Babylon–Part 2

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723 Dee February 21, 2013 at 1:55 pm

If need instruction on how to masturbate by the time you get to college odds are you aren’t smart enough for college in the 1st place. But then I guess you don’t need intelligence to learn what is being taught these days. Like how to yank your wank.

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724 cmdr-buzz-corey February 21, 2013 at 1:56 pm

This is the face of liberalism. Liberalism is a mental disorder. You are witnessing the destruction of a civil, moral society all brought to you by immoral liberals.

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725 Jeremy McCandlish February 21, 2013 at 1:59 pm

Allegheny College is tiny. They don’t have a lot of buildings…?

If this was going to happen it was going to happen.

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726 GuessWho February 21, 2013 at 1:59 pm

Ah, the Obama years. The darkest, most immoral, corrupt time of my country’s life. I’m a byzantine Catholic, to comprehend 51% of Catholics voted for Obama in 12′, and 54% in 08′ is almost too much to take – the man of open homosexuality, abortion, and immorality. Next up for this Chapel, homosexual weddings if they’re not already performing them.

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727 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:43 pm

I’m a Catholic. In my neck of the woods, we are conservative. We actually go to Mass weekly and pray. Those “Catholics” you mention are just social Catholics.

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728 el_polacko February 21, 2013 at 2:00 pm

what is it about sex that is ‘ungodly’ ?? if you believe that a god made us, then that god also created our sexual organs and made it pleasurable to use them. seems that most people who call themselves “christians” these days are just a bunch of nagging prudes.

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729 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:42 pm

You leftists get a kick out of offending normal people and calling them prudes. Respect and decency for other people, and reverence for God – these are punchlines of the leftists.

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730 Nimadan February 21, 2013 at 3:51 pm

All religions teach sublimation of sexuality. ALL OF THEM. If you don’t agree with that, fine; that’s your opinion. If you’re saying you didn’t know that, you need to shut up and learn something. But 50/50, you already know this; you’re just picking on Christians because like 90% of modern liberals, you’re a vicious anti-Christian BIGOT.

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731 BarrysHypocrisy February 21, 2013 at 2:02 pm

They must have some real dummies going to this college if they have to show them how to play with themselves………

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732 ralphie44 February 21, 2013 at 2:06 pm

welcome to the jeu world order

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733 mike February 21, 2013 at 2:07 pm

this story is worthless without pics…..

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734 Jesus Molested My Uncle February 21, 2013 at 2:10 pm
735 jimfolks February 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm

Please talking down or insulting Matthew does not help the issue. Matthew you must understand that we are a multi generational world. If these things interest you fine but they should not be on public display in a public church. It is distasteful at least and disgraceful.

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736 BadWhisky February 21, 2013 at 2:14 pm

Typical liberal, tring to teach somethingthat Humans have done for thousnands of years without a whimper of help.

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737 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:41 pm

Good point. I guess they have given up on any kind of personal initiative whatsoever.

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738 ObJoeB February 21, 2013 at 2:19 pm

A workshop on how to masturbate? How dumb are these college students?

So much for teenagers/early 20s knowing everything.

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739 Rudy Wright February 21, 2013 at 2:20 pm

I recall when a Carpenter from Nazareth named Jesus, cleared a temple that had been defiled by people doing things that should not be done in a house of God. See John 2:13-22. Don’t think this will go unnoticed by Him, or His Father.

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740 TugIt February 21, 2013 at 2:22 pm

They explained how obama is masterbating the entire country with a dry rub and he doesnt even have the decency to use baby oil. Some say obama is more violent than that and that he is forcibly tucking it up America’s collective azz with no baby oil or lube. Obama’s action will hurt

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741 Fred Smith February 21, 2013 at 2:23 pm

Next time host it in the college Islamic prayer room and see what happens!

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742 Tom Masters February 21, 2013 at 2:25 pm

Did these morons pass “How to tie your shoe” also?

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743 rennyangel2 February 21, 2013 at 2:26 pm

Was this “lesson” in the parents’ bill? Do they know their tuition goes for this nonsens? But if students wanted to hold a Christian club meeting the the church, odds are the college would shriek with outrage.

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744 motherofdragons February 21, 2013 at 2:53 pm

Interestingly enough, many of the students who attend this institution pay their own bills with little or NO help from their parents. Outrageous to think that people would actually WANT to pay for an unbiased education about their OWN BODIES! And another interesting tidbit, the chapel holds both Roman Catholic Mass and a non-denominational service weekly. So yeah, your wild speculations about a school that you don’t even attend aren’t really worth anything here.

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745 Dave February 21, 2013 at 3:12 pm

$160,000 to learn how to masturbate? Instead of this sex ed class, they ought to be talking to these kids about personal finance.

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746 motherofdragons February 21, 2013 at 3:39 pm

Are you really so ignorant as to think that this event is representative of all of the learning that occurs on Allegheny’s campus? This event was held as just that, a simple campus event that enough students wanted to have. It was not a class and was totally optional. And Allegheny does offer resources to help students with personal finance. So please, stop getting your boxers in a bunch. It’s a waste of your time as well as mine.

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747 rennyangel2 February 21, 2013 at 3:52 pm

Oh, BS. As a prof myself, I know no one wants this “unbiased” krap. Just the lefties who love attacked conventional morality and any kind of tradition. And if students aren’t smart enough with today’s net, publications, and interpersonal instructions to discover sexuality, they aren’t smart enough to be in any college.

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748 punisher February 21, 2013 at 2:29 pm

and jesus said that the gates of hell shall not prevail against my church amen

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749 cecil91 February 21, 2013 at 2:30 pm

Choking Gophers 101. Lord have mercy. What next?

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750 whattim February 21, 2013 at 2:30 pm

Yes, it is much better to have Catholic priests raping little boys than this sort of thing. i love how people spin things.

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751 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:40 pm

Who is spinning here? Who said molestation was OK?

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752 whattim February 21, 2013 at 2:51 pm

people are saying Liberals are hurting our country and the church by doing such things in a church building. They are doing it in the open and not hiding it. Just more propaganda from fake conservatives

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753 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:58 pm

It’s a crime, a sin, and wrong when a priest, teacher or anyone molests a kid. It’s insulting, irreverent, and an affront to Christians when idiots host a sex ed lecture in a Church. How does the existence of the wrongdoing in either of these two sentence excuse the other?

You are obviously unable to think clearly. I.e., you are a liberal.

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754 whattim February 21, 2013 at 3:08 pm

i am neither Republican or Democrat, I do not need people to think for me. For more than 100 years priests have been molesting children and it is usually swept under the rug and ignored by the same people who go to church. These people, which i do not agree with, are doing it in the open and not hiding anything. i would rather deal with people who are open than people who hide crimes against kids.

755 Leland Williams Jr. February 21, 2013 at 2:30 pm

This university better not be getting any Federal or State Tax money. We’ve had it with this malarkey.

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756 William Mc Burney February 21, 2013 at 2:30 pm

And the country thinks Obama is all the problem ? And regardless how theses uneducated idiots. clergy , politicians want to qote scripture and add their understanding to it no one can deny that the Fall Of Rome will repeat its self right here as it is all happening in the world today anyway. More diseases on the way kids enjoy.

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757 johnnyc February 21, 2013 at 2:31 pm

Are you *kidding* me? We are done.

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758 Twilliam February 21, 2013 at 2:32 pm

What kind of dundering fool doesn’t know how to masturbate?

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759 Lucy February 21, 2013 at 2:36 pm

I was catholic. I would never send my children to catholic school . Just like notra dame covered the statues for the so called president ,I feel the church is nothing but a hypocritical church. Jesus would be ashamed.

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760 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:37 pm

Look everyone, I’m sorry… I’m just a little touchy because I was molested by a priest when I was younger, and thats the ONLY sex that should be present in a church (even though this wasn’t held at a church!) I’m sorry that I’m so ill informed and have no idea what I’m talking about, so I’m just going to walk away from this one.

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761 Hal Slusher February 22, 2013 at 12:33 am

That is really sad! However the choice to molest you was done by a wolf in sheeps clothing. There is a terrible curse connected to harming children. Better to have millstone around your neck and cast into the sea then to face the wrath of God for harming his innocent children.

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762 ColoMom February 21, 2013 at 2:37 pm

Here is yet another school my kids will not be attending.

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763 Nomy February 21, 2013 at 8:21 pm

If religion is important to you and believe that only men and women should be married…. please dont send your kid here. I am warning you.

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764 Gary Johnson February 21, 2013 at 2:39 pm

Bill Clinton guest speaker…..?

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765 tim ramich February 21, 2013 at 2:40 pm

This is indicative of this culture of self-gratification. Me, me, me! All that matters to people is doing what feels good. Are you a male who feels feminine? Don’t worry, some trendy doctor can mutilate your junk and turn it into some freak vagina. You will also legally be a female. Never mind the fact that you don’t have ovaries and a womb… I see shows on channels like TLC with people who have sex with their cars or males who think they are females who dress like babies. These shows are enablers. They refer to that thing as a she. I find myself yelling at the narrator “no, it’s a he!” That channel used to be called “the learning channel.” Sad.

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766 Leonard DiMarcello February 21, 2013 at 3:04 pm

Also now you can get that new surgery if you are female and want to become a male. I think they call it an addadictomy! not sure though

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767 Walt Pryor February 21, 2013 at 2:43 pm

Willows in the Wind. Bending to grovel at the feet of lust, and degradation, in the name of ????What? Secularism? Today’s immorality? What about tomorrow? All this shows one thing. These people do not know, nor do they fear God? They have been seduced by the Great Seducer! A tree is known by its fruit, Jesus said. What does this fruit say about there people?

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768 Shelby February 21, 2013 at 2:44 pm

I hardly see the issue here or why the program seems to be so controversial. Ford Memorial Chapel is a campus church in a place of academia that serves the needs of many religions. Why should it not be a place of open-mindedness and responsible learning? Allegheny College is not a place that favors one group’s opinions over another’s.

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769 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:45 pm

The word is “church”. The problem is one of disrespect.

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770 AJ February 21, 2013 at 2:45 pm

Because talk like that is logical, and logic waved ‘bye-bye’ to these people a long time ago.

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771 Dave February 21, 2013 at 2:48 pm

So, Colomom, in your world of open-mindedness, would anything be inappropriate for discussion in a chapel? What about abortion training for med students? Or, how about some Satanic rituals? Are those kind of things what the Fords had in mind when they gave AC this chapel?

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772 AJ February 21, 2013 at 3:06 pm

a) We’re not a medical school. And b) Sure, as long they didn’t damage the property… it’s all fiction anyway. I’ll make sure I don’t read ‘Humpty Dumpty’ to anyone inside Ford to make you happy though, since apparently you only care about Christian fiction.

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773 Dave February 21, 2013 at 3:09 pm

I guess we shouldn’t expect you to care about the original intentions of Mr. and Mrs. Ford, who donated the money to build this chapel. I mean you are a liberal who thinks they “didn’t build that”, and that liberals know best how to use other peoples’ money.

774 Niamdan February 21, 2013 at 3:22 pm

DESECRATE A SYNAGOGUE… and we’ll talk.

Or a mosque, lol.

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775 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 3:49 pm

Wow, I just figured out there are 2 Shelby’s on opposite sides of this issue. It’s like “Shelby-ception”.

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776 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 3:23 pm

How about open-mindedness about how using such a venue is offensive to those who believe in orthodox Christian doctrine and the Bible? Open mindedness should be reciprocal. As for “responsible learning”, that is a matter of perspective. I disagree with your interpretation of that term.

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777 Joe February 21, 2013 at 3:52 pm

You obviously have no idea what Christianity is and how the church is suppose to correlate with Christianity.

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778 Leland Williams Jr. February 21, 2013 at 2:45 pm

What a great Methodist College. Commitred to ‘diversity and sustainable environment’. Voted ‘in Top 20 schools’ by the Daily Beast and #41 LIB ARTS School by Washington Monthly. Really progressed under President James Mullen who said in his inaugural address ““This is a place that knows who and what it is, a place that
seeks excellence without elitism, a place that expands horizons and takes
students further faster than they ever thought possible, a place that is confident
without arrogance, a place that always seeks to be better and stronger and more
attuned to the needs of its world, a place where rigor and excellence in the
classroom constitute more than rhetoric, they represent our core values —
values built and sustained by generations of teachers and scholars.”

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779 girlnextdoor February 21, 2013 at 2:45 pm

“My house is a house of worship…”, said Jesus. Not the worship of sex, money or anything other than God. Pick a different place if you must have someone “teach” you, this world is so tragical lost.

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780 Leland Williams Jr. February 21, 2013 at 2:47 pm

Forgot…Clarence Darrow is their most famous graduate…Scopes monkey trial that turned America into DARWINITE nation.

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781 noodles5 February 21, 2013 at 2:52 pm

Can these liberal professors get any worse in this country? This is what is teaching our children. These teachers are nothing but left wing perverts. How low can we go?

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782 Paige February 21, 2013 at 3:24 pm

But why is this perverted? Teaching healthy and safe ways to have sex and teaching women about their bodies when this information is so difficult to find…I don’t see your point. And it wasn’t “liberal professor” it was a group of people whose job it is to educate people about sex and sexuality.

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783 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 3:42 pm

It’s an issue of perspective. The objection is not the content. You may teach what you want. The objection is venue. A church is not merely an auditorium because it sits on a campus. Catholics understand a church is a space that has been consecrated to God. To host teachers promoting views that directly contradict and undermine the teachings of the church and to instead define behavior we regard as sinful as “responsible learning” is insensitive. Why is it so difficult for colleges and professors to apply the same standards of tolerance to Christians as they extend to Islam or LGBT groups? I believe it’s because they don’t take us seriously. It’s easy to claim you don’t understand our offense when you’re limited to viewing reality through a humanist prism that holds some measure of contempt for Bible believing Christians and Catholics. College profs are just as intolerant as those you label intolerant.

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784 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 4:03 pm

But this isn’t a sanctioned church. And we got permission from the Chaplain who knew exactly what was going to be held there. And we would have never used one of the churches in town that is actually sanctioned by a . Ford is a nondenominational space used by a medley of organizations. The program is also a lot more tame than what the article makes it appear to be. It talked a lot about finding inner body peace and making sure that the partner you have is one you are comfortable with.

The space was used with the utmost respect. It’s a bummer that the event had to be held there because of the controversy that has followed but if you were there you could have seen what a great event it was.

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785 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 6:08 pm

I’d be happy to give you the point that the article makes it sound worse than in was. I wasn’t there. Allegheny College was founded by a Methodist pastor and it seems logical that John Ford clearly would have been under the impression he was constructing a Christian church to honor his late wife. I bet there was even a special worship service at that time when the church building was consecrated–it was set apart for God’s use to bring him glory. In Christianity, you cannot separate Christ and the church. The church is the bride of Christ. They are inseparable. So the idea of a “sanctioned church” is a fictitious, man made social construct– a euphemism to explain that later school leaders decided that the building might be better used as a multi-purpose campus building, including one for worship. In Christianity, this human decision did not cease to make Ford Memorial Chapel a church. Humans may have functionally stopped treating it as a church, but it did not cease to be one. Understanding this point might make it easier to see how Christians could be offended by this seminar. Many of us regard some of the topics of that seminar as contrary to God’s understanding of holy sexual practice (as is child molestation by priests–which hundreds of people seem to love to mention on this loop).

Allegheny College is still listed on the General Board of Higher Education and Ministry’s website as being a “United Methodist-Related” college. Do you receive financial support from the United Methodist Church?

786 noodles5 February 21, 2013 at 7:29 pm

C’mon. If you want to teach people how to play with themselves you don’t do that kind of stuff in a church setting unless you happen to be one of the perverts. Don’t you have a sense of decency?

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787 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 11:36 pm

It wasn’t about learning how to masturbate though. Most of the talk was about how to achieve a healthy female sexuality and body image, how to have safe sex, both physically and emotionally/psychologically, and what to do if one is a victim of sexual abuse. The title was called ” I Love the Female Orgasm.”… not “How to Masturbate.”

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788 noodles5 February 22, 2013 at 8:54 am

Again, have you no sense of decency? Does this have to be done in a church setting? Learn how to have safe sex taught in a church. Love the female orgasm discussed in church. This is nothing more than our useless, liberal academia insulting the values of society. Disgusting activity that has no business being conducted in a place of worship.

789 duncan yun February 21, 2013 at 2:55 pm

this program is NOT sanctioned by the diocese of Erie.

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790 M. E. Wagner February 21, 2013 at 2:56 pm

I live in this town and had no idea this was happening. We are the county seat, but still a fairly small town, pop. roughly 13,000. The faith community here is fairly strong, but maybe that’s past tense. If the chaplain of this church sees no problem with hosting this type of program in a house of God, maybe a change of vocation is in order.

I would like to see some local outrage over this, but perhaps the rot goes deeper than I know. I am tired…

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791 Anthony Moncayo February 21, 2013 at 3:00 pm

Why not a mosque?

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792 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 3:56 pm

If there was a mosque on campus that could have held 200+ students it would have been considered. Ford was the last spacing choice but no where else on campus was free that could hold that many people.

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793 harleyman February 21, 2013 at 3:06 pm

Kate Weinberg should read the scripture she is quoting from. Onan was ‘pulling it out’, not masturbating.

6 Judah got a wife for Er, his firstborn, and her name was Tamar.

7 But Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death.

8 Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to raise up offspring for your brother.”

9 But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother.

10 What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death also.

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794 Nimadan February 21, 2013 at 3:20 pm

Di you actually think Whineberg gives a bleep about Scripture?

C’mon….

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795 coolercoleman February 21, 2013 at 3:06 pm

Liberal decay the first thing to go was their minds, now it’s their soul.

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796 Nimadan February 21, 2013 at 3:06 pm

“One Christian student, Shannon McAvinchey, 20, said the school’s student
government supported Christian groups on campus and were not trying to
intentionally offend Christian students by hosting the event in the
chapel.”

If she actually believes, she is one naive, little girl. The PC Left is a lot of things but it is not stupid. The desecration of the chapel is conscious, deliberate, & MALICIOUS.

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797 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 3:54 pm

Actually we(as in the member of ReproCo) weren’t. On our small campus there weren’t physically any other spaces available that night. Serious changing tried to be made but other events had the spaces they absolutely needed. Plus we got full permission from the school and Chaplain to host this event. We had no intention of using it without that.

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798 Dave February 21, 2013 at 4:18 pm

Getting permission from an idiot doesn’t make it right, ok or inoffensive. I read a story once about a porno crew who got permission to enter a high school for a Saturday film shoot.

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799 Sarah February 21, 2013 at 7:37 pm

Name calling really helps your argument.

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800 Jay Fitzgerald February 21, 2013 at 3:06 pm

Miller and Wineberg, my, my, my…surprise, surprise. Wonder how they would feel if someone did that in a Synagogue, it would be just as sacreligious, but they wouldn’t surprise me if that happened. Saturday Night Live did a horrible thing about Jesus, some people do not learn how to treat others with respect.

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801 Andylit February 21, 2013 at 3:07 pm

At some point the alumni need to step in. As in, cut off donations and make sure the administrators know why. This is a calculated, deliberate derogation of religion.

I’m an atheist, and this even makes me angry.

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802 Dave February 21, 2013 at 3:16 pm

As a Christian, I appreciate your intellectual honesty.

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803 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 3:43 pm

As stated earlier in these posts, the board of trustees (the ones with all the money) pushed for and got a fraternity back on campus that raped a girl to an inch of her life while they were in school. I by no means associate the new men in the fraternity with this act but how do you think the women of the campus felt when the school let them back?

The chapel was used as the nondenominational space that it is. The school and the chaplain were well informed what was going on there that night. It was by no means an attack on religion.

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804 Allegheny Student February 23, 2013 at 12:56 pm

The men didn’t feel much better–speaking as one. And the chaplain was lied to / misinformed about what was going on, actually. Don’t make claims you can’t verify.

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805 John Molea February 22, 2013 at 4:32 am

Same though Im more agnostic then pure atheist. There really HAD to be another place on a campus to have this event.

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806 Allegheny Student February 23, 2013 at 12:55 pm

No, there actually wasn’t. Not that you have any way of knowing that, because you don’t believe anything that doesn’t fall in line with your beliefs, and those you take without question.

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807 Tim February 21, 2013 at 3:08 pm

“So this primary anti-masturbation story is about this guy, Onan. … And Onan refused to sleep with his brother’s wife, so he spilled his seed on the ground — that’s how it’s defined — and for that, God struck him dead,” she said.

Hmmm. I wonder if Weinberg is a believer? If not, why does she care what the Bible says?

If she IS a believer, she needs to READ the Bible.

Jesus said…

“But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” Matthew 5:28

Masturbation is an act of lust. We are giving in to the desires of our flesh.

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808 just a person February 21, 2013 at 3:13 pm

the school is not based on religion and the chapel is used for many more events than religious one’s. the presentation was intended to be light hearted and more of a show than a “lesson”. Everyone in this discussion is a child for thinking down on the students at this small liberal arts college. there is nothing wrong with becoming more familiar with the body you have nor is there anything wrong with the location. it is not an attack on the church nor an attack on anyone’s belief.
Welcome to 2013, where the people are still as ignorant as ever.

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809 Antonia Duhe February 21, 2013 at 3:13 pm

Obama’s corrupt perverted world…welcome to the country of gay filth…dehumanising your children

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810 Dave February 21, 2013 at 3:22 pm

Obama wants to get them started even earlier.

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811 Trisha Doherty February 21, 2013 at 3:16 pm

People get paid for this..another example of how higher education had become a racket for the likes of weinberg. Who needs a real job when you can get paid to tell young idiots how to masturbate, as if every other generation hasn;t figured it out on their own..millennial’s must be utterly worthless myrmidons.

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812 Paige February 21, 2013 at 3:27 pm

But there has been a lot of issues in the past with misinformation and lack of education resources for sex…which happens in college, I’m not sure if you heard. These jobs are necessary and extremely beneficial to college students. I was happy to learn more about my body by well informed people whose job it is to educate me.

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813 achmed February 21, 2013 at 3:17 pm

I wonder if these progressive girl power students would be brave enuff to do this in a Mosque…..I didn’t think so. Gutless bra burners

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814 BoardMember February 21, 2013 at 3:39 pm

Had there been a mosque near with space for 200+ people then yes absolutely, with permission of course since we got permission from the school and Chaplain from Ford.

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815 Leonard DiMarcello February 21, 2013 at 3:21 pm

I think this is very benificial . When i was their age. I thought i was sprouting a carrot until it pissed on me .

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816 davedavis256 February 21, 2013 at 3:22 pm

Sex and masturbation are normal and everyone does it.

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817 Dave February 21, 2013 at 3:23 pm

Some things are inappropriate in a chapel.

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818 davedavis256 March 11, 2013 at 12:26 pm

Not necessarily, would you prefer that people learn about sex from porno magazines and other “smutty literature”?

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819 Dave February 21, 2013 at 3:25 pm

Mr. and Mrs. Ford probably never imagined that the chapel they built for AC would be used for these purposes. As is always the case, liberals come along, take control of something that someone else built, and ruin it.

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820 Gmama February 21, 2013 at 3:28 pm

Pathetic. As if there aren’t enough resources for students to figure out how to have an orgasm. How about hosting a seminar on how to get a job?

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821 motherofdragons February 21, 2013 at 3:51 pm

Oh, Allegheny does have plenty of seminars on how to get jobs. For some odd reason, coverage of those ones don’t show up on conservative news sites for random people to get outraged about… Weird, huh?

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822 jonmaxwell60 February 21, 2013 at 3:33 pm

A couple of weeks ago, i saw a kid on the train who couldn’t have been more than 12, WATCHING HARDCORE PORN on his iPad. Not sure where his parents were, but for all I know, they don’t even care. Messed up.

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823 IntellectOne February 21, 2013 at 3:33 pm

What filth! This kind of seminar is never necessary. What a bunch degenerates! Sex is a Sacred Gift from God reserved for a man and a woman that are committed to one another, completely mentally and physically, in bonds of a Sacred Marriage.

Going around touching people to get a rouse out of them. It sounds like something a pedophile or homosexual would do to children. This is in a Catholic Church? What the Hell is wrong with these people!

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824 Trudestress February 21, 2013 at 3:36 pm

Oh, how dare they talk about this dirty, nasty stuff in a church! Vulvas! Vaginas! How filthy! You’d think God created us with sexual organs and a capacity for pleasure!

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825 Jeremy Savage February 21, 2013 at 3:37 pm

They would never do this in a mosque. It’s just another blatant and overt swipe at Christianity.

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826 Nimadan February 21, 2013 at 4:01 pm

I used to be really anti-muslim ten years ago (after 9/11) and in some ways, I still am. You have to admit though: NOBODY messes with them this way.

The PC Left is always telling us, “You pathetic White people need to learn from the Third World”. Well, maybe they’re right. Say what you will about them, the allah-boys know how to handle liberal scum. Look what the mujahadeen did to them in Afghanistan. Look at how the ayatollahs handled the leftists in Iran.

Muslims don’t take any shite; Christians do. Until that changes, scum like Whineberg will keep spitting in our faces.

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827 Joe February 21, 2013 at 3:40 pm

You think this doesn’t anger god? Do you think these people will get away Scott free over what they have done. They won’t! The will suffer consequences at a time when god sees fit. In this life or the next.

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828 jonmaxwell60 February 21, 2013 at 3:41 pm

Your magic being in the sky (or so called god) should worry more about injustice in the world (starving, murder, poverty) rather than people talking about pee-pees and wee-wee’s.

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829 Joe February 21, 2013 at 3:42 pm

God only gives to those who are willing to receive.

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830 jonmaxwell60 February 21, 2013 at 3:52 pm

Oh so it’s the victim’s fault of injustice that god didn’t intervene. So your magic being in the sky is a huge asshole then. Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up.

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831 redhawk1 February 21, 2013 at 3:41 pm

Is Allegheny applying to the IVY League.. this sounds like a Test for Admission

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832 Joe February 21, 2013 at 3:41 pm

Our country should be ashamed for allowing this to happen in our church! DO YOU REALIZE HOW HORRIBLE GODS WRATH WILL BE UPON THIS COUNTRY IF WE DO NOT GET BACK ON A BETTER PATH? Prepare to suffer if you do not change!

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833 jonmaxwell60 February 21, 2013 at 3:45 pm

Your magic being in the sky (or so called god) should worry more about injustice in the world (starving, murder, poverty) rather than people talking about pee-pees and wee-wee’s. Either there is no god, or he is impotent and weak, or he’s a petty asshole.

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834 Joe February 21, 2013 at 3:48 pm

Have you ever considered that you may have misconceptions about god based upon your immediate split second judgement? God is complicated and he is best known as so if you actually read the bible. Maybe the true definition of God doesn’t correlate with the perception you want to have that makes you feel best. Read the bible and believe the one and only interpretation there is to know about god.

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835 jonmaxwell60 February 21, 2013 at 5:30 pm

What makes you think this an immediate split second judgement? My comment was actually based on the viewpoint of someone who grew up in church, went to seminary, and was briefly a youth pastor. My only regret with my comment is that in retrospect, I was being a bit of a jerk.

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836 Jon Galt February 21, 2013 at 3:42 pm

I wonder if they would try that in a Mosque? LOL. Already know the answer…

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837 Joe W February 21, 2013 at 3:43 pm

It seems that no one at the college was really offended about the venue so while “outsiders” can be “outraged” by this event, it really isn’t our call.
However, I think the problem here is not that everyone involved including the chaplin felt this event wasn’t offensive to anyone but, more importantly, they didn’t make an attempt to see if it would be. Church-goers, christians, religious-minded folks were never a consideration in the thoughts of all of those event planners who want to demonstrate their “tolerance” toward “forward thinking” groups. This is, once again, simply a case of a lack of common courtesy that never seems to include the feelings, beliefs or thoughts of those who have religious beliefs.

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838 Not with my Tuition Dollars February 21, 2013 at 3:45 pm

Well said!

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839 Joe February 21, 2013 at 3:45 pm

Blame the Western Church! Christianity amounts from little to nothing in the Western Society. The Western and Corrupt church is a mockery to true and pure Christianity.

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840 Thad February 21, 2013 at 4:22 pm

One sensible comment, thank you. I can agree with this.

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841 Sarah February 21, 2013 at 4:24 pm

What wasn’t reported in this that all other large space venues at the school were booked. Ford chapel is used for events and things other than religious services. It was not meant as a disrespect to people that worship there, and it was checked with the various religious groups on campus. So I don’t think it is fair to say that the event planners didn’t consider those who have religious beliefs.

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842 Dave February 21, 2013 at 5:01 pm

But leftists who do things like this forget that they rely upon people who are not living on campus. They rely upon alumni, parents of students, etc. It was offensive to many people, and they should have anticipated this.

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843 Sarah February 21, 2013 at 7:28 pm

It also wasn’t accurately reported, which made it seem even more offensive than it was.

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844 Dave February 21, 2013 at 5:00 pm

I think the better word is “civility”. We used to understand that Sally the Baptist or David the Jew might get offended by things we do or say, and not try to offend.

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845 Victor_Velo February 21, 2013 at 3:50 pm

Using God’s house to conduct a sex therapy session? How shameful! I left the USA nearly 10 years ago; I doubt I would recognize America if I should ever return.

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846 gardengnome132 February 21, 2013 at 3:52 pm

God help us.

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847 williamunknown February 21, 2013 at 3:53 pm

i wonder … if this had been a mosque … would the liberal left have protested against this?

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848 Joe February 21, 2013 at 3:54 pm

Of course, without a doubt! Judging by there track record and history.

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849 Dave February 21, 2013 at 4:58 pm

The lefties sure get upset when some frustrated American boy over in Afghanistan rips up a Koran.

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850 Dwain Meyer February 21, 2013 at 3:55 pm

Couldn’t they just issue the students a copy of Cosmo with their books?

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851 7thFleetVet February 21, 2013 at 4:01 pm

Is this what $100,000 tuition buys you these days? What a bunch of wankers.

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852 Dave February 21, 2013 at 4:57 pm

It’s $32k per year, plus room and board.

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853 Lloyd__Christmas February 21, 2013 at 4:02 pm

I find it ironic that we can pray in schools, but we can tell kids what
is and what is not a sin. I have two kids who attend this school…
they will not be returning next year.

Has anyone started to email the administration about this? It sure
would be nice to get a couple hundred people sending complaints and
shutting down their email server.

This school always promotes homosexuality, so I guess it shouldn’t
surprise me that they would stoop to this. You can have a Gay March,
but you can’t have a March to support straight students or any other
things that are not of liberal orientation.

Let’s pray for the students…
- Lloyd

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854 Joe February 21, 2013 at 4:05 pm

A Church that promotes Homosexuality? Ha! A typical Western Church!

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855 FuckYouLloyd February 21, 2013 at 7:38 pm

I find it ironic that you can’t write worth shit.

Wait, no I don’t.

Idiot.

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856 rose February 21, 2013 at 4:06 pm

I am sure there was not another empty room on the whole campus where they could have held this “tutorial.” It absolutely had to be in the chapel. All the more to add to the offensiveness. They are fooling no one. What a pathetic, childish display of ignorance.

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857 Joe February 21, 2013 at 4:08 pm

Even a nonreligious person with basic moral code should be repulsed by this. Absolutely no moral dignity these days in America. ZERO moral dignity…. it’s disgraceful

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858 Dave February 21, 2013 at 4:22 pm

I agree. They knew that, while they were not damaging the chapel, they were desecrating it. Another commenter here wrote earlier that the Altar at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris was desecrated by those enlightened leftists during the French Revolution.

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859 Allegheny Student February 23, 2013 at 12:52 pm

There actually WASN’T any other venue large enough. There are only a few spots that big, and all of them were taken. They originally tried to get the auditorium. What a pathetic, childish, display of ignorance.

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860 Thad February 21, 2013 at 4:12 pm

All of you hypocrites who pretend to know anything about morality, dignity, intelligence, etc. can get fucked. It’s all perspective. Just because some believes something different than you doesn’t make them any more right/wrong than you.

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861 7thFleetVet February 21, 2013 at 4:14 pm

I bet your mother’s are proud of you.

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862 Thad February 21, 2013 at 4:21 pm

I have a mother, a father, and a step-father… so whatever you intended, maybe you just have shitty fucking grammar and are an idiot, by the “mother’s” comment is irrelevant. Also, all of them are very proud of me…crazy right?

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863 Joe February 21, 2013 at 4:16 pm

Judging by your comment, was it alright for Hitler to kill the millions of Jews? Afterall you did say just because some believes something different than you doesn’t make them any more right/wrong than you, right?

Morality divides perspectives in to right and wrong and into what is acceptable and what is not acceptable!

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864 Thad February 21, 2013 at 4:19 pm

In Hitler’s mind, what he did was moral. I don’t agree, but my comment clearly states ideals and values are all based on perspective. I think Hitler was wrong, but he and his followers didn’t. Who are you to definitively tell others what is acceptable/not, btw? Slammed, thank you

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865 Joe February 21, 2013 at 4:26 pm

People are entitled to there own perspectives unless they are unmoral. I can tell others what is wrong and not wrong weather it feels good to them or not. For people need moral boundaries for the betterment of themselves and everyone around them. and when there is no moral regulation or boundaries from the result of weak mindedness bad things happen such as the falling demeanor of our country.

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866 Joe February 21, 2013 at 4:27 pm

and other horrible things that varies in extremities, such as what happened to the Jews.

867 nivekyaj February 21, 2013 at 4:12 pm

Really! This is approved of by adults! ^Those some call scholars… This article is bad enough… the parts that explain how to, probably could have been presented differently. It is terrible concerning the level the human race has digressed. the farther from God the people go, the lower man becomes in all areas of life. I hate being pulled down by the sub-human culture(s). Even basic morality has become a joke based on popular opinion, and it is viewed optional, at best by most people. It is embarrassing to think what this behavior must look like from a heavenly perspective. I am not God nor do I begin to think that I understand God, I will be so bold to say what I do understand from a Book He orchestrated the writing of; there is a clear picture of things of which He has great disdain of and things in which He takes great pleasure concerning His people. This kind of education is for immoral people, they have no faith in the Creator; their morality comes from their own pagan beliefs, clearly not the Holy Book the Bible.

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868 Thad February 21, 2013 at 4:16 pm

Not everyone believes, nor has to, in God and Christianity. It’s okay to have a different religion. It’s people like you that force your values on everyone else that give Christianity a bad name. And, that’s exactly why I come to denounce more and more everyday.

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869 Joe February 21, 2013 at 4:19 pm

When we talk about god to nonbelievers you perceive it as us forcing our opinions on you? You are victimizing yourself with your weak mindedness to even come close as to perceive that as forcing.

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870 Thad February 21, 2013 at 4:28 pm

I don’t find anything wrong with the Islamic religion/culture. You find extremists no matter what religion. People that become convoluted and will kill in the name of their religions/Gods aren’t just limited to people of the Islamic faith. Those radical Islamist’s take everything out of context. And you Rose are not simply talking or presenting facts. You are telling everyone who is right and who is wrong. You are asserting your religion is the only way to go. I personally believe in God, just not the same fairy tale Biblical portrait that you have allowed your weak mind to succumb to. Have you ever thought tales and stories in the Bible are allegory? That not everything is to be taken word for word? That man wrote the Bible and could have lied about the things that God told them? You’re the weak minded one my friend. Blind sheep.

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871 Dave February 21, 2013 at 4:35 pm

There was a time in America when most people understood that other people revere places of worship, and that certain things were inappropriate in them. This is called “civility” and it should be extended to others, whether or not you share their faith.

872 AJ February 21, 2013 at 4:38 pm

Bahah, the hypocracy! So you talking to non-believers isn’t forcing, but what about an atheist talking to you about god not existing? You’d be singing a different song… or, here’s an example, by your definition, talking about orgasms isn’t forcing immorality on Christians- so stop complaining!

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873 7thFleetVet February 21, 2013 at 4:20 pm

Do you denounce Allah and Islam?

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874 Dave February 21, 2013 at 4:32 pm

So, when some frustrated American kid in Afghanistan rips up a Koran, is that OK with you too?

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875 AJ February 21, 2013 at 4:34 pm

Thank you, Rose. Perfectly put. If everyone acted like this, the world would be a much better place.

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876 Dave February 21, 2013 at 4:38 pm

I’m a Christian. I’m also a civilized person. I would not pull a stunt like this in any chapel, or place of worship, regardless of the faith(s) practiced in it. The people here who can’t understand that are either outright evil or they are morally underdeveloped.

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877 Helios420 February 21, 2013 at 5:39 pm

I wear a hat in that church

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878 nivekyaj March 1, 2013 at 4:20 pm

So I am the reason you have come to denounce what? your eternal life with your Creator? I am one of the people who can be responsible for your choice… interesting. Of course not everyone agrees with me, but all should look to moral truth some where… I wonder what standard you use for moral judgement.. When you denounce Christian values what do you have left?

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879 Helios420 February 21, 2013 at 5:42 pm

Bro you mad?

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880 nivekyaj March 1, 2013 at 4:03 pm

yes, I am, mad at the world…

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881 Jim Busse February 21, 2013 at 4:19 pm

Private school, they paid for this with their own money or their parents. Would I send my kids there? No. Any school that uses my money to support student groups like feminists queers and allies has no use for my money. They already got it figured out.

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882 Helios420 February 21, 2013 at 5:38 pm
883 Sean Wesley February 21, 2013 at 4:20 pm

I find it hilarious that people who STILL to this day in the modern age believe in biblical fairy tales and christian mythology have the gall to lecture others on “morality”. It takes a serious lack of intelligence and knowledge to believe in religion, especially the ones who believe in it literally. It’s really embarrassing that our country is so religious, other parts of the world must look at us as medieval simpletons.

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884 Jon Welsh February 21, 2013 at 4:22 pm

So just to clarify…hypothetically, let’s say a straight Christian male student attended this event so that he will be more prepared to make various experiences more enjoyable for the wife he hopes to have some day. Is it wrong and immoral of him to do so? Also, if “spilling your seed” is wrong outside of reproductive purposes, why do most men experience wet dreams? And if there is an inability to experience arousal without thoughts of lust why do most male babies have multiple erections prior to the age of 6 months? And an even better question, if “wasting” sperm is wrong, does that mean that a woman who “wastes” her eggs by not becoming pregnant every time she is physically capable of doing so is acting in a way God would disapprove of?

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885 Dave February 21, 2013 at 4:55 pm

Whether or not one agrees with the tenets of the faith(s) in question here is not relevant. This took place in a chapel, a place of worship, and it should come as no surprise that believers would be offended.

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886 Sheila Firmin February 21, 2013 at 4:22 pm

Slouching Toward Gomorrah…(book by Robert Bork)…..we have arrived

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887 Trisha Doherty February 21, 2013 at 4:23 pm

If you reached college age without figuring out on your own how to masturbate, you need to be culled from the herd.

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888 Jake February 21, 2013 at 4:25 pm

I am thoroughly disgusted by the hateful words said in these comments. As a conservative Christian who attends this school, I personally have no problem with an educational seminar held in the chapel (which is also an academic building on this campus). Call this a “Godless Liberal” academic institution all you want. We offer majors in Religious studies programs, and there are more Christian and religious organizations on this campus than there aren’t. This is a liberal arts college, where everyone is entitled to their own opinions and beliefs. I believe Jesus, himself, taught us to be accepting of others and kind to all no matter what. True Christians would know this and not spread these hateful words toward one another. I am happy that you can share your opinions within these comments, but please do not be hostile. Do not try to “shut our email server down.” Do not remove your children from this school based on one event. If you have complaints, contact those in charge with kindness and courtesy.

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889 Groovery February 21, 2013 at 4:41 pm

You’re a fool.

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890 Jake February 21, 2013 at 4:43 pm

My point exactly

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891 Trisha Doherty February 21, 2013 at 4:47 pm

I fear you will have great difficulty in the dog eat dog business world when you graduate..

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892 Jake February 21, 2013 at 4:49 pm

Not true, I’ve already worked many jobs. When you treat people with kindness, good things happen to you. People actually like honesty and good-natured people. Who knew?

893 Groovery February 21, 2013 at 4:53 pm

What point?

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894 Dave February 21, 2013 at 4:53 pm

Being a Christian does not require you to submit, to allowing groups which preach evil to do it in a chapel. (The student group here is allied with Planned Parenthood).

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895 Sarah February 21, 2013 at 7:32 pm

They are concerned with people having safe sex/safe relationships. They have difficult conversations. They are not pro-abortion, they are simply for people having the protection such that they do not need an abortion.

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896 ... for great justice. February 21, 2013 at 10:55 pm

You are neither Conservative nor Christian.

Either or both would see the fundamental wrong of this.

You are just a Leftist, lying, and saying you are something which you are surely not.

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897 Romulus Augustulus February 21, 2013 at 4:26 pm

The USA is at Rome 450 AD. Decadence, materialism, aloofness, self-indulgence, laziness, moral relativism. Hardly the hallmarks of a civilization on the rise. The whole bankrupt society is rotting from the inside out. Thanks to 4+ decades of idiotic leftist agendas shrouded in terms like “social engineering” and “social justice” we’ve dumbed ourselves down to the point of no return. I doubt very much they are wasting time and resources on idiocy like this in countries like China. Instead they are pushing AP calculus into younger age groups. Stick a fork in what was “America”. It is done.

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898 Trisha Doherty February 21, 2013 at 4:28 pm

Weinberg and her tribe sure have hit on a good scam..get idiots to pay you to explain that which nature pretty much takes care of on it’s own.

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899 JackT February 21, 2013 at 4:30 pm

Mediocre college; #82 on US News List! Focus on helping these students get an education so that they can get jobs when they
graduate. Rhodes Scholars: 0.

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900 Woodstock1229 February 21, 2013 at 4:31 pm

I called the church and filed a complaint. The email address that I forwarded this article to is wwise@ allegheny.edu. I hope you do the same.

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901 Leonard DiMarcello February 21, 2013 at 4:33 pm
902 William Jaudon February 21, 2013 at 4:33 pm

That is just stupid as all get out. If someone needs to take a clas on how to freaking masturbate then they need to be legally sterilized so as not to pass on that dumbass DNA.

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903 Timmy February 21, 2013 at 4:39 pm

you guys obviously havent found the clitoris yet

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904 Groovery February 21, 2013 at 4:40 pm

The decline and fall of western civilization, right before your eyes.

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905 Pat Geary February 21, 2013 at 4:40 pm

My son and daughter graduated from Allegheny.I have attended Mass at the Chapel. Unbelieveable.

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906 rosswill February 21, 2013 at 4:41 pm

This is the “great society” that the liberals have long fought for. They have removed all reference to God and all moral teaching around the 10 Commandments. They have trashed the founding principles of this country and trashed the Constitution. To these people there is no good or evil, no right or wrong because everything is relative. Liberalism is the scourge of western civilization and has changed this country into something that is unrecognizable from the society of my childhood.

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907 Dave February 21, 2013 at 4:51 pm

Think about how far they’ve gotten. The majority of them believe, for example, that it’s perfectly fine to punish people for sins they have not committed. (E.g., all Catholics, Christians, etc. deserve punishment for molestation; white people living today must be penalized for slavery, etc.) This principle is not a Christian one.

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908 frizzy140 February 21, 2013 at 5:14 pm

you mean a world of segregation, limited women rights (women could not get a bank loan or a credit card on their own without a father/brother/husband co-signing until the 70′s, had to play half-court sports because they were not considered ‘fit’ enough to handle it and were outlawed from many colleges because women are not supposed to be educated) not to mention quotas on schools for the amount of Catholics Jews and other ‘minorities’ they would permit, The youthful life you idolize is actually one of hateful spite where unwed mothers where spit on, multi-racial couples were outcasts and the white christian populace was at the precipice of their fall. What you remember is economic strength thanks to the end of WWII post-production, a non-globalized economy that had no competition and a ‘simpler’ world when your skin color and religion were worth more than they are now.

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909 Azarkhan February 21, 2013 at 4:44 pm

Only a college would dream of hosting something so ridiculous.

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910 axemole February 21, 2013 at 5:46 pm

IN A CHAPEL WHERE CATHOLICS CELEBRATE MASS!!!!

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911 Alan Perez February 21, 2013 at 4:44 pm

May God have mercy on us.

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912 Bubba Horowitz February 21, 2013 at 4:46 pm

i took that class. i got screwed in the final.

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913 Trisha Doherty February 21, 2013 at 4:48 pm

yep..i got royally f*cked by a few professors as well

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914 Dan Nourse February 21, 2013 at 4:49 pm

Just how stupid do you have to be to Not know how to masturbate. I mean really….and to take a class, go back to grade school college is way to hard for you.

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915 Jesus Chirst's aborted fetus February 21, 2013 at 4:51 pm

hey guys, i think you are all taking my father’s teachings and the bible a little too serious. i mean, Jesus was actually was pro-choice. he had me aborted in a back alley with a clothes hanger

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916 Bubba Horowitz February 21, 2013 at 4:51 pm

will this take the place of the tupperware party?

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917 Eric February 21, 2013 at 5:01 pm

No the sex toy party is happening next week.

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918 BillCNC February 21, 2013 at 4:52 pm

Seems quite appropriate, … considering the molestation that runs like wildfire in the churches.

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919 George Fuller February 21, 2013 at 4:55 pm

A bunch of college Jerkoffs attend Church…..

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920 1uncle February 21, 2013 at 4:56 pm

The meaning of demo liberal.

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921 frizzy140 February 21, 2013 at 4:57 pm

i think this class should be mandatory for all straight 18 year old boys, a real lessonfor them that no amount of collegiate coursework can achieve

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922 LIgoner February 21, 2013 at 4:57 pm

Liberal arts education. Too stupid to find their own clit or penis and their parents are spending thousands to help them find them.

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923 frizzy140 February 21, 2013 at 5:03 pm

its not their own that needs helping, its to teach others that is the quest

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924 teapartydoc February 21, 2013 at 5:03 pm

Sodom and Gommorah here we come. (No pun intended).

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925 frizzy140 February 21, 2013 at 5:04 pm

why do you view sexuality as sinful? I’d think murder and rape are more viable options for an allegorical reference

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926 Good job, AC! February 21, 2013 at 5:04 pm

Let’s discuss this in terms other than religion and sex. Let’s look at
responsibility. I applaud the students, faculty, and staff who engaged in
a rather tough conversation. While controversial, it educates students on
appropriate methods for participating in adult behavior. In a society
where abstinence education is proven to be unsuccessful; I admire the staff in
their efforts to teach students how to be responsible. Teaching students not to do something, doesn’t equip them for the real world. While
the venue is considered to be inappropriate, consider the demographics of the
institution. The college officials approved the program and chose the location.
In a smaller institution, this may have been the only location available
that would be suited for this presentation. Would it even be an issue if the activity took place outside of the chapel?

Instead of constantly finding things to complain about in this world, we need
to begin looking at what is going right. Great job, Allegheny College for working collaboratively to teach students about how to respect their bodies and their partners. How many institutions do you know of that can pull this many professionals together for a single event? Not many!

Liberal Arts education flourishes and provides some of the best educational (and holistic) opportunities for students. Don’t knock something because you don’t
understand it. Perspective is not the same as the intention of the activity.

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927 frizzy140 February 21, 2013 at 5:05 pm

AMEN!!!!

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928 Hal Slusher February 22, 2013 at 12:29 am

Rather then teaching college people the location of the “G” spot might be better served teaching them how to read and actually think for themselves.

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929 D John February 21, 2013 at 5:12 pm

This a part of a broader agenda. Desensitize these sexually heightened young adults to think it is acceptable to take a class in a place used as a Church for Christian worship. These weirdo groups holding the event, would love to be accepted by the majority of Christianity. I would be curious to know what the college personal who defend this event at the chapel would define as inappropriate or permissible to take place in this chapel. That would tell me much more about them. Probably, anything would be a okay.

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930 frizzy140 February 21, 2013 at 5:19 pm

‘chapel’ is what it was built for, but if you read the article you would have understood that it is actually used for multi-faith prayer and outside activities. Almost every non-denominational college uses it’s ‘chapel’ for other activities.

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931 MICHAELNOC February 21, 2013 at 5:23 pm

Well, just like all of us, those responsible will some day have to answer to their Maker.

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932 axemole February 21, 2013 at 5:23 pm

I do not know about other Christian denominations, but Catholics SHOULD write to the Bishop of the diocese of Erie, to the whole College Administration and Religious staff at Allegheny College and VOICE THEIR COMPLAINT… these seculars are quick to trample down on Christian’s beliefs because now, to offend or disrespect them is considered ‘avant-garde’… ask Tim Tebow or Carrie Prejean.

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933 Dr_Proctor February 21, 2013 at 5:25 pm

….and it all came tumbling down. Judgment is at the threshold, and only those that have built their house on the Rock will survive the raging tempest.

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934 jerryomega February 21, 2013 at 5:26 pm

“So, what was your major in collage?”
“Oh, I have a degree in MASTURBATION.”….and a few other things that can’t be listed here.
All that time and money for what?

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935 axemole February 21, 2013 at 5:36 pm

Masturbation… the Renewable Energy of the future… just put a bunch of liberals on Viagra in a room and harness the heat generated by these libturds…

Boy, oh boy, with all the sexual deviations, with all the perversion, with pedophiles seeking rights just as GBLTs, with the increase in teenage suicides across the country, or problems in society because of Abortion, Euthanasia, Divorce… you would like to think that a College would concentrate their efforts on devising solutions or programs to help society, but No no no no… the Administrators argues that not knowing how to masturbate WELL is a more pressing issue in today’s culture. Say it ain’t so, please, say it ain’t so.

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936 jerryomega February 21, 2013 at 7:51 pm

If you ever get the check out Jay Leno’s “Jay Walking” where goes out on the street and even college graduations and ask people simple questions it will show you what they learn in the Universities.
When you have a dumbed down entitlement society that population will fall for anything. Easy pickings for some one like Obama.

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937 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 11:15 pm

Lol but there is no BS in Masturbation at that school.

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938 JJ February 21, 2013 at 5:30 pm

While I understand that religious people are bound to have certain views on sexuality. What baffles me is how venomous they are, yet passive sheep when it comes to voicing themselves about the real crimes that happen through the economic/political machine. Poverty, greed, murder and war. Jesus forgives prostitutes, Luke 7:36-50 he hated bankers http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/07/what-would-jesus-do-with-bankers.html

Divide and conquer is a real strategy being waged against the population by the powers that be and sexual orientation is one of the methods being implemented. Don’t be one of their puppets. Follow what Jesus said not your religious institutions or political bodies or corporate media. Think as a human.

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939 Grace February 21, 2013 at 5:31 pm

I think that it’s fantastic that a school is willing to discuss such a taboo topic in an academic and adult way. Education is the best way to dissapate ignorance and keep the youth of America safe. We all have bodies, and we all have genitals. Why is it such a big deal to talk about them? Allegheny is taking risks and facing up to the tough subjects that garner intense criticisms from the general public. The fact that it was in a chapel has very little to do with anything. The chapel is used for many different events including classes, mass, string quartet performances. All serve as a way to communicate with students and enrich their learning. As Galileo Galilei said: “I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who had endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.” Simply because things such as sex and masturbation give us pleasure does not mean they are inherently evil, nor does it mean that we should not learn about it. It is natural- the way God made us, and God makes no mistakes.

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940 axemole February 21, 2013 at 5:39 pm

You have the internet… google it… or are you a retard? The fact that someone out there makes a living talking about masturbation is hilarious… but extremely concerning is the fact that a COLLEGE believes that this is a most pressing social issue and that THE BEST PLACE TO HOST THIS SEMINAR is in the Chapel where Catholics celebrate mass.

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941 Grace February 21, 2013 at 6:42 pm

Firstly, I have to say that someone who is talking about sensitivity toward a specific group of people comes across as a bit hypocritical when they use the word “retard” like you did. I would also like to point out that the seminar was not just about masturbation but also about how to have a healthy romantic relationship with another person. This was only one facet that has been brought into the limelight for the sensationalism factor it has.

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942 axemole February 21, 2013 at 8:37 pm

Oh… so now you are the sensitive police? you have feelings of sensitivity toward retards? I see how sensitive you are… fyi: I used the word ‘retard’ on purpose, sarcastically, to generate your predictable reply… so by the same token, it is insensitive (according to you) to call someone a ‘retard’ but NOT to host a seminar entitled –fill in the blank– in a CHAPEL WHERE CATHOLICS GATHER FOR MASS, LENT AND WHERE JEWS PRAY. SO WHO IS THE HYPOCRITE? What a selective outrage you have. Hopefully you understood the meaning of offensive and disrespect that we feel when you host such seminars in a place used for ‘sacred’ liturgies. I hope this helps to put your feet in our shoes. My outrage has nothing to do with the content of the seminar (they could have done it anywhere else or the next year for all I care) but with the FACT that they chose (whether because of ignorance or blindness) a place where Catholics celebrate Mass. Now their ignorance has consequence and they should embrace it and admit that it was extremely dumb to do what they did.

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943 Grace February 22, 2013 at 2:24 am

I am glad to hear that you think it is a “predictable” thing for someone to be offened by the use of that word in such a negative context. I certainly hope people are offended when they hear discrimination. However, I am sad to hear that you think it was a show. On a similar note, what makes you think you’re talking to a non-Christian? I am a Christian, myself, and have prayed in that very chapel on numerous occasions. All the other spaces large enough to fit a crowd that size were being used for other events. It was not chosen to offend a particular group of people- that’s absurd. I think you would be hard pressed to find a faithful person on Allegheny’s campus that would side with you on this matter. Tolerance and acceptance are the main set of values held on campus. I am sorry to hear that you are so willing to jump to the conclusion that the location of this seminar was intended to wound and spite worshipers of God. I hope your struggles with your faith work out eventually.

944 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 11:00 pm

The sad thing is, when people get offended they get offensive. And it starts an ugly chain of events…

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945 absinthe February 21, 2013 at 6:02 pm

Grace, most of us got beyond the evils of masturbation when we were, er, twelve or so, after we had been caught by our parents six or seven times, often times doing it with our worldlier and wiser friends. And, no, I have not yet gone blind. What most of us find hilarious is that someone can be paid to wank in public, and in a chapel at that! I don’t mean to minimize the pain that sexual neuroses can inflict upon the highly sensitive, but it is frankly not a problem to most of us, and it is hard (pun!) to understand how anyone can accept money to preach the pleasures of beating his meat … spanking his monkey … bleeding his lizard … etc.

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946 Grace February 21, 2013 at 6:46 pm

I would like to clarify a few things for you. Firstly, not everyone does- there are people who live incredibly sheltered lives or who were abused sexually and need to readjust how they view sex and intimacy. Secondly, there was no “wanking” in public, as you so poetically put it. Thirdly, the whole seminar was not about masturbation- it was also about developing healthy romantic relationships with another person. It dealt with sexuality and intimacy as a whole. Finally, if you want to be taken seriously, I would suggest dropping the sexual puns. It’s rather self-defeatist.

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947 absinthe February 21, 2013 at 9:09 pm

Thank you for the graceful response. [Sorry, I can't help myself.] It is not that I am without compassion for wounded souls. I simply do not understand what learning to masturbate has to do with higher education, nor how compassionate masturbationists can justify receiving a check for their work, however pleasurable it may be. On their own time fine, but to create a “seminar” around it is a symptom of the sickness unto death that has brought American academia into disrepute.

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948 Grace February 22, 2013 at 2:36 am

I think you’re focusing too much on a singular part of the seminar. You’re not getting the big picture of what the event was really about. Yes, masturbation was discussed. No biggie. People do it. Why not talk about it? Adult discussion leads to a much healthier attitude toward sex and acceptance of our bodies. And higher education is not all facts, figures, and papers. It’s about improving ourselves as a whole. Therefore, students seek not only to expand the academic portion of their mind, but also their cultural, political, and sexual views. Let’s face it- it’s just part of life. Additionally, if you are deciding to classify the presenters as “compassionate masturbationists,” then you must realize that literally almost everyone you talk to in a professional setting can also be classified as a “compassionate masturbationist.” As you pointed out earlier- the larger portion of the population learns about/experiences it early on. You just need to think about it from a different perspective, which can be difficult for people who aren’t used to having their views challenged, I admit. We’ve all been there. We’re all human. Why give something like sex or masturbation power over our lives and what we can and cannot discuss? Talk about it!

949 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 11:09 pm

But no one was masturbating in the chapel… Nor was it about masturbation. It was more about female sexuality and how to understand and embrace it. The female sexuality has been shamed for centuries, and there is much damage that has to be reversed. Women need to embrace their bodies, not be ashamed of them.

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950 Typical_White_Person_pa February 22, 2013 at 12:17 am

It’s the location doofus. We know that schools have a fixation on sex and perversion. That’s not the surprise. It is the total disregard for religion and what the people who BUILT the college and the chapel did it for. It wasn’t for sex obsessed giggles.

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951 Grace February 22, 2013 at 2:40 am

I would argue that our culture, rather than our educational system, has a fixation on sex and sexuality. Also, as I stated previously, the chapel is nondemoninational, and it used for all manner of lectures and events. I simply fail to understand why talking about our bodies in the house of God would offend Him. He made us after all, and became angry when Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and became ashamed of their nakedness. God made our bodies, our bodies are beautiful. It’s more likely to be a compliment to Him than an insult. The only people offended are just that- people. Why be ashamed of what God gave us?

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952 Hal Slusher February 22, 2013 at 12:17 am

God gave us free will and the minds to use it. Problem is that allowing unbridaled attitude concerning sex is very destructive. The number of aborted inconvient babies and the pain inflicted on loved ones when jumping from bed to bed with complete disregard for your spouse or significate other.

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953 Grace February 22, 2013 at 2:50 am

Oh, but they did not encourage sexual promiscuity! Not at all! Rather, they talked about sex and sexuality in all its respects- including how to have a healthy romantic relationship with someone. They encouraged abstinence, but knowing that there are those who do not follow that path, they educated them on how to stay safe. Sexual abuse in relationships was also discussed. It was a seminar on health and well-being. I assure you, never once was anyone encouraged to be morally loose.

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954 Patrick Shrier February 21, 2013 at 5:39 pm

Our society deserves whatever happens to it if anybody can defend such a class being held in a place of worship. You simply cannot convince me that there was not another suitable non-religious venue on that campus to hold such a seminar. Using the chapel is a clear sign of the despite with which religion and people of faith are held by the supposedly educated class.

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955 Helios420 February 21, 2013 at 5:40 pm

All the other buildings were being used for orgies, sacrifices, opium deans, or knitting classes

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956 penquinbebee February 21, 2013 at 5:39 pm

It’s not even a church. It’s a non-denominational chapel. It’s a multi-purpose use space.

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957 axemole February 21, 2013 at 5:42 pm

Sure… lets burn a figure of the prophet Mohammed in it… do that and you’d understand the meaning or mocking other’s peoples beliefs.

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958 Joe Biden February 21, 2013 at 5:40 pm

I am masterbating as I read this.

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959 absinthe February 21, 2013 at 5:47 pm

You ain’t been learned properly. Masturbation is spelled with a “u”.

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960 axemole February 21, 2013 at 5:54 pm

He mean he is getting a Master degree in ‘bating’ his @#&$^ to a pulp from Allegheny College.

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961 axemole February 21, 2013 at 5:51 pm

Well, what are you waitin for? go now to Allegheny College and demand your credits towards your degree in sloth and ignorance.

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962 absinthe February 21, 2013 at 5:41 pm

I was taught to masturbate by my best friend’s older brother when I was 10 or so. It is not a hard thing to learn to do (pun!). What is surprising: (1) how utterly stupid most of higher education is nowadays, (2) how highly paid professional “educators” are, and (3) how relentlessly persecuted are the inquisitive people who ask socially important questions about race, genetics and intelligence. Better to manipulate your penis or finger your vagina out in a public space than to raise sensitive questions about matters that count.

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963 Helios420 February 21, 2013 at 5:43 pm

YOU UNDERSTAND!!!!! YOU GET YOU’RE PhD IN JACKING IT!!

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964 Harry Reid February 21, 2013 at 5:43 pm

I can’t find my G spot. Nancy, can you help me?

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965 absinthe February 21, 2013 at 5:52 pm

If you are a man, it is called your prostate gland. If Nancy can’t help you, call your proctalogist.

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966 Revelation February 21, 2013 at 5:49 pm

Well, we know where the meteor might hit.

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967 walter12 February 21, 2013 at 5:57 pm

This Miller and Weinberg and everyone associated with them, are simply insane. My God, this nation does not have long now. We are going down the toilet and fast.

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968 Snake Plissken February 21, 2013 at 6:05 pm

A college student has to be taught how to “slap the weasel” or “club the clam”? A twelve year-old can figure that out by themselves.
Honestly, people, you really shouldn’t reveal this kind of “challenge” to the world . . .

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969 John Sheets February 21, 2013 at 6:06 pm

Seriously – you are in college but need instruction on THIS topic??? I pity the future.

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970 priest's wife February 21, 2013 at 6:07 pm

so…this college doesn’t have a cafeteria or conference room where this so-called educational seminar could be held?

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971 Brian Apple February 21, 2013 at 6:09 pm

I’m sorry but there is no such thing as a G spot. Women don’t have orgasms. Only men have orgasms because only men expel the gamete during the sex act.
This notion that women have orgasms is silly psycho-babble put out by female writers and their friends, including metrosexual males who wish to flatter them and get into their pants.. It’s garbage. As a gay man, I’m sick of these people and their psycho-babble.

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972 Former Paratrooper February 21, 2013 at 6:17 pm

You can’t hold a Bible class in a school after hours but a college can hold a sex class in a Church. WTF?

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973 3rdjerseyman February 21, 2013 at 6:18 pm

How stupid are these kids? I knew how to have sex by time I got to college. In fact, I was working as an amateur gynecologist my whole time in school. What a great job: sex educator for college students! Talk about coals to Newcastle.

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974 ms20 February 21, 2013 at 6:20 pm

And the insanity grows.

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975 jamalagrin February 21, 2013 at 6:23 pm

GIt is Sodom and Gomorrah revisited. How can this country survive when Christians are being bashed and censored, and devil possessed educators are being praised and allowed to display their ungodliness openly? How about teaching the students how to think, read, and write, and become good citizens, instead of being immoral, anti-American, and just plain evil and stupid?

If anyone thinks that God will intervene to save America from destruction from an external or internal enemy when He is being mocked and disobeyed, they better think twice. We are going the way of the Roman Empire and Babylon. This country needs to fall completely, and be transformed and rebuilt with people with Godly morals an character.

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976 wvernon1981 February 21, 2013 at 6:32 pm

Is your god so petty that he can be angered through mocking and insults? Well adjusted adults have already learned to let mockery slide. Has your god learned nothing in an eternity of existence? From another angle, reacting negatively to mockery seems to be a mechanism to protect one’s place in a social hierarchy. If that’s correct, then how is it your god would need to protect itself from mockery when it sits securely at the top of the social hierarchy it created?

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977 AlleghenyStudent February 21, 2013 at 6:31 pm

Those who were in charge of bringing the program to Allegheny openly admitted that the location was not ideal for them; however, they still believed that it was better to have the event rather than turn it away again due to a lack of available spaces. As a conservative Allegheny student, I was intially hestitant about attending due to the conflicting location, as were a few of my other more conservative friends. Despite the location, the program offered a lot of information that more young women should know about. The two speakers didn’t strictly discuss how to have an orgasm but also included topics such as how a woman should be comfortable enough with her body that she should be able to ask for help in the event of an STI, sexual abuse, etc. They used humor to ease people into the conversation and encouraged crowd participation. In the end, the location of the program seemed irrelevant to me and most of my friends. We simply appreciated the ability to learn more about womens’ bodies, something that not all women get to enjoy.

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978 axemole February 21, 2013 at 7:15 pm

How would you like me to start this reply by saying…
I openly admit that calling you ignorant, intolerant, offensive and disrespectful is not an ideal way to start a ‘civil’ conversation, however, I still believe that it is better to enlighten your darkness than to let you go on calling yourself an informed student.

i.e. 1) Please do not call yourself a conservative… 2) You seem to be ignorant that Catholics celebrate masses in places that are considered sacred or at least respectable or with dignity… which the TITLE ALONE OF THE SEMINAR ITSELF is a spit in the face of all Catholics. What a lame excuse: you don’t have a place to host it… well re-schedule it… there are PLENTY of days in a year… no, the fact that it is an agenda to trample down all religious beliefs, specially those that do not retaliate with violence (such as Catholics and Christians in general) is what allows Institutions as this College to keep on trampling on other’s belief. Go ahead, insult the Muslims, see if your so called ‘avant-garde’ administration would allow it?

The problem here is not the content of the seminar… it is the DECISION to host it in a CHAPEL where CATHOLICS celebrate mass… some liberal wet dream.

Besides it is hilarious to hear of someone making a living speaking about masturbation… but it is extremely concerning to see that a College thinks that it is of vital importance to educate students on how to masturbate WELL.

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979 Hal Slusher February 22, 2013 at 12:09 am

So the Church was the only place to hold this? Ever think of rescheduling but obviously your need for s3x was more important then the respect for the location

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980 Typical_White_Person_pa February 22, 2013 at 12:13 am

You seriously believe there wasn’t an auditorium or large classroom SOMEWHERE on campus? Problem is that you are being conditioned to believe that there are no sacred spaces and that nothing, no one and no place deserve respect for its own sake. Blur those lines and you end up with epidemics of 25 year old teachers sexting their 15 year old students. There are lines that used to exist due to what was then “common” decency. The lines are quickly being erased much to our detriment.

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981 Ace February 21, 2013 at 6:32 pm

Ya know…..American society doesn’t even surprise me any longer with things like this. It’s a complete lost cause anymore… It’s uneducated, ill-informed, lazy and uncaring. This is just one more prime example of some of that.

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982 hensonsan February 21, 2013 at 6:33 pm

This is a do-it-yourself project, like patching potholes you encounter on the road to hell. OTH, it may provide a more worthwhile major for those considering women’s studies.

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983 Steve Stunning February 21, 2013 at 6:36 pm

Tell me the nuts aren’t running the asylum. This starts with allowing homo’s to marry or even treating them like they’re not nuts, then add the lesbians masquerading as “women’s rights groups”, then legalizing drugs, etc. and you end up with a bunch of weirdo’s running a once great society that’s going to hell in a hand basket! Oh and let’s not forget the Negro in Chief destroying everything he hates about white America.

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984 Stephanie Payne February 21, 2013 at 6:44 pm

Allegheny College has an awful reputation as a liberal cesspool of junk-learning.

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985 Redskinsfan89 February 21, 2013 at 6:46 pm

You say that Allegheny College was transformed into a bouduoir of sorts, yet, how many of us had sex education in the bedroom? Far as I remember it was comprehensive and in a clean and well-lit classroom with 20-25 other students at my high school. Ford Chapel is just the “chapel”, not specifically Christian, Catholic, Protestant, or any other denomination. It is available to any group, and while it is mainly used by Christian groups, it is also used for student music recitals, chamber music concerts, and the annual Honors Convocation. It is not solely a religious venue; therefore, stop treating it as one. Does it matter that it is during Lent? Would you have written the article with any more of a conservative viewpoint if it was during, say, mid-October? Also please explain what you mean by “some students’ attitudes towards Christians” without actually quoting more than just one student, who sounds like she might have just been a fellow biased conservative like you. Before you try to represent the student body next time, please quote more than one person. Oh, wait, you’ve already developed quite the reputation for, may I say, bad journalism. Sincerely, a PROUD Allegheny student!

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986 gimme a break February 21, 2013 at 6:51 pm

Oh please, it was a political statement put on by the ” Young Feminists and Queers and Allies” group. They gave christians a big F-U…Im not a hardcore christian and I dont really care if two gays want to marry, but I see this, and if it comes up for a vote in my state, I just want to throw THEM the big F-U!

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987 John Clark February 21, 2013 at 6:53 pm

I go along with the premises discussed, agree with the idea that sex should be an expression of personal freedom without guilt, and that even pre-schoolers may discover the pleasures for themselves. Let’s go, folks!

But wait! Here’s where I have a problem: Should these things be taught in this way to youngsters? This is a huge question, and it’s avoided here. Because to take the argument a step further, well, there are priests in jail for teaching sex, by showing how. There are pedophiles with a lifetime stamp of “sex offender” hanging around their necks.

You cannot have it both ways. To the curious – and what students aren’t curious – should they get involved with a “why not” in their minds? And to do this in a church, the holy sanctuary of priests? They, the student and the much older adult will have fun for now, but consequences? Pregnancy, STDs, mental depression. And for a solution, finally, years later, maybe there’s money in it, as the Catholic church is finding out, driven close to bankruptcy by the multi-million dollar awards being successfully claimed.

So, finally, I think these classes and lecturers are irresponsible, and should not take place in this way. I’m sure that most kids today are not learning anything that’s new to them, but are simply receiving arguments to make at their next flirtatious encounter in the locker room or cafeteria.

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988 David Axelrod February 21, 2013 at 6:54 pm

Why I vote Democrat…..

► I vote Democrat because I think it’s better to pay billions of dollars to people who hate us rather than drill for our own oil, because it might upset some endangered beetle or gopher.

► I vote Democrat because I believe it is okay if liberal activist judges rewrite the Constitution to suit some fringe kooks, who would otherwise never get their agenda past the voters.

► I vote Democrat because I believe that corporate America should not be allowed to make profits for themselves or their shareholders. They need to break even and give the rest to the federal government for redistribution.

► I vote Democrat because I’m not concerned about millions of babies being aborted, so long as we keep all of the murderers on death row alive.

► I vote Democrat because I believe it’s okay if a Nobel Peace Prize winner uses drones to assassinate people, as long as we don’t torture them.

► I vote Democrat because I believe people, who can’t accurately tell us if it will rain on Friday, can predict the polar ice caps will melt away in ten years if I don’t start driving a Chevy Volt.

► I vote Democrat because Freedom of Speech is not as important as preventing people from being offended.

► I vote Democrat because I believe the oil companies’ profit of 3% on a gallon of gas is obscene, but the federal government taxing that same gallon of gas at 15% isn’t obscene.

► I vote Democrat because I believe a moment of silent prayer at the beginning of the school day constitutes government indoctrination and an intrusion on parental authority ….. but sex education, condom distribution and multiculturalism are all values-neutral.

► I vote Democrat because I agonize over threats to the natural environment from CO2, acid rain and toxic waste ….. but I am totally oblivious of the threats to our social environment from pornography, promiscuity and family dissolution.

► I vote Democrat because I believe lazy, uneducated stoners should have just as big a say in running our country as entrepreneurs who risk everything and work 70 hours per week.

► I vote Democrat because I don’t like guns ….. so no one else should be allowed to own one.

► I vote Democrat because I see absolutely no correlation between welfare and the rise of illegitimacy.

► I vote Democrat because I see absolutely no correlation between judicial leniency and surging crime rates.

► I vote Democrat because I believe marriage is obsolete, except for homosexuals.

► I vote Democrat because I think AIDS is spread by insufficient funding.

► I vote Democrat because I think “fairness” is far more important than freedom.

► I vote Democrat because I think an “equal outcome” is far more important than equal opportunity.

And lastly, I vote Democrat because I’m convinced that government programs are the solution to the human condition, NOT freedom…..

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989 Hesitant Lantern February 21, 2013 at 7:01 pm

Is anyone REALLY surprised? This hasn’t been our fathers’ America for a while now, and it’s not like anyone actually believes there is any god other than themselves…

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990 MR TADS February 21, 2013 at 7:06 pm

this country’s moral values are in decline.
looks like the roman empire decline .

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991 ... for great justice. February 21, 2013 at 7:02 pm

According to the Habukkuk, or the Damascus Scrolls, the three snares of Belial (paths to being d*mned) are:

1) Pursuit of Lucre (greed for greeds’ sake);

2) Lust (sex, divorced from love); and

3) Pollution of the Sanctuary.

The people who organized this could have held it anyone on or off campus. Did it REALLY have to be in a chapel? This was total contempt for religion and specifically, against Christianity.

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992 Hsialin February 21, 2013 at 7:06 pm

I hate democrats with a passion.

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993 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 10:13 pm

What does this have to do with democrats, exactly?

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994 ana February 21, 2013 at 7:07 pm

OK lets not call a sin the masturbation but these Marshall Miller and Kate Weinberg “educators” did not know that masturbation will end in a vicious act wich will destroy the mind of these youngs and will never enjoy their sexuality as an act of true love?

What kind of monsters are the ones that hired these monsters? We can see the ignorance on young adults that believe these proposals from those so call “educators”. These kind of “educators are just trying to get attention from young people ready for something new without see the consecuences, also big money on its way

This College lack of common sense and abundant of ignorance. Parents and teachers should revised this type of knowledge that only threathening the mind of a person.

The news also, try to get attention noticing that it was imparted in a church. Is it needed to imply that to get attention? Just remember it is not a catholic church, is just a chapel built in honor of Ford’s wife and is USED for several and different services, including catholic mass that I am pretty sure it might have the Archidioces permission.
Regards

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995 Zabeus February 22, 2013 at 12:50 am

What?
English isn’t your first language, is it?

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996 skyking1000 February 21, 2013 at 7:15 pm

College kids need a tutorial on how to masturbate and have sex?

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997 axemole February 21, 2013 at 7:25 pm

The internet apparently is not enough for the esteemed and respected President of the Allegheny College. “We need to hire an EXPERT IN MASTURBATION to come an enlighten our students. Dammit! THAT is the most important issue for the future of our students and their careers given that in Obama’s economy, most of them will be unemployed and sitting at home watching… well… you guessed it. So we need to teach them the RELEVANT skills for their foreseeable future.”

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998 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 10:36 pm

Some do, not all of us… Sex education can be lacking in areas…

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999 gofer1 February 21, 2013 at 11:44 pm

The govt. actually gave a grant to study why college students have sex. They probably need a course in how to use the bathroom, since they seem to be so dumb in other areas.

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1000 Tim Van Surksum February 21, 2013 at 7:18 pm

How utterly sick, God’s Judgement will be severe for those who demean and conduct such abominationable behaviors in His house.

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1001 Abraham February 21, 2013 at 7:19 pm

And as a Jew I am ashamed at this scumbag Weinberg’s desecration of G-d’s name; defiling a church, I can’t think of a better poster for anti-semites

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1002 absinthe February 21, 2013 at 7:52 pm

Don’t worry. We’ve got too many “Christian” douchebags to deal with before Jews even enter the picture.

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1003 NakedJusticeLeague February 21, 2013 at 7:20 pm

If kids need a college course in how to mastrabate, then they are dumber than we thought!

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1004 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 10:37 pm

It was about sexual health too though…

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1005 Mrwilson769 February 21, 2013 at 7:22 pm

The Onan story sounds more like coitus interuptus than masturbation to me. After all it appears he had sex with Tamar and then pulled out just before ejaculation.

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1006 absinthe February 21, 2013 at 7:50 pm

I went to a Christian school, where Bible was a mandatory one-year class, plus we had chapel every day except Saturday. The story of Onan used to be cited as proof that God had made use of contraceptives a sin. It was not ever about masturbation, it was about having sex for pleasure, without allowing for the possibility of procreation.

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1007 So this is how it ends.... February 21, 2013 at 7:26 pm

Yeah, this is a definite sign of the times. I’d say the historical parallel is about 380 AD. Our sex and pleasure obsessed, entitled society will probably be completely overrun in about 30 years by radical, Sharia law imposing Muslims (whose moral absolutism may even find some converts in our morally decaying country). Talk about those who don’t know history being doomed to repeat it – we’re Rome and the barbarians are almost at the gates.

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1008 garynoff February 21, 2013 at 7:30 pm

They are crawling out from under rocks since obama was elected

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1009 Tom2855 February 21, 2013 at 7:31 pm

When I was in college catholic girls were the wildest.

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1010 James February 21, 2013 at 7:31 pm

You can run on for a long time but Good God Almighty is gonna cut you down

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1011 grannycares February 21, 2013 at 7:35 pm

And just what did this deviant behavior cost? We are sinking to the bottom faster than anyone ever expected!

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1012 Stan Broniszewski February 21, 2013 at 7:42 pm

If anyone had any chutzpa, they’d have grabbed their belt, used it as a whip, and turnover any tables & drive these perverts out of the church. Jesus did the same thing to the money changers who were turning the temple of God into a den of thieves. These liberal cretins are far worse.

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1013 GBR February 21, 2013 at 7:47 pm

Liberals misrepresentations to advance their idiot agendas. The bible reference is NOT about masturbation. Old Testament law indicates a man had to marry the widow of his deceased brother and have sex to continue the blood line. Onan married the widow but when he had sex with her, he pulled out and ejaculated outside of her. So, liberal twinklet Weinberg…that’s quite a stretch for you to tie that to masturbation. Fellow Patriots, always remember a liberals main agenda is to separate us from God. hmmm, just like that pesky fallen angel.

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1014 Zabeus February 22, 2013 at 12:47 am

She didn’t tie that to masturbation. She was stating the opposite, that it’s a common misconception…

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1015 Sarah M February 21, 2013 at 7:48 pm

As I was present as a student in this discussion I find some of these comments to be very harsh. I found the program to be extremely comforting in a lot of ways. It’s not as if they were telling us to go home and masturbate. They talked a lot about ways to be responsible, but let’s be honest, everybody masturbates. It’s not a sin through my eyes although I have no religious affiliations. You make it sound as if the public is paying money for us to get told to go have sex and masturbate which just isn’t the case at all. As a result of this program, I feel a lot better about myself physically and more comfortable. This is what people should feel. Masturbation has become a taboo in our society, especially for females, and there is no reason why that should be so. I personally didn’t even know what it was until I was about 14 and didn’t understand how it worked until about 15. Why can’t people talk about it? It’s not as if we learned anything from school about it. In my sex ed. class all throughout middle and high school, there was never once a picture of the female genitalia that included a clitoris. This just doesn’t seem right to me at all.

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1016 axemole February 21, 2013 at 9:56 pm

Sarah, in this case you need to learn to separate the facts.

No one is arguing about the content or the usefulness of the information given; which seems to be very good and that you found it helpful. The level of ‘harshness’ stems from the venue chosen to host the event.

In life there are religious beliefs where sexuality is held sacred, not a toy, but a tool to be used responsibly as it can generate life…a human life… which is not an object. Therefor the College and the organizing group’s decision to host this event named: — fill in the blank — on a Chapel where Catholic celebrate mass (sacred liturgy) where Jews gather to pray, was extremely blind, insensitive, offensive and disrespectful towards them. All the harshness is a consequence of such ignorant decision.

The board of the Reproductive Health Coalition said that they “did everything that they could to make sure that they did not disrespect the space… etc” apparently it was not enough: they didn’t re-schedule, host it off-campus, ask someone else to swap places, or held it the following year, etc. so I ask you, does it excuse them from going ahead and disrespect the beliefs of others? Is it fair that Colleges are sensitive towards the feelings of GBLTs and Muslims, but when it comes to Christians, it is somehow o.k. to offend them?

Again, no one is questioning the value of the information. What is blatantly offensive is that they found it appropriate to go ahead and host the seminar in the most religious place they could find without consideration for those whose beliefs they may offend. Hope this helps.

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1017 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 10:54 pm

But that Chapel is a for everyone to use. All faiths use the Chapel for a variety of things, and it is used for non-religious reasons too. As for holding it off campus, this college is in the middle of a small town. There isn’t much to chose from within walking distance. Keep in mind it’s cold and snowy out. People are busy, and schedules are usually packed. Perhaps this is just when the educators were available…

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1018 axemole February 21, 2013 at 11:16 pm

They may use the Chapel for other events because these events are NOT seminars that are offensive to the faith of those who use it. This time, it IS offensive and thus the blow-back.

So answer the question: the fact that they couldn’t find a better place or that they would not postpone it till next year is that a reason that justifies offending, disrespecting and ignoring other’s people beliefs? How about hosting in the Chapel where Jews pray a Nazi Seminar on Eugenics and why Jews are a lesser race? If you are not able to place yourself in the shoes of others you will have a hard time understanding others that do not think like you.

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1019 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 11:26 pm

Eugenics involves killing people… Sexual health is a fact of nature. I guess what I find weird is that this wasn’t just about masturbation, like the title says. It was directed at anyone, from people who believe in abstinence, to people who have casual sex. It was mentioned multiple times “If you want to wait until marriage, that is fine!”.
Sure the chapel is a strange place to have it, but even Christians have sex. That’s a fact of nature. And that chapel is open to all sorts of events, even non-secular events. There was a speaker about women’s rights there not too long ago.

1020 sb February 21, 2013 at 10:23 pm

Sarah, I’m curious if your parents know this is the type of “discussion” they are paying thousands of dollars for you to attend, and if so, were they aware where it was held?

“In my sex ed. class all throughout middle and high school,…”

Just wow.

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1021 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 10:50 pm

She didn’t have to attend it. It was an organized activity… There’s lots of other wasted money at colleges, I don’t see why sexual health education is a waste of money.

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1022 Gary Worthington February 21, 2013 at 7:49 pm

People who find this event distasteful: Have your lives become so drained of any joy, fun, or excitement (apart from those thrilling fire and brimstone Sunday church services) that you’ve succeeded in conditioning yourself in such a way that you can’t bear reach back to your youthful past and remember that orgasms are healthy and fun things.

Maybe you’re also the type of person who would say, “I think we should find a way to only permit people to have to fewest orgasms possible. In fact, lets just extract all the fun and joy out of life! Lets eat brain flakes everyday, work in a coal mine, and drive a white Buick from the late 80′s.”

Lets not forget that if there is a god, that god would hopefully want us to be happy. That god created orgasms. Orgasms are safe, fun, and make us happy (the feeling of orgasm doesn’t actually serve any other “real” purpose aside from stimulation of psychologic bonding). So why should we should we feel guilt for wanting to experience orgasms; LOTS OF ORGASMS? Is god really so unreasonable that he wouldn’t want such an event in a Chapel (keep in mind nobody was actually being “pleasured” during this event).

Lighten up people.

Go eat some sugary cereal, step out of the coal mine, test drive a Ferrari, burn some incense, and live a little.

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1023 bo1921 February 21, 2013 at 7:56 pm

I must say, you sound quite creepy. I bet the girls are leery of you. BTW, have you got God’s ear? You seem to know what he thinks.

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1024 Gary Worthington February 21, 2013 at 8:05 pm

I am creepy.
They are.
I do.

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1025 bo1921 February 21, 2013 at 8:10 pm

I guess I should apologize for stating the obvious.

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1026 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 10:46 pm

Nah he isn’t creepy. I’ve seen him around the coffee shop. He’s a pretty cool kid!

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1027 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 10:48 pm

I guess people just don’t like orgasms. What a depressing world we live in…

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1028 Connor McGinnis February 21, 2013 at 10:49 pm

Right, I forgot…in Liberaland, consequences and conscience don’t exist.

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1029 bubba_moscow February 21, 2013 at 8:04 pm

Marshall Miller and Kate Weinberg names maybe Jewish? If so, why are they expousing any advice to Christians? Maybe they should do their act in Synagogues.

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1030 Steve Daily February 21, 2013 at 8:07 pm

Jesus went into a temple once and found money changers ripping people off. He beat the ever-loving out of them and threw them out. Kinda wish He was here right now.

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1031 Bigfoot Steve February 21, 2013 at 8:11 pm

College students need a class to show them how to masturbate? Must be the dumbest generation ever.

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1032 just_stirrin_up_the_masses February 21, 2013 at 8:12 pm

The article says “the chapel is hosting services in conjunction with Lent” … Does this mean in their sex class they have to abstain from “meat” ;)

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1033 Necrophagi February 21, 2013 at 8:12 pm

Wow, even I’m appalled.

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1034 Necrophagi February 21, 2013 at 8:14 pm

My house will be called a house of prayer…

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1035 CCBanks February 21, 2013 at 8:16 pm

This was NEVER a Church of Jesus Christ. From it’s inception the so called Christian doctrine taught there bore NO RELATION to the true doctrine of Jesus Christ as it exists in the bible. A cursory inspection of the BOOK OF ACTS which chronicles the doctrines upon which the TRUE CHURCH was founded would reveal the LIE of their satanic doctrines. Sad that most are too lazy to do this. The satanic nature of the doctrines taught in this so called church have now simply come to light, in that they would allow those who HATE the church to turn it’s precincts into a WHORE HOUSE. Read your bible, as Jesus said “Search the scriptures for in them ye think ye have eternal life”. And if in your inspection you discover that NO ONE in the entire bible is baptized with the FALSE BAPTISM of the Catholic church using the titles “father son and holy ghost”, but rather EVERYONE who is baptized in the ENTIRE BOOK OF ACTS is BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, it is you who is in error not the Word. And IF you erroneously think , as the false church teaches you to think, that baptism “doesn’t matter” or “it’s all about faith”, and you come across the 19th chapter of Acts and find that the same apostle (PAUL) who upon reaching the stated destination in acts 19 ( EPHESUS) taught that there is only ONE BAPTISM, you should pause. And when you read Acts 19 and see that the apostles who taught that there is only ONE BAPTISM ( Ephesians 4:5), met some disciples along the road. And should you read that Paul asked them had they received the HOLY GHOST since they believed, you should pause again, since this is a question that CANNOT BE ASKED in the FALSE CHURCH ,since they falsely teach that one has already received said Spirit merely BY “believing” and that there is no SIGN that one has received it, you should PAUSE AGAIN. And when you read that PAUL THEN CHANGES THE BAPTISM OF THESE DISCIPLES TO BAPTISM IN JESUS’ NAME AND THAT IT IS ONLY THEN THAT THEY RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST and that “coincidentally” they then receive it the SAME WAY as had the Apostles WAAYYY back in Acts 2:1-4, you need to change your church and your approach.

I could have simply read a brochure from this church about their statement of “belief” and told you that it was a FALSE CHURCH since of a surety none of the garbage they teach exists in the bible. Don’t think so? If your church tells you that Jesus came to BRING PEACE ON EARTH, you go to a FALSE CHURCH which doesn’t know the slightest thing about Christ , since they don’t even know the reason for which HE came. And bringing “peace” is about the OPPOSITE of the Lords stated intentions. What can one say about a “church” that teaches you that the purpose for which Christ incarnated Himself is actually the OPPOSITE OF CHRIST’S STATED PURPOSE and happens to be the ONE THING that CHRIST HIMSELF WARNED you NOT to think? Since Jesus said that the DEVIL wanted to use FALSE PROPHETS in SHEEPS CLOTHING to CHANGE HIS MESSAGE would this not be such a case? Food for thought. Here is the proof that your church may be a false church, if of course, you have been taught similar blather about “peace on earth”. I’d pay attention if I were you since you’re surprised by this “churches” actions and I am not surprised in the slightest.

Matthew 10:34-37

King James Version (KJV)

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter
against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

If your church doesn’t even know the purpose for which Christ DIED ON THE CROSS, what do they really know about Jesus?

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he
that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

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1036 axemole February 21, 2013 at 8:22 pm

Stop smoking dope and posting comments…

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1037 Alex February 21, 2013 at 8:17 pm

I feel really sad. And not because I read this article. Because I read this absurdly hateful thread of comments. I feel ashamed as both a Christian and a human. So hey, thanks guys. Hope you have a great night and find something better to do.

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1038 carlo1775 February 21, 2013 at 8:29 pm

Such a shame. Secularists such as Ms. Weinberg are a disgrace to Judaism!!!

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1039 John February 21, 2013 at 8:32 pm

Would they pull this off in a mosque? You know the answer…

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1040 Lola February 21, 2013 at 8:34 pm

Utterly vile. This is the definition of a sacrilege!

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1041 jsmithcsa February 21, 2013 at 8:42 pm

Completely irresponsible of the university to do this, or to offer this class.

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1042 Fornicator February 21, 2013 at 8:47 pm

I’ve had sex in this church, on the front pew. If god was there that day, he didn’t seem to mind.

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1043 Hal Slusher February 22, 2013 at 12:05 am

Obviously you have not met God.

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1044 Fornicator February 22, 2013 at 6:53 am

Have you?
What’s he like. Please inform me of your first-hand experience in detail. You must have knowledge that the whole world is waiting to hear. You could blow this whole “truth” thing out of the water with your deep and unique knowledge. Why are you hiding it instead of speaking from the mountaintops?
Irresponsible, if you ask me.

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1045 Lindy Ill February 21, 2013 at 8:47 pm

“Anyone who causes one of My little ones to sin, it would be better to have a great millstone tied around his neck and drowned in the depth of the sea.”

“Scandals will inevitably come, but woe to those by whom they come…”

Jesus Christ will give HIS opinion to these “educators” when they meet Him face to face on their Judgement Day. Woe, woe are they!

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1046 just_stirrin_up_the_masses February 21, 2013 at 8:55 pm

But seriously, I really did have sex in that church. And if god is omnipresent, that means it was a threesome.

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1047 Hal Slusher February 22, 2013 at 12:06 am

It also means you got some serious explaining to do.

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1048 Fornicator February 22, 2013 at 6:51 am

When I meet him, I’ll let him know that if heaven is filled with these kind of hateful people, then I’d rather spend eternity in hell with people that can accept other cultures and people.
Furthermore, shouldn’t copulating with god technically be a sacrament?
The good news is when I did it, I didn’t use birth control. So at least I didn’t commit that sin.

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1049 Jesus February 21, 2013 at 9:09 pm

You’re all wrong. About everything.

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1050 Kevin Mason February 21, 2013 at 9:14 pm

Would the school have allowed this had it been a mosque? Hummmm…..

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1051 George Macaulay February 21, 2013 at 9:16 pm

These are the very policies that caused the decline of the Roman empire!

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1052 AnalBumFruits February 21, 2013 at 9:22 pm

How so?
The Romans were having tasty tasty buttsex with little boys long before they were Christian, and continue to do so today!
What changed?

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1053 andyvanm February 21, 2013 at 9:22 pm

Communist Jews are getting more brazen everyday,take note never do they use own their Synagogues for such perversions.

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1054 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 9:29 pm

Lol there isn’t a Synagogue here though. The chapel is for everyone!

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1055 ioff10dream February 21, 2013 at 9:24 pm

Surly they could have found a Mosque for this very important gathering.

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1056 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 9:29 pm

Good luck finding a Mosque in Meadville, Pa. It’s a predominately white, Christian area. The Muslims are free to use the Chapel though, along with all the other faiths…

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1057 axemole February 22, 2013 at 10:20 am

A Muslim would not offend Christians as much as the College has already done… besides, if Muslims hear what you have done in that building, that would be the last you see them asking to use that building… for the same reason why Catholics are offended.

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1058 God February 22, 2013 at 12:33 pm

That’s besides the point my child, someone said they should’ve used a Mosque (even though that has nothing to do with anything at hand and implies that Islam is inferior to Christianity and it wouldn’t matter if the sex talk offended the Muslim community). And in response, Meghan Pierce pointed out that there are no nearby Mosques to hold this event in even if the college wanted to. A Muslim offending a Christian has nothing to do with ioff10dream’s comment. If you can comprehend my Word, then you should at least be able to comprehend what’s relevant to the argument and what isn’t.

God bless

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1059 Meghan Pierce February 22, 2013 at 5:48 pm

As far as I know, there is no backlash on campus. The Muslims of the campus seem not to really care. Nor do the Christians on the campus.

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1060 An Allegheny Student February 21, 2013 at 9:29 pm

This article does not take into account the fact that the Chapel was simply the best available spot for this presentation. Our main auditorium was being used by the Wind Ensemble (which I am in), and the only other room that could have fit everybody that turned out for the talk (Schultz banquet hall) has only a bunch of round tables in it – not a very good set up for a presentation. Yes, the Chapel probably wasn’t the best place to have a talk about sex, but it was the only place that could have been used on that night. A little context makes a big difference.

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1061 axemole February 21, 2013 at 10:08 pm

The board of the Reproductive Health Coalition said that they “did everything that they could to make sure that they did not disrespect the space… etc” apparently they were in a bind, either not to host the event this year or risk to offend a bunch of Christians… could they host it off-campus? or held it the following year with BETTER planning? etc. well I do not know but they DID chose to hold it in a place used for Christian religious purposes… so I ask you, does the fact that they do not have any other place to host this seminar excuse them from going ahead and disrespect the beliefs of others? Is it fair that Colleges are sensitive towards the feelings of GBLTs and Muslims and making sure they are not offended, but when it comes to Christians, it is somehow ok to offend them?

Again, no one is questioning the value of the information. What is blatantly offensive is that they found it appropriate to go ahead and host a seminar entitled: — fill in the blank — in the most religious place that the College have at its disposal without anyone (either in the religious department, nor the administration, nor the ACLU) considering those whose beliefs they may offend.

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1062 Clarence Carter February 21, 2013 at 9:30 pm
1063 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 9:31 pm

That chapel is for all faiths to use, not just Christians…

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1064 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 10:11 pm

And this wasn’t just about masturbation! It was more about all sorts of sex-ed then masturbation…

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1065 axemole February 22, 2013 at 8:05 am

… and that gives you the right/excuses you to offend, disrespect and bully ‘some’ Christians… right?

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1066 Billy Squier February 21, 2013 at 9:31 pm
1067 Cincinnatus February 21, 2013 at 9:33 pm

Perversion seems to be the only major that is available at most of today’s Marxist institutions in this country. No wonder the college degree, which seems to require seven years rather than the customery four, has less value than a high school education fifty years ago.

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1068 Bubba Horowitz February 21, 2013 at 9:33 pm

i got screwed in the final

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1069 Janet February 21, 2013 at 9:37 pm

It seems every day you hear new stories about the moronic education system in America. We just sink lower and lower every day; what a disgrace and it’s only for attention because it’s in a church. No wonder we are a failed nation.

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1070 Dane Hellyer February 21, 2013 at 9:45 pm

If God didn’t want us to masturbate he would’ve given us shorter arms.

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1071 Hal Slusher February 22, 2013 at 12:45 am

He wanted you to have freewill.

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1072 pitbull February 21, 2013 at 9:53 pm

God help us

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1073 dte February 21, 2013 at 9:56 pm

In my middle school years, a large group of parents got access to several rooms in a local church for about a week in the summer time and taught children sex and relationship education. This had been going on for years and most of these parents regularly attended church and this was in the Bible belt. They were a bit forced into it because the public schools would not or could not give us proper sex education.

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1074 John Fantasin February 21, 2013 at 9:58 pm

Why is it that college students need to be taught that which most kids can master by the age of 13? Are most college students dumber than a 5th grader was 30 years ago? College today is nothing more than a politically correct circle jerk.

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1075 Idiots February 21, 2013 at 10:06 pm

If you are actually appalled by this, grow up. Catholic Priests have molested children in churches and you think people talking about masturbating in a church is a problem. Hell, I was taught about sex and masturbation by the church in the church during CCD class.

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1076 axemole February 21, 2013 at 10:11 pm

What an ignorant comment… so by your logic, now that is ok to talk about masturbation in a chapel then it should be ok for Catholic Priests to molest children…
A wrong never justifies another wrong.

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1077 Stevie Mazur February 21, 2013 at 10:06 pm

This makes me want to vomit. Have your class, it’s your right. But in a church. That is just sick and wrong.

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1078 yeeeehawwwww! Murrica! February 21, 2013 at 10:12 pm

Them there Gators think they can go around tellin young girls they have the right to masturbate too?? That’s a load of butthole! Only men should be allowed to bust one out!!! That’s why GOD made us better n ‘em! If you don’t believe me just read Timothy 2:12!!!

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1079 sandy February 21, 2013 at 10:13 pm

We are losing our young people and it seems that no one cares. Parents protect your kids from the colleges that support such as this. Your children are the leaders of tomorrow and right now there are few euipped to lead. My heart breaks for our youth.

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1080 Johnny Simpson February 21, 2013 at 10:16 pm

Next Up: A seminar on Catholic doctrine in a Planned Parenthood Center. It’s called the Fairness Doctrine and Equal Time. Seriously, is nothing sacred anymore? Or is this just sex-obsessed godless atheist Commies planting their flags on holy ground and intentionally desecrating churches like Stalin? Shall we try doing that in a mosque next, people? lol!

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1081 Tony Konte February 21, 2013 at 10:17 pm

society is hyperbolically spinning out of control wrong is right and right is wrong the loons and nuts are in control….. Anything that goes hyperbolic crashes at least back to the point it went hyperbolic. Example a stock that goes from 10 to 20 in one year and then goes from 20 to 100 in 3 month will crash within a month or 2 back to at least 20

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1082 FifthLouisiana February 21, 2013 at 10:19 pm

d Then Judah said to Onan, “Have intercourse with your brother’s wife, in fulfillment of your duty as brother-in-law, and thus preserve your brother’s line.”*
9
Onan, however, knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he had intercourse with his brother’s wife, he wasted his seed on the ground, to avoid giving offspring to his brother.

So she either lied or doesn’t know what she is talking about. Onan did have sex with his brothers wife but only for self gratifying purposes and not for that of procreation. It is a disgrace and severe offense that they not only preached their lustful sinful Godless ways in His holy house but they have the audacity to deceive those who attended by misquoting the bible and even implying that Onan was killed unjustly by a unloving, overbearing, merciless God. One day they will stand before Him in all his Glory and will have to explain themselves.

When are we as Christians, are going to speak out and say ENOUGH! I pray for their souls to Our most loving and Holy God and ask His precious son Jesus our Saviour to save them from the fires of hell. —– yes I’m Catholic!

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1083 Tony Konte February 21, 2013 at 10:21 pm

The government is the religion of the left therefore traditional religion must be destroyed.

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1084 u stink February 21, 2013 at 10:23 pm

u r all dumb. Y is everyone upset with this. this should not have happened

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1085 Alex Perez February 21, 2013 at 10:24 pm

If you allow Satan at the door , he will be preaching from the pulpit next week

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1086 Bob Steele February 21, 2013 at 10:27 pm

There is no limit to Progressive depravity.

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1087 gouzgounis72 February 21, 2013 at 10:30 pm

Why didn’t they just host an orgy afterwards and put the whole thing on YouTube? And everyone is surprised why recent college grads have trouble finding jobs…

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1088 cleve_blakemore February 21, 2013 at 10:34 pm

America is finished. It has about as much of a future as Sodom the day before Lot entered it for the last time. It’s finished. Most of you slept through it. That doesn’t mean there is still hope, it means you slept through the demise of your own country.

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1089 Galileo February 22, 2013 at 6:47 am

Please move to a different country then. I’m sure your religious fundamentalism would be well received by the other extremists in the Middle East.

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1090 Andrew Turner February 21, 2013 at 10:38 pm

The thing that bothers me is that this school had no other venue to hold this program? It had to be in the Chapel? This is the stuff that makes Christians mad becasue it is a purposeful thumb in the eye. If you object they call you a bigot. No shame these lefties

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1091 AlleghenyStudent February 21, 2013 at 11:04 pm

Ford Chapel is nondenominational – it is for ALL religions, not just Christianity. Also, this was an EVENT, not a classroom session – NO ONE WAS REQUIRED TO ATTEND.

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1092 axemole February 21, 2013 at 11:27 pm

sooo… that justifies intolerance, offending, disrespecting, belittling Christians beliefs? No one is required to attend therefor we can go to the Church/Chapel building where Religious groups hold religious services and hang a banner explicitly saying that — fill in the blank title of the seminar — … Do you host seminars also that are offensive to homosexuals or Muslims in your University? and if not WHY NOT?

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1093 AlleghenyStudent2.0 February 21, 2013 at 11:40 pm

The chapel is a non-denominational space used for both religious and non-religious events. How is holding an event in a non-denominational space disrespectful to Christian beliefs?

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1094 axemole February 22, 2013 at 8:02 am

If you need HELP in understanding how holding this event in a Chapel where Catholics and Jews celebrate their faith then you should sue the High School you came from for wasting your parents money and teaching you diddly. Your illiteracy/ignorance however totally explains why you ask such a stupid question.

1095 John Maruscak February 21, 2013 at 10:39 pm

This is some sick shit..

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1096 Stephen Ryan February 21, 2013 at 10:48 pm

Why not just leave fools to their foolishness? It’s no big deal. There are always confused people doing dumb things. In this case it’s in public so it is an attempt to shock. Pretend to be shocked and they will go away,

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1097 Lou Giannuzzi February 21, 2013 at 11:08 pm

No wonder we have the highest VD rate in human history. HIV is up 72% in male homosexuals in the last 6 years. Gonorrhea is up 27% in the last 5 years among females. The ‘people’ ‘teaching’ these seminars never once mention thses stats.

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1098 Socrates February 21, 2013 at 11:40 pm

If the article had been accurate, you would have been informed that over a third of the total article was about safe sexual practice and the increase in STI’s; detailing our need to take more concern with our sexual behavior.
I’m glad you drew conclusions with no basis, however.

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1099 Walter February 21, 2013 at 11:09 pm

I am surprised this did not take place at Beaver college nearby.

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1100 Golfendude February 21, 2013 at 11:10 pm

Wouldn’t it be nice if the Good Lord could just take all these types away yesterday.

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1101 junipersnippets February 21, 2013 at 11:12 pm

It always amazes me to hear how reprobate and irreverent the world is. This one takes the cake today. Reprobates just can’t wait to push their way to the front of the blaspheme line. God sees, God hears, God knows.

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1102 UnCL3 February 22, 2013 at 4:59 am

+++ , sir!

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1103 ... for great justice. February 21, 2013 at 11:15 pm

Biblical warning against “Liberals”

1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the
truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,

11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.

12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

– 2 TIMOTHY 3

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1104 A. Levy February 21, 2013 at 11:17 pm

So what happened to the Left’s beloved (and imaginary) cries of “separation of church and state” ?

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1105 Meghan Pierce February 21, 2013 at 11:19 pm

What does that have to do with anything? The school isn’t a government run school, and the chapel is for anyone to use. The educators weren’t state employees either…

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1106 Preston Venzant February 21, 2013 at 11:28 pm

Somebody really is heading for hell. Brakes off a hundred miles an hour.

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1107 UnCL3 February 21, 2013 at 11:29 pm

It’s an unbelievable country the libs have created for us. They will find out about God’s Truth, Righteousness, and WRATH on Judgement Day.

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1108 Galileo February 22, 2013 at 6:43 am

See you there, buddy.
When your god isn’t there to defend your immoral actions, you’ll be left with blind and directionless hate.
We’ll see who the righteous one is then.

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1109 UnCL3 February 22, 2013 at 9:05 am

I’m not worried about it. You should be.

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1110 talljohn777 February 21, 2013 at 11:38 pm

People are out of control…..

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1111 Jeremy Cuthair February 21, 2013 at 11:39 pm

ewwwwwww…church sex…lol

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1112 Texasbill February 21, 2013 at 11:45 pm

Decline and fall of the American Empire. Liberal fools.

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1113 Hal Slusher February 22, 2013 at 12:03 am

Lol Pagan heathens what do you expect?

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1114 Wicca February 22, 2013 at 8:58 am

Do you know what a heathen even is?

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1115 Scott McLellan February 22, 2013 at 12:06 am

Higher education is necessary for a successful life, and here we go bashing it.

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1116 garretso February 22, 2013 at 12:07 am

Would they do this at an Islamic Prayer Center? Not in ten thousand years. Not in ten times ten thousand years.

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1117 Socrates February 22, 2013 at 6:41 am

It’s a nondenominational worship center.
Islamic and Jewish services are also held there.
So technically, it was held in the school’s “mosque” and “synagogue.”
You are blatantly wrong, irrevocably.

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1118 Lloyd Swain February 22, 2013 at 12:29 am

Wow I went to college way to soon. I suppose if you have really nice orgasms you get better grades and thus a much better job after college. I mean really can’t you see how important this is?

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1119 Hal Slusher February 22, 2013 at 12:38 am

So we now have to go to college to figure out how to have s3x and masterb8. and all us poor people have to figure it out for ourselves.

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1120 Vote_Third_Party February 22, 2013 at 2:14 am

If you can’t even type the word “SEX” then, perhaps you do need to go to college.

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1121 UnCL3 February 22, 2013 at 4:57 am

assdouche alert

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1122 mohammed iqbal February 22, 2013 at 12:56 am

why wasn’t it held at the local Mosque?

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1123 Mohammed Osamal Mualim Altair February 22, 2013 at 2:22 am

1. Insert random arab sound name
2. ask why it wasnt held in a mosque

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1124 Mohammed Osamal Mualim Altair February 22, 2013 at 2:25 am

annnnnd AKBAR

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1125 abdul aziz February 22, 2013 at 1:04 am

Why wasn’t it this event held in the local Mosque?

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1126 Vote_Third_Party February 22, 2013 at 2:10 am

What does a Mosque have to do with anything?

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1127 Aziz "Zyzz" Shaversian February 22, 2013 at 2:46 am

strong name, weak comment.

douevenliftbro

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1128 Nimadan February 22, 2013 at 3:23 am

Because muslims would kill them and THEY KNOW IT!

You see, muslims know how to handle these scum.

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1129 John Williams February 22, 2013 at 1:28 am

By this reasoning, then the Bible must allow murder and theft, too–because scholars can’t agree on the meaning of certain passages. How utterly stupid. Do these people read their quotes after they spew their stupidity? Or do they blithely continue on thinking they’ve said something enlightening? I weep for my country.

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1130 Kyle February 22, 2013 at 1:49 am

More Proof of Satan’s reach here on earth… may God help us and bless us all!

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1131 sindexter February 22, 2013 at 5:23 am

According to your fairy tale books Satan killed a handful of people where as your ‘God’ murdered millions to prove his selfish points. If against all scientific understanding and evidence the bible is correct i know who i’d follow and it wouldn’t be you childish , jealous , psychotic , Child murdering nutjob God

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1132 stoptouchingthatmabel February 22, 2013 at 2:01 am

The secular left hates all things religious they are a bigoted group of haters.

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1133 The Liberal Christian February 22, 2013 at 2:35 am

I attended the event as a christian leftest… Didn’t bother me at all.

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1134 UnCL3 February 22, 2013 at 4:55 am

your handle is an oxymoron

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1135 Dr. James Rustle M.D. February 22, 2013 at 6:39 am

>Opinionated Christians all throughout this thread
>the Left are the bigots.

Hold on a moment while I gather my sides from the ground.

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1136 robertludlum February 22, 2013 at 2:14 am

The only way you can shut this left-wing B.S. down is by cutting off their access to your cash. This school should be bled dry of funds from parents paying student tuition, as well as members of the alumni association. Until a concerted effort is carried out across the nation by those fed up with seeing their hard-earned income going to worthless dribble such as this, then the left-wing mentally insane will continue shoving their crap down the throats and into the minds of our off-spring. You spend 18-20 years doing everything possible to raise your children properly and in the span of one semester, some scumbag comes along and fills their minds full of garbage.

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1137 Vote_Third_Party February 22, 2013 at 2:17 am

If one semester “Screws” up your child because of something like this, then you did a pretty bad job raising your child.

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1138 sindexter February 22, 2013 at 5:18 am

Indeed

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1139 robertludlum February 22, 2013 at 9:06 am

Hey genius, you must have missed the part about this sex-fest being staged in a church and the clergy fully supporting the effort. We are not talking about a cat house or no-tell motel. This was held in a location that you hope your children understand can be depended on as a place of worship, while those who wear the cloth are available for moral support. While parents are busy now days working two jobs in order to support deadbeats, there is an expectation that at least the religious community has not been compromised by a bunch of undisciplined drones.

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1140 Calm down, child February 22, 2013 at 9:48 am

Then teach your child how to be a disciplined free thinker. What everyone else does doesn’t really concern you.

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1141 GladImRetired February 22, 2013 at 2:15 am

When is the class on how to cheat on your taxes, or how to rob a liquor store? I’m surprised these liberal imbeciles know how to breathe without being instructed.

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1142 Vote_Third_Party February 22, 2013 at 2:19 am

It wasn’t a class, It was a student run organized seminar. I don’t understand where all this hate is coming from. Whats wrong with liberals?

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1143 Nimadan February 22, 2013 at 3:21 am

Are you playing stupid or are you really that dense?

You are hated because liberals have been using their INSTITUTIONAL POWER to carry out a program of cultural genocide of the Western population for at least 50 years now. As part of this program, all expressions of traditional Western culture are branded (and devalued) as “white”. All attempts by us to defend our culture from attack are branded (and demonized) as “racist”. At it’s most extreme, the pogrom is attempting to brainwashing the people that there is not, and never were, specific ethno-cultural groups called the English, the French, the Americans etc.

You do this and you expect not to be hated?

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1144 Realist February 22, 2013 at 2:26 am

If I had a dollar for every white christian commenting on this thread… I could fix the socio-economic divide.

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1145 Friendly 4th Reich Officer February 22, 2013 at 2:29 am

This got the attention of your friendly neighborhood rightwingers: http://jewsworldorder.blogspot.com/2013/02/jewess-teaches-masturbation-techniques.html

tl;dr “throw the Jew down the well, so my county can be free!”

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1146 Dan February 22, 2013 at 2:47 am

Tim?

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1147 Sarah February 22, 2013 at 2:39 am

I literally gasped when reading this. To think that someone would actually do this is both horrifying and breathtaking. Nobody even tried to stop it? This is what the people in this world are coming to?

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1148 Hi February 22, 2013 at 2:42 am

Why would you stop it? It was just a sexual health seminar.

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1149 sindexter February 22, 2013 at 5:17 am

Abrahamic religions need shame and the fear of sin to work you can’t have that if people are educated and at ease with their bodies and other peoples

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1150 A_Hitler February 22, 2013 at 2:57 am

I would just like to formally thank the student body for helping me organize this seminar. It was such a great success.

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1151 God February 22, 2013 at 3:09 am

I approve of this message

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1152 Josiah Wyncott February 22, 2013 at 3:03 am

This is the stuff that makes me want to go on a rampage.

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1153 OLDNAVYVET February 22, 2013 at 3:09 am

No “CLASS” at all.

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1154 sindexter February 22, 2013 at 3:42 am

Anything that mocks the mental illness that is religion is great , and the fact they are educating young people at the same time is awesome !

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1155 axemole February 22, 2013 at 10:08 am

Thanks for voicing the TRUE sentiment of liberals… at least you are not in denial of being a bully, disrespectful and offensive. It takes ‘cojones’ to own what you are.

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1156 sindexter February 22, 2013 at 10:58 am

Cheers i hate it when people pussy foot around religion because its seen as impolite / offensive to question such obvious BS. Respect is earned not a given and the sooner religious conservatives wake up and stop whining like little girls the sooner we can more forward as an educated, scientifically minded society who can debate any subject instead of clinging on to BS dogma or childish fear

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1157 axemole February 22, 2013 at 4:49 pm

You should read “Mein Kampf”… in it it details a road map on how to eliminate those of lesser breed.

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1158 sindexter February 23, 2013 at 9:36 am

eat shit and die you racist cunt

1159 Realist February 22, 2013 at 2:37 pm

Well, it wasn’t the atheists that went on a “holy” war to go kill everyone that wasnt christian.

You guys are more of bullies than you realize.

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1160 axemole February 22, 2013 at 4:53 pm

Be it atheists, man-made religious cultures (Roman and Greek empire pre-Christendom), philosophies (Buddhism) or natural religiosity (Christianity, Muslims, Jews, Hinduism, etc.) all wars in history were for control of power and money… stop deluding yourself by living in a bubble of hatred, religion may have been used as a vehicle, but the real philosophy is love of power and control.

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1161 Htos1 February 22, 2013 at 4:00 am

“Isn’t that special”?

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1162 steve mackey February 22, 2013 at 4:01 am

Onan was slain by God because he refused to carry on the Messianic line. It has nothing to do with masturbation. It’s called coitus interruptus.

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1163 bp789 February 22, 2013 at 4:03 am

Chaplain Jane Ellen Nickel, you are one sick individual, and have no business being affiliated with this chapel.

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1164 Socrates February 22, 2013 at 6:46 am

If being a tolerant Christian is sick, you might want to consider re-evaluating your beliefs. Jesus was pretty into the whole “love your neighbor” thing.
You know.

Jesus.

Your savior?

The guy whose teachings define your religion?

Actually you probably know less about your religion than 90% of these Godless Liberals. In fact, I guarantee it.

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1165 axemole February 22, 2013 at 7:50 am

Tolerant Christian? you are insane… so your tolerance brings you to bully your seminar entitled (fill in the name) and offend, disrespect and insult other faiths by hosting it in the place where other faiths celebrate their ‘sacred’ liturgies… really? either you are a sophist or a complete moron.

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1166 Socrates February 22, 2013 at 8:46 am

Be careful throwing those possessive pronouns around, I was in no way associated with this act.
Being able to accept that it is a public space to be used for many different acts and is not strictly a sacred space would be the act of someone who is tolerant.
Many poets come to speak there, some who are atheistic, homosexual, and nearly all liberal. In following your logic, this would be just as great a disrespect.

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1167 axemole February 22, 2013 at 9:59 am

Take a step back… and take a good look at the building… read its history… it is a Church/Chapel donated/built for religious purposes… and being a Methodist College, it was Christian in its conception. The fact that the College allows: atheistic, homosexuals, etc. to voice their ‘liberal anti-Christian’ narrative from within this building makes evident without a shadow of a doubt that at Allegheny College, Christians can be bullied, disrespected and offended with no one to defend them. This particular seminar was the proverbial ‘tipping point’ which provoked all the blow-back. Now to say that you always bullied Christians in the past, does that give you the right to continue doing it or deny those who complain their rights?… or is it just because they are Christians that they should be ignored as they are the irrelevant minority in society? just answer the question.

1168 Dave February 22, 2013 at 12:31 pm

It is not a “public place”. It is private property, and the college would have been well within all of its legal rights to decline its use for this seminar.

1169 Boetica February 22, 2013 at 4:14 am

God will not be mocked.

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1170 sindexter February 22, 2013 at 5:27 am

Yes it will and do u know what it will do ? nothing because it hasn’t do sod all while millions die and suffer so why should it care now ?

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1171 Boetica February 23, 2013 at 12:28 am

HUH?

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1172 John Molea February 22, 2013 at 4:30 am

Im not even religious and I can see why this would be offensive..sheesh. There really wasnt any other place on campus to have it?

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1173 John Molea February 22, 2013 at 4:31 am

I guess atleast it wasnt a mosque otherwise stuff would probably be blowing up right about now…

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1174 UnCL3 February 22, 2013 at 4:51 am

Yes, I wonder who’s idea it was to have this event inside a church…hmm who could it be, who could it be…hmmmm, maybe SATAN???

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1175 Bruce Hood February 22, 2013 at 5:15 am

I am a freshman at this collage and I love the fact that U. has the rolled out the sexual red carpet to the student body of all sexual preferences. I am in a long term relationship with a biped who just happens to be a Sasquatch. People here didn’t judge and despite my partner biting a few dorm mates we all worked it out and my bigfoot boyfriend is now good friends with a past victim and is now helping with physical therapy to teacher her how to use the very limb my lover mangled just a few short months ago.

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1176 Dylan Hodges February 22, 2013 at 5:51 am

These comments are teeming with hate. It really sickens me how much people can hate each other. I understand people are offended, but are name calling and judgement beckoning civilized responses? Is discussing enhancing personal relationships through female pleasure truly the work of Satan? I did not attend the seminar, but I don’t believe that anyone actually “pleasured themselves” during the program. This seminar was held with the intention of helping people, not offending christians. I ask everyone to forgive those who discussed furthering “sinful actions” on your “sacred grounds”. I guess I’ll burn my collection of films that feature murders in churches now, cause those are far more evil than talking about jerking off ever could be.

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1177 Nenesse February 22, 2013 at 6:33 am

>but are name calling and judgement beckoning civilized responses?
…Consider what kind of people you’re looking at in here.

I’m going to stay anonymous but feel free to guess.

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1178 axemole February 22, 2013 at 7:42 am

Oh so the intention of helping people without offending gives you the right to offend, disrespect and bully your seminar in such a location? No one is argui