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Believing in two genders is a ‘hate crime’ under police investigation at Catholic college


‘You can have your opinion’ as long as it doesn’t ‘deny my existence’

It’s uncommon at Jesuit universities these days for someone to openly share a traditional Catholic viewpoint.

When it happened at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles, the school was so spooked it called the Los Angeles Police Department.

Both the police and the university’s Bias Incident Response Team are investigating the stated belief that only two genders exist, male and female, as a hate crime.

A Loyola alumni office employee discussed her views on sexual orientation, which align with the Roman Catholic Church, with three students who were hanging up posters on the subject on April 14.

Cosette Carleo, one of the students involved, told The College Fix in a phone interview that the hate crime under investigation is “denying transgenderism.”

Carleo’s account agrees in part with an email by the husband of the employee with whom she tangled.

The employee told Carleo, who identifies as gender-neutral, that only two genders exist, male and female, according to the student. Carleo told The Fix that statement was the hate crime.

Carleo responded that “you can have your opinion” as long as it doesn’t “deny my existence.”

Promoting ‘PanSexual’ lifestyle

Outside reports of what happened differ. The Bias Incident Response Team said in a statement obtained by The Los Angeles Loyolan that the team, the campus Public Safety office and LAPD were “looking into the events of April 14 as reported by the three students.”

Carleo told The Loyolan that she and two other students noticed that Rainbow Week posters “had been removed and placed behind a garbage can.”

As they were reposting the signs, the employee “allegedly approached the students about LGBTQ+ issues and voiced her opinions on differing sexualities, expressing that anti-LGBTQ+ signs should be put up in place of the students’ sign.”

Carleo told The Loyolan the employee “told me that I was wrong and unnatural.” An opinion editor at The Loyolan also referred to the employee’s traditional Catholic view as a “hate crime” because it “disrespect[ed] someone else’s existence.”


In an April 16 email forwarded to California Catholic Daily, the employee’s husband blasted The Loyolan for a “distortion of facts” around the incident, saying his wife told him about the entire incident the same day it happened. (Neither has been publicly identified.)

The students were hanging up signs promoting “PanSexual” orientation, the husband wrote. After the employee discussed her traditional Catholic views on love and sexuality, it was the students who “suggested that Campus ministry place a sign promoting the Catholic idea of relationships next to their signs next year.”

The husband wrote that an alum who overheard his wife’s conversation with the students can back her account.

After discussing the signs, “everyone shook hands and my wife invited them into the Alumni office anytime they wanted to talk more,” the husband wrote. “The girls express out loud how much they enjoyed the opportunity to ‘dialogue’ on these subjects with my wife.”


The husband said his wife was suspended before anyone “got her side of the story” and the alum who witnessed the incident has not been interviewed either.

When the employee approached her supervisor “to protest the accuracy” of the Loyolan article, the supervisor “refused to talk to her,” the husband wrote.

A Facebook user claiming to be the LMU alum who was with the employee, Anthony “AJ” Gonzales, wrote a long post about the altercation, clarifying that he was on the phone with the employee.

Gonzales said the employee was “in the process of seeking legal counsel” to defend herself and hold LMU accountable for how she was “unfairly treated and summarily dismissed” before she could give her side.

Gonzales told The Fix in a Facebook message that he had composed a “witness declaration which has already been provided to the administration and the legal representative of my friend.”

On May 9, a spokesman for the Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund told The Fix that the employee was being defended by Charles LiMandri, the same attorney defending indicted pro-life activist David Daleiden.

The account given by the LMU Gender-Sexuality Alliance does not square with what Carleo told The Fix.

The alliance’s press release said the verbal altercation happened between 9 a.m and noon, but Carleo said it happened between 12:30 and 1:15 p.m. Carleo said the students assumed the signs, which had been posted two days earlier, had been removed between 9 and noon.

Though the Bias Incident Response Team told The Loyolan there were two investigations – the sign removal and the employee’s conversation with the students – Carleo admitted they have no evidence that the employee removed the signs.

Carleo told The Fix that while voices were raised in the conversation, there was no actual yelling, and witnesses who considered intervening saw that “there was no danger.”

Anthony Garrison-Engbrecht, director of LMU’s LGBT Student Services, referred Fix inquiries to spokeswoman Celeste Durante. She told The Fix on April 19 that the investigation was ongoing.

The alumni office employee did not return requests for comment. An email to her drew an automatic “out of the office” reply.

Loyolan Assistant News Editor Kellie Chudzinksi, the author of the article, did not return multiple requests for an explanation of how she attempted to reach the employee.

UPDATE: The unidentified employee is being represented by the Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund. Her friend Anthony Gonzales also stated that he has provided a witness declaration to the firm and the university administration.


CLARIFICATION: The university’s Bias Incident Response Team is the source of the statement that the Los Angeles Police Department is part of the investigation. The article has been amended to clarify this.

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About the Author
Matt Lamb graduated in May 2015 from Loyola University-Chicago, where he majored in political science, and minored in economics and Catholic Studies. There, he was also an active member of Loyola Students for Life and Loyola College Republicans, and wrote for The Loyola Phoenix. He is currently a graduate student at the University of Nebraska-Omaha. His work for The College Fix has been featured by National Review, Fox News, New York Times, and several other news outlets. He currently works as a Field Coordinator for Turning Point USA.

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  • Richard Johnston

    I wish I would have known only white people can be racists when I was being physically attacked by a group of black students for my crime of being white while riding on a bus. I wish my brother who was brutally beaten for the crime of being white while in a public park would have known only white people can be racist. That “knowledge” would have reduced our suffering.

    • Howard Smit

      Amen, sorry that happened to your family, God Bless you all.

  • Justmom

    To those who fought so hard for de-segregation, this generation apparently says, “nah”.

    • Dan Brown

      And that is fine. They can go back to their jungle.

  • Dogbert1

    Here goes. ‘Through colonialism came cultural interaction’, if that is considered a plus.

  • ys1

    Charlie Hebdo continued to publish irrespective of threats and actual acts of violence. In ‘land of the free and the home of the brave’ it seems that this paper is neither free to publish (both internal and external forces) and is not brave… sad day

  • Dan Brown

    “White” people created everything of value we have today. They are civilization. These anti-white racists are a cancer. Eventually this crap will lead to a war. We will be forced to wipe out these racist vermin.

  • bob gutierrez

    “Only whites can be racists” is a racist statement. Racism is a negative act of discrimination based on negative traits assigned to a race or ethnicity by the perpetrator. Too bad this one educator is too ignorant to see that all people are capable.

  • Howard Smit

    Boy Ohio State must have been having a ‘slow day’ for that crap to take place. Why do these types continue to blame white people for everyone else’s problems? Really, why? Most white people get up and go to work each day without thinking of how can I shit someone who isn’t white out of something. Black crime on white’s is like 90% more likely to happen than White crime on Black’s. Go figure. And we are the Racist? Duh wtf are they thinking!!!

  • Richard Johnston

    Read Larry Elder’s “The 10 Things You Can’t Say in America.” #1 on that list is pertinent.