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University of Michigan Exhibit Celebrates Abortion as ‘Life-Sustaining Act’

Abortion – the “life-sustaining act” of the ages.

That’s the theme behind an exhibit currently on display at the University of Michigan dedicated to defending and glamorizing the history of abortion.

4000 Years for Choice is an exhibition of posters about the age-old practices of abortion and contraception as a means to reclaim reproductive freedom as a deeply personal and life-sustaining act existing throughout all of human history,” states a university webpage describing the exhibit.

The exhibit will be showcased through May 29 in the main lobby of the Lane Hall women’s studies building on campus. The exhibit consists of dozens of brightly colored posters with bold words, phrases and documentation meant to highlight and celebrate all the ways in which women over the millennia have performed abortions.

As for the exhibit’s posters, one offers an ancient text with an abortifacient recipe: “In 3000 BCE, ancient Egyptians contained a contraceptive recipe numbered Prescription Number 21. It was called Recipe Not To Become Pregnant and called for crocodile feces, mixed with fermented dough, and placed in the vagina.”

Similarly, another touts: “Soranus, an ancient Greek physician and medical writer, wrote about the silphium plant. He suggested that women drink the juice once a month because it not only prevents conception but also destroys anything existing.”postercampaign

One poster, named “Bless the Diaphragm,” notes it was a popular 19th century form of contraception. Another, called “Believe Crocodile Dung,” mentions it was a popular spermicidal item in the past.

The “Cheer Casanova” poster touts the infamous womanizer for never having children because he used condoms. “Empower the Douche” denotes what some women at the turn of the century did to try and prevent pregnancy.  And “Rejoice Fumigation” describes how “women have been fumigating their vaginas with contraceptive vapors for thousands of years.”

The exhibit has been described by feminist art exhibit reviewers as “bold, beautiful statements to celebrate choice,” with “fresh, vital strategies and tactics for those committed to social change.”

The images were created by Heather Ault, whom a University of Michigan webpage says is “a visual artist, pro-choice activist, and independent scholar creating artwork to shift conversations about reproductive rights and justice.”

“Her work has been exhibited throughout the country. In 2011 she won the Vision Award from the Abortion Care Network for her innovative work.”

Ault declined to comment to The College Fix for an interview on her art exhibit.

“Without knowledge of this history, we as Americans cannot fully understand women’s deeply ingrained desire to control pregnancies for the good of ourselves, our relationships, and our families,” Ault explains online.

Although not on display, Ault is also the creative mind behind the 4000 Years for Choice corresponding “reproductive roots note cards,” which offer phrases and quotes from various pro-choice activists against colorful backdrops; expressions such as: “Abortion is a gift from God,” “Abortion is a blessing” and “anything 46 million women do every year can’t be immoral.” notecard

One notecard quotes Merle Hoffman at saying: “The act of abortion positions women at their most powerful…” Another quotes Soraya Chemaly: “ ‘Personhood’ for zygotes cruelly subverts the very idea of a culture of life and potentially criminalizes every pregnant woman.”

As for the display on campus, it is sponsored in part by the publicly funded Program for Sexual Rights and Reproductive Justice, an arm of the University of Michigan’s department of obstetrics and gynecology.

Inquiries by The College Fix into whether the Center for Sexual Rights and Reproductive Justice has an official position on the pro-choice vs. pro-life controversy, and whether an alternative viewpoint will also be addressed on campus, were met with referrals to the local Planned Parenthood.

Yet Ault’s website states that “anti-choice” comments add to the richness of the conversation and sharpen critical thinking skills.

College Fix contributor Vivian Hughbanks is a student at Hillsdale College.

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About the Author
College Fix reporter Vivian Hughbanks is a student at Hillsdale College, with a focus on politics and German. She served as the summer 2014 journalism fellow at The Hill on behalf of The College Fix/Student Free Press Association, and has also held an editorial position at Townhall.com.

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  • SmartDoctor

    Yeah, and so is rape. How much annual tuition do parents shell out for their kids to be brainwashed with this garbage?

    • Leather Stocking

      While I agree it is garbage we – assuming you, as I am, are a parent – should raise them to be able to deal with it. At this point we aren’t going to change the colleges and we certainly can’t change all the junk that will hit them after college so let’s start with them when we have the chance.

    • Syrin

      Too bad this “artist” wasn’t given the “gift from God” himself while he was still in utero.

      • Shawn Chapman

        “The images were created by Heather Ault.” Just sayin’.

        • Syrin

          Danke, corrected

      • Ghostrider127

        Thank you! You took the words right out of my mouth.

      • Roldan Fz

        LOL

    • doree10

      Have you seen how these same enlightened intelligent sex crazed boys and girls act when they head to the beaches for Spring HUMP week. OOPS, got pregnant-no sweat, just a trip to the kill Doc…

      • mikemazzla

        You sound like a barrel of fun there.. kids in their 20s have sex..that is how they are wired. what do you expect them to do? wait until they are married? if someone doesn’t get married until they are 30 are they ever supposed to have sex? You should grow up a little

        • Todd

          I’m 30. I’m getting married in May. I waited. Maybe you should grow up a little. Also, how does waiting til you’re 30 equate to never having sex in your mind?

          • mikemazzla

            My point was that the poster somehow equated college kids having sex on spring break as some sort of bad thing… Nature…and if you are silly enough to believe in God…made humans become sexual in their teen years. That’s how the body works…it has nothing to do with whether you are married or not. So to somehow equate sex with something that needs to wait is ridiculous.

            Ad if you are 30 and felt that need to wait to have sex that is your biz..but you wasted your prime sexual years for that. To me that is a little sad

          • John Robin

            Mike, let’s explore Your logic a little. What do You mean by “That’s how the body works”? Do You mean to imply that it’s acceptable or even good to satisfy every physical urge without urge?

            It should be obvious where this leads. Rape is OK, if You want to have sex with someone who does not consent. Murder is OK, if You want to kill someone who annoys You. Theft is OK, if You want something that Your neighbor’s got.

            That’s a rotten way to live. People who live like that are best locked up for the protection of those who don’t.

          • wrestlingwithpigs

            Or else they become politicians or college professors.

          • mikemazzla

            You are equating the acts of to consenting people with the acts of one person and another who is no consenting. Those are totally two different things

          • tcvegas

            Says who?

          • Rick

            Sort of like a person aborting their baby? Where is the consent there? There are two people involved yet only one consenting.

            Let’s equate it to that act.

          • DragonsTalon

            Actually 3…don’t forget that the Baby always doesn’t consent

          • Rick

            Sorry, I should have clarified. When I said there are two people involved yet only one consenting, I mean the mother and the baby.

            But, yes, in the case of the mother and the father where they disagree, there are three people involved where only one is required to provide consent.

          • jaydeebee

            So we aren’t supposed to curb any of our urges? We should eat as much as we like. Heck, let’s all weigh 600 lbs and have to have a forklift remove us from the house. Let’s drink all we want! Who cares about alcohol poisoning? If we can set limits on ourselves in other facets of our lives, why can’t we set limits when it comes to other things? Would you walk up to a table at a McDonald’s and drink from a stranger’s cup? That would be gross. But yet, a fling at spring break (something far more intimate and with far worse consequences) seems natural to you. Does that seem logical?

          • mikemazzla

            If we didnt succomb to urges our lives would be pretty boring Jay.. Did I have sex every night? No… have I eaten at Mcds yes.. But every night no. Have I had too much to drink in college..yes…was it a regular thing..no.

            You have to experience life and some of those experiences involve urges…That’s what makes life life. Its when you start to abuse those urges that problems arise

          • jaydeebee

            True, but not all urges can nor should be acted upon. That’s what separates us from the animal kingdom–wisdom. Most of us have a line that we refuse to cross when it come to our behavior. I would hope that you would. For some us, that line is promiscuity. We feel that having respect for one’s body and for one’s mate means saving ourselves for that person. You may not understand it. You may think it’s dumb, but there are those of us who feel it is a much better lifestyle than going to spring break and having sex with a total stranger.

          • mikemazzla

            What is one doesn’t get married until they are 30? are they supposed to just wait?

            It is funny how you equate respect for ones body and sex with one person or waiting until marriage.

            There is sex because it is fun, and feels good…and there is sex with someone you love where you get all that plus the emotional aspect of it. But I don’t see either as wrong.

            It isn’t “dumb”.. I just think as you grow up you have regrets..

            Most men I know rarely if ever say…wow I am so glad I didn’t that much sex before I was married. That doesn’t happen..they may have come to terms with it..but most dont wear that as some badge of honor…and I suspect most women dont either.

          • jaydeebee

            Just because the men you know like to have as many notches on their belts as possible before marriage doesn’t mean that they all do. Some men are happy to wait for that special someone. Maybe it’s a cultural thing. They’re not the type of guys who go to spring break or keg parties. If you’re happy with your life choices, that’s fine. But don’t assume that everyone sees sex in the same light as you do. There actually are people–maybe even people you know–who see sex as such an intimate act that they wanted to share it with one special person. That doesn’t mean it has to be boring, either. Yes, even as a married couple you can have playful. fun, lighthearted sex or deeply intimate, emotional sex. You don’t have to change partners to change the mood. And you know what? I’m nearly 50, been married for 30 years, and I don’t regret it.

          • mikemazzla

            What culture are we talking about LOL

            Your way of life may happen…and I am sure it does..but on average you know most guys look back on their youth thinking either wow I am glad I enjoyed it so much…or I wish I had enjoyed it more. My guess is a small percentage are..wow I am so glad I didn’t party at all and had no sexual experiences lol. I think that’s human nature.

            I think its cool that it worked out for you..but I think most guys on average would rather they did more sexually or party wise in college or low 20s. There is plenty of time to be “responsible and mature”

            Seriously if my son..who is in college at 19 asked me what path I thought was better..id be like hold off on getting serious. enjoy your youth, because there is no going back.

          • John Robin

            Does your “w” key stick too? 😉

            Yes, they are “two different things”, but so what? I have a problem with rape because I know it not only offends the victim, but God as well. I fail to see how an atheist can object to it, apart from purely personal and culturally conditioned preferences. Don’t You subscribe to the “if it feels good, do it” rule of life?

            After all, without God, there’s nothing intrinsically right or wrong.

          • rusty shackleford

            if god was so offended by rape….why was his punishment for rape (leviticus) to pay the father of the rape victim 7 goats and make the woman marry her rapist?….your god is a cruel murderer and sadist at best….or was god wrong about rape?…what say you mr. christian?

          • mikemazzla

            I guess that is the difference between you and me John. I don’t need a fake god to tell me what is right and wrong.. an not to rape and not to murder etc. I know that from my parents, and how I was raised, and by instinct not to hurt someone else.

            It is sad that your only reason for not doing those things your afraid of “gods” wrath. That is like a child not doing something because they are afraid of their mom… as you grow up you know what is right and wrong.

          • Will Fernandes

            Sure sounds like the average democrat.

          • KimWilde

            Apparently you have no morals and I would guess no ethics either ! Early sex without the benefit of marriage is the main downfall of American society. I also imagine that you’ve spread your share of STD’s in your dog humping ways.

          • mikemazzla

            That is the main downfall of American Society? lol People have been having sex before marriage forever..it is nothing new except that people are marrying later.

            Do you know what Syphillis is? It was a sexual disease very common way way back in the day.. Sex before marriage is nothing new.

          • KimWilde

            I’m wondering if you are dealing with Syp ? American society has been on a downward spiral for the past 150 years. Sex has always been with us and look at what it has spawned ! America is in the toilet like never before !

          • YeahNope

            STDs have increased steadily for the last decade, ~50% of children are born to unwed mothers, and over 80% of single parent households are on one or more forms of government assistance.
            Taking the above into account I think our society would benefit if more people displayed some of Todd’s restraint and responsibility.

          • mikemazzla

            And more than 50% of marriages end in divorce and more than 50% of spouses have admitted to cheating on their partners. You know life isnt perfect.

          • matt

            “oh 50% are doing it, so it must be ok!”

            Your stupid is showing.

          • vxzx

            riiiight so aim low – that’ll fix it! What a reject…

          • jaydeebee

            Actually, that’s a myth. I’ll even give you a liberal website to prove it (although there are tons of reliable sources to cite).
            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/07/divorce-myths-debunked_n_804934.html
            For example, about 23% of college graduates who married in the ’70s split within
            10 years. For those who wed in the ’90s, the rate dropped to 16%.

          • 3seven77

            You must have a sad life if sex is nothing more than “scratching an itch”.

          • mikemazzla

            Sometimes it is just for an itch…sometimes it is more than that. You are basically scratching that itch until the right person comes along where it because more.

            I have had sex just because I was with someone and the time was right and it was awesome…and I have had it with someone I love(d) and it meant more.

          • dtom2

            My son has a dog with more self control.

          • DragonsTalon

            You do realize that guys can buy Condoms, girls can buy spermicides…or they can just keep their clothes on and legs closed if they aren’t ready to be parents!!

          • safd

            Thankfully – you don’t matter other than as an albatross to society. It makes you angry that people know you’re stupid and devoid of potential doesn’t it?

          • mikemazzla

            I guarantee you my man my two degrees, my 20+ year marriage. my responsible job and my two high honor student sons would beg to differ. Just because I am ok with sex doesnt negate that.. I bet you I am less of a burden and have reached more of my potential than most…

          • angry

            the whole thing in the nut shell we are responsible for our own actions and if you are irresponsible everybody may have to pay for it even the completely innocent unborn child

          • jaydeebee

            Yeah, coming home with an STD or being pregnant from a one-night stand isn’t to bad.

          • bamared2222

            Nothing was wasted. I waited and it was so much better. Most people bring such a warped mind into a relationship after having many partners that they generally end up divorcing or committing adultery. Just because the body works that way, doesn’t mean you cant practice restraint. Ever wonder why AIDS and other STD’s are so rampant? Oh by the way, the teen years are NOT the prime sexaul years, those are only the experimental years. It isn’t until later on as people become closer and deeper in their marriage that sexuality becomes really great. You are just another punk who doesn’t even know what he is talking about. You are out of your class, fool.

          • mikemazzla

            LOl this punk has been married for 23 years to the same woman and have never cheated on her. You have no clue what you are talking about.

          • CTSadler

            You sound like a real catch! Women always love a man with absolutely zero experience.

          • matt

            And you sound like a real catch as well; women love a guy with multiple STD’s, no self-restraint, no discipline, no control over primal physical urges.

            You are painfully stupid.

          • wrestlingwithpigs

            Women also love the retro-Beverly Hills, 90210 haircut as well, there CT

          • CTSadler

            How would you know what women want?

          • matt

            I’m no expert, but no decent woman would want your leaky, droopy, dribbling toxic phallus anywhere near her. And if that’s your picture, you look the part, douche.

          • CTSadler

            How’s that virginity treating you, Matt? You realize you’re a self-hating homosexual yet?

          • rusty shackleford

            not to mention…what happens on their wedding night when she finds out he only has a 4 inch penus?…its best to get all that stuff out of the way BEFORE the eventual divorce

          • CTSadler

            Exactly! I wonder if they realize that just because they’re virgins, it doesn’t mean their woman is.

          • rusty shackleford

            oh no you didnt

          • Robert R.

            you look like a man

          • John Robin

            You go, Todd. Congrats to You and Your lovely fiance.

          • jaydeebee

            Congratulations, Todd. You won’t be sorry.

        • thehotfinger

          People didn’t used to wait until 30 to get married. Young people matured a lot sooner in life when avoiding poverty depended on it. Now it’s acceptable to live with mum n dad until well into “adulthood”. And if the folks kick you out, Father Obama will support you indefinitely.

          • WhoDat

            They also died in their 30’s and 40’s!!!

          • Chelyn

            What are you talking about? John Adams died at the age of 90 in 1826.

          • mikemazzla

            He is saying the average death rate was low/ Did you know that when the retirement age was established at 65..the average age of death was around 65-70?

          • thehotfinger

            I’m referring to a generation or two ago, not the dark ages for Christ’s sake! FUUUUUQQQQ!

          • mikemazzla

            That is correct and I do not disagree with you on that….my mom and grandmother both married at 17 ..which means they were having sex before that probably. But they also didnt go to college. But their bodies were ready for sex at that age and that doesnt change.

            The Obama thing is an argument for another day / People just want more out of life now..especially women which is why people wait.

        • Maud_StJames

          They should grow up a little and realize that if they are going to have sex, they should use protection.

        • Alex

          You are wrong, you believe that we are just animals following our “natural instincts”. God created us in His image to know right from wrong. Just because we choose the wrong path does not justify it. When we start to teach our children to have more respect for themselves then hopefully it will change.

          • mikemazzla

            When you start using a non existent god as your argument you already lose my friend. What is someone takes a while to find a wife or husband…they are supposed to never have sex ad they are supposed to ignore their bodies. Men and women physically are ready to have sex in their teens…that’s the way the body works and the way it was back in the day.

            having sex doesn’t mean you don’t have respect for our bodies or it is the wrong path..it just means that you want to have sex because you desire it.. You should be responsible yes, and you should used contraception if you dont want a child..but its just sex.

            I had was very active sexually in college and don’t regret it for one second. When I met my eventual wife it was exclusive..but until then I was just having fun. Nothing wrong with that at all

          • matt

            Shameless, blithering idiot.

          • Alex

            John, i guess it makes it easier for you to justify killing innocent Babies by choosing not to believe in God and that is your right as an American. However just because you don’t believe in Gravity does not mean that if you jump off a tall building that you will not have a sudden stop at the end.

          • John Robin

            Huh?

          • Zendigger

            Never mind, just jump and find out.

          • Alex

            My point exactly.

          • John Robin

            Alex, I have never justified killing babies. I think You might be attacking the wrong person. I do admit to believing in both God and gravity, but am a little confused why You’re addressing me.

          • Alex

            I apologize John, i was replying to Mikemazzla and must have replied to your post.

          • John Robin

            Alex, that’s OK! I figured that was it, my friend.

          • mikemazzla

            I don’t believe in god because there is no God. There is Gravity and it we all know it. My being pro choice has zero to do with my knowing there is no god.

          • Robert R

            Is gravity a law or not? If you deny it, you are denying a fact of nature. But if you believe it is a law, then the other inconvenient truth is that laws don’t write themselves. The rules of gravity are too constant to be an accident. What atheists don’t understand is that proving God doesn’t existence demands faith. You believe there is no God. You don’t know it, because nature has enough evidence that supports their being a Creator. You can not logically argue that existence in all its order and precision is accidental. Cause and effect is not something I created it exists. And if you believe in a big bang, guess what you are a fool! Hate to break it to you but that was the theory of a Catholic priest Monseigneur Georges Lemaitre. Whoops. An atheist couldn’t even come up with the idea, you need to latch on to the Church to prop up your arguments. Same with cell theory, genetics, and scientific theory. Galileo was condemned not for the idea, but for not being following scientific method and proving his theory. The Church didn’t say it wasn’t possible, it said, you need to prove a hypothesis for it to be considered fact. Mike if you want to run with the big dogs, you need to grow up.

          • rusty shackleford

            you believe there is a god….with absolutely no proof what so ever…in fact…you take that lack of proof and wear it as a badge and call it “faith”….no where else except for christianity can a total lack of proof (in you mind) equal “god”….except for in the minds of children when contemplating santa or the easter bunny

          • John Robin

            Mike, based on what You’ve said, we should expect that You would cheat on Your wife at the first opportunity given You by any attractive partner… if You haven’t numerous times already.

            “That’s how the body works”, right? The body is capable of sex with individuals besides Your wife, and You apparently have no moral qualms about having sex with anyone You’re attracted to, as long as “it’s fun”.

          • mikemazzla

            That is a ridiculous comment. Our bodies are made to want sex…its is something we are born with which is why at a very early age we start feeling sexual desires. masturbate etc. There is a difference between having sex for fun or desire and committing yourself to someone Two totally different things. Cheating on your spouse is a moral decision…having sex when you are not married for fun isnt

          • tcvegas

            Says who?

          • John Robin

            Morality? Whose morality?

            If You reject God’s existence You can appeal to no moral basis but positive laws imposed by individuals or social structures.

            I do not find any compelling power in arbitrary moral assertions from those who reject the only rational basis for transcendent moral law.

            “Right” and “wrong” for atheists amounts to whatever they like or dislike. Not much of a basis for a just society.

            We end up with people claiming it’s acceptable to kill their own children.

            To which I call “bullshit”.

          • Zendigger

            Maybe the non existent god will send you back to earth as a child to one of these radical feminist, and her abortionest is a person like Kermit Gosnell and you’ll be left on a cold table after he botched your abortion, and the only people to surround you will be people who think like you do now. God or no god, Karma is a b!+ch, and pro choice murderers deserve every bit of bad karma they sew.

          • Kylabee

            How many of your biological children were aborted? Did you manage to avoid STDs? Did your like minded friends suffer any of those fates? Yep –” not a thing wrong with that at all”

          • Kylabee

            mike, how many abortions did your wife have before she bedded you? Might want to keep close watch on her health: they’re linked to a HUGE spike in breast cancer risk. “Nothing wrong with that at all”

          • mikemazzla

            LOl well none that I know of… But again your comment on breast cancer and abortion is 100% off base. According to Cancer.org there is no link in any study linking the two. And there have bee a number of studies about that so far. The spike in breast cancer is linked more to hereditary factors, chemical. water, etc… basically what I am saying is that as of this point there is no link whatsoever to abortion and breast cancer.

            But that isnt even the point. No one is saying that getting an abortion is a good thing or ideal. It is a procedure that women should be able to do safely and legally

          • wrestlingwithpigs

            As soon as you dismiss the existence of God as a contraindication of someone’s intelligence or the merits of their argument is the moment I conclude you are an irrational rational person. Hence your nihilistic narcissism.

            Even Jerry Rubin condemned his own “If it feels good, do it” mantra to be the product of an immature and undisciplined mind.

          • 3seven77

            Boy you really “scratched that itch” and now you brag about it. Be honest, how many STDs did you catch?

          • mikemazzla

            LOl I got crabs once when I was 19 but that’s about it. I didnt say I had unprotected sex often…just that I had sex

          • dtom2

            A December 2013 Harris poll, the most recent one taken, has 74% of Americans expressing a belief in God. You’ll find yourself in the minority percentile. The fact that a progressive ( I already KNOW you are one) would demean the beliefs of the majority of Americans puts you in a category your type routinely disparages, that being an intolerant, bigot.

          • mikemazzla

            I suspect that a good portion of those really don’t believe. I know my mom would probably say she believed in a poll.. but I know for a fact deep down she knows the real deal…but it gives her comfort.

            Same for you I suspect. Deep down when you are alone and your head on a pillow thinking about it you know also.

            And for the record if you look at the demos of all this…Older people are far more likely to believe than under 30s and all. In addition as education levels rise you see less belief in god. So yes that stat may or may not be true in some way…but we know the trend…. as we evolve and understand the world we know the deal.

          • rusty shackleford

            its almost like the closer you get to death…..the more insane your beliefs become….and the total lack of proof somehow strenghthens ones resolve…….however…death is scary, so I cant much blame them

          • dtom2

            You certainly are an arrogant flippant prog. How dare you assume to KNOW what’s in the hearts of others? If you have knowledge of that which you say please present the proof. What I relayed to you is fact, Weather you choose to believe the people polled were being honest is neither here nor there. I live in a fact based reality. I believe because for me it is much easier to believe that where there is creation there is a creator. You hold a different belief, and that is your right. However, unlike you, I will not second guess what’s in your heart or what you believe when you lay your head upon YOUR pillow. It is neither within my capacity nor is it my business. And I WILL NOT disparage you because you are a non believer, by calling you silly. BTW, the church which I attend has an active very large body of young believers, and it continues to grow..Would it kill you to apologize for your intolerant bigotry towards Christians. I mean really would it?

          • rileystyle

            Physically we are as humans probably ready to have sex and procreate in our early teens (whenever a woman gets her first menses). Yet, legally every state has a statutory rape law that makes sex that early illegal. Is that wrong, Mike?

          • mikemazzla

            The rape law is between someone of the age of consent and someone not of the age. of consent. Which lets be real is arbitrary anyway. Same as being 21 to drink but 18 to vote and fight in wars.

            My point is that our bodies ready to have sex at an early age…emotionally are we ready to handle it at that age…nope…but I am talking about college age kids..adults..having sex

          • Robert R.

            Well someone made us. So who is the loser? If you learned anything in science you would have learned about DNA which is pretty complex to just be an accident. I don’t know of any “accidents” that can just happen with such an amazing degree of sophistication. Evolution is a process, and yet I never heard of a process just emerging from chaos with such sophistication. You sound like a pretty shallow and unreflective person. Even your use of the words “nothing wrong with that,” would be considered offensive to a man like Friedrich Nietzsche. What you may ask? If you were a thinking atheist or agnostic you would not be speaking in such simplistic terms as right and wrong, you would say that your actions were beyond good and evil. Fun is a very flimsy foundation to build a moral code. Finally, you seem to confuse natural urges with a necessity to satisfy those urges. Urges exist to strengthen ones will, but if you are not taught how to do strengthen the will you will not be able to master your weakness. I feel sorry for you and your ilk, you might be proud of yourself, but that could be more self-delusion than a fair appraisal of what you really are. Always be wary of a person who uses themselves a basis for a moral principle.

        • Roldan Fz

          Self-control.

        • doogiehowser

          No. They should grow up a lot and you should stop infantilizing them. They need to realize that you’re an adult from the age of 18, which is quite frankly a lot higher than it needs to be. (I left home for college shortly after my 16th birthday). They’re not ‘kids’, they’re immature and irresponsible adults, and abortion is one of the ways they choose to continue to be irresponsible (i.e. not be responsible for the life that they create). Now I’m a lawyer, practicing law at the age of 25, with two kids and a wife. My life choices are consistent with those of almost all of human history up until the sexual revolution, where we decided to extend adolescence until the early 30’s.

        • Brad

          Going by the immaturity that is glaringly obvious in your post, you’re the one who needs to grow up.

        • GFM2014

          I “expect” them to either wait until they are married OR take appropriate contraceptive measures so that they don’t need to MURDER an unwanted baby. You scabrous oaf.

          • mikemazzla

            Scabrous oaf LOL good one gramps. I agree that they should use contraception as I always did and I know my sons who are in college do ..but sometimes s–t happens.

            But you are also the same people who fight the morning after pill which prevents pregnancy…for some oddball reason you guys were against that also

          • civil duty

            The morning after pill terminates pregnancy, It does not prevent it.

          • mikemazzla

            See right there is why people like you are so misinformed. The morning after pill does not terminate a pregnancy..It is an emergency contraception that prevents sperm from fertilizing the egg.. not much difference than what the pill does. After 72 hrs it does not work and cannot stop pregnancy if fertilization has happened. get educated.

        • BraveNewWhirled

          Wow. No wonder this country is in so much trouble. All those presuppositions and not a speck of responsibility.

        • Ronaldus_Maximus

          There are tons of options to abortion. But, in this “nownownow” socety, why not? Find out your preggers, drop in for a quick vacuuming out of the vajayjay and back out to do it all again.

        • Jack

          You’re part of the problem and, of course, you don’t even realize it. Idiot.

          • mikemazzla

            I love you too gramps

          • City_Of_Champyinz

            Nothing more than the ramblings of a self-righteous I do whatever I want and its OK schmuck.

        • Chelyn

          “What do you expect them to do?”

          Perhaps use protection?

          • mikemazzla

            I dont disagree with you on that..if you dont want a kid you should…but sometimes s–t happens and if you are not ready for a kid you should not be forced to have it ad you should have a safe and quick abortion. So a college kid gets pregnant ad you think they should ruin their life and be forced to keep it?

          • Chelyn

            So you take an innocent life? Sorry we all make choices in our lives and there are consequences both good and bad. If a person was to find themselves in that situation they should consider adoption.

            Plus if she is taking birth control and he is using a condom the chance of getting pregnant is slim to none.

          • mikemazzla

            Chelyn I do not disagree on any of those things for the most part. I think abortion should not be taken lightly…but it should be done safe, and legally, and as early as possible.

            And I think the day after pill..which some on the right have called an abortion pill which is 100% false should be available.

            But I am sorry..I think it should be legal. I know girls when I was in college who got pregnant.. yes though what is irresponsible behavior..but were mature enough to terminate and move on with their lives . Forcing them to keep it to term is ridiculous

          • disqus_qG6DEDBc2V

            Why should abortion be as early as possible? what exactly happening at some point and when does it happen?

          • mikemazzla

            Well I ever saw the point in why people wait. And If I was being fair that is a fair question you ask. I am 100% ok with abortion..but I also realize that as time goes on those few cells start to grow and develop into a fetus and what will be a child. I see that. If you don’t want that child take care of it ASAP when there is no ambiguity about it.

          • disqus_qG6DEDBc2V

            Here is the problem with your argument. At some point it goes from from cells to life and this is difficult to judge. A heartbeat would be a good point, but most abortions happen after the heartbeat. So arguing that today it is right and tomorrow it is wrong is very difficult. I would not consider it cruel to be extra careful on judgment here (as getting it wrong is killing someone) and move that time as far left as possible. So maybe we say it is sometime between conception and 6 weeks when a heart beats. Now you get to decide or man does with it’s laws. But since you are an atheist, outside of man’s laws there is no consequence to getting it wrong. In fact, if it was made legal to kill an infant up to a year, than there would still be no consequences to an atheist. In fact, the NAZIs did just this, assigned less value to jews and handicapped and began ordering their death. Placing moral values in the hands of man is very difficult as right and wrong becomes very subjective to the thought of the day.

          • disqus_qG6DEDBc2V

            Might I suggest an atheist build moral values from nature. Nature dictates you may act to survive. You may take life to survive. Their is no reason to abort (take life) unless your physical survival is at stake which is ridiculously rare. Now, I know you will counter it is not living in the first 30 days or so, but that is a a highly subjective argument. The counter argument is regardless you took action that prevented you from changing a diaper 8 months later (subject to natural causes of course).

          • smerik

            You keep saying “s–t happens.” I guess that’s what you consider yourself after your parents’ contraception didn’t work. The rest of us don’t consider you to be just a piece of s–t and that is why we are against abortion.

          • John Robin

            Yes, Mike, I think parents should be responsible to care for their children, not kill them, or else entrust them to the care of others who can do so.

            When You have sex and conceive a child, You have become a parent, with the natural responsibilities of parenthood. In a just society parenthood does not confer a right to kill one’s offspring.

            Only in a barbarous society can it be permissible to kill the weakest and most defenseless among us.

        • parabellum

          That’s right, grow up and quit trying to take responsibility. Fun is the priority, after all.

        • Jim Red Beard

          No Mike you should get morals. Are we now dogs in heat that hump any passing willing partner. Doree10 is right on about life now and how it was before. It does not make it right under God’s rules but I bet you don’t believe in such dribble.

          • mikemazzla

            F God Stop bringing up god as your argument. There is no God there ever was a god. sheesh. Jeez grow the F up already with that nonsense

          • matt

            If there is no God, than anything goes, fool. Nothing is bad, nothing is good. Don’t you see that?

          • mikemazzla

            I don’t need to believe in God to know what is good and bad. That is like telling a kid to be good just because Santa Claus is watching them. Some of us just know what is good and bad.

          • G

            This is a good read. Just to educate Mike, there is no 100% responsible premarital sex. My wife and I have 5 kids and haved used BC part of the time. Twice failed. In fact, I think it likely could have happened to you. If you are like I was in my 20s, there are people you have had sex with that never had anyway of contacting you 12 hours later.

          • mikemazzla

            I am not sure what the point is…nothing is absolute. So the answer is to not have pre-marital sex ever because something “may” happen? It may be true about what you said..but as far as I know it hasn’t happened to me..but if it had you can be sure I would be the driving her to the “clinic” at lightening speed. If my college aged son ever got into that predicament I would also be the first one to take the girl to get it taken care of. And my son would be all over that. Hopefully it never comes to that but yes nothing is 100%.

            You do what you can and deal with issues as they happen..but certainly the answer is not “don’t have sex until you are married” and it is not forcing the couple to keep the child.

          • 1776

            Citing God in an argument is far more persuasive and proper than being profane, which not coincidently is the standard debating device of the typical Lefist.

          • mikemazzla

            yes because I have never heard a rt winger curse.

          • John Robin

            It’s often amazed me how hostile some atheists are toward a being they believe does not exist.

            It’s almost always a sign that a person is horrified that they will be held responsible one day by their Creator. So deny, deny, deny.

          • mikemazzla

            LOL ahh yes the old religious nut argument that hostility towards believing in god somehow means it is a sign that we actually do believe and will be judged..if that was the case wouldn’t I believe then> What would I get out of that?

          • John Robin

            Living as a child of God is tough for sinners like me. It’s hard work to avoid sin and grow in virtue. Some men decide it’s easier to laugh at God than to do the hard work.

            But You can’t find real happiness apart from God. Which You either already know or eventually will learn.

          • smerik

            Why does someone believing in God bother you so much? If you don’t believe then why so hurt and upset by what you say is just a myth?

          • mikemazzla

            Because they are using it as a basis to argue a point. If they want to believe that is their biz.. but you cant just make stuff up…which is what god is….made up.. to argue a point.

          • rileystyle

            how about arguing the law? If you believe that we as humans should just have sex when we are physically ready (our bodies want it) why does every state have a statutory rape law? Are all the lawmakers wrong?

          • John Robin

            “There is no God and there ever was a god”?

            Didn’t You say You have a degree in English? I believe in the existence of God much more than I do your English degree.

          • mikemazzla

            if your argument surrounds the fact that my “n” key sticks on my keyboard then you do not have much else.

          • John Robin

            Let’s take a tally. On your side:

            -You deny God’s existence (yet seem convinced of your own).
            -Your view of the meaning of human existence is ‘just do it if it feels good …because the body is built that way.’ (even though a society that freely tolerates this view will be destroyed from within by rapists, murderers, theifs, and psychopaths).
            -You are proud of your promiscuous years in college, and of the promiscuous lives of your sons.
            -Your wife can have no reason to believe You won’t drop her like a bad investment once your sexual interest directs You elsewhere. And she must already wonder if You have already been unfaithful to her.
            -You have a broken “n” key (or just bad grammar and a tendency to blame others).

            On my side:

            -I accept the highly probably if not self-evident truth that the universe and its contents must have a transcendent creator.
            -I am fortunate that my wife and I avoided intercourse before marriage, and know we have been faithful to each other for the past 27 years.
            -Our daughter in college is committed to remaining chaste until marriage.
            -All the keys on my keyboard work properly (even if sometimes my fingers don’t).

            All stand by the points I’ve already made, …even the irresistible poke about your grammatical error -er, stuck “n” key. 😉

          • mikemazzla

            LOl props on the keyboard comment/

            Just to let you know though

            – Married 23 years and going strong and never have cheated…I dont see it happening LOL Im too tired And for the record my wife was as active as I was in college. I have no problem with that.
            – I exist because I look i the mirror every day. As soon as God comes on down and shows him/herself Ill be the first one to welcome him
            – Good for your daughter..I guess. But I also think you are a little naive…or your daughter will regret her “chasteness”
            _ My sons,,,hmm well I don’t know how promiscous they are but I do know they have had sex.
            – I dont know is proud is the right word..I am glad I did it although I am sure there are some people I regret having slept with the day after…lol but hey that happens.

          • Zendigger

            Wow it must be sad going through life so soulless. If there is no God and no afterlife, then there is no higher authority to answer too. If that is the case then, humanity is just a pointless ploy to control the mass. Sounds like you would do fine then North Korea. There God is not allowed. You would live under the laws of a deranged humanist, your life would have no value only what ever contribution to the “greater good” would be relevant, even if that greater good is your execution. Think about it. In your type of godless world your death has more meaning than your life.You would be no longer eating up the resources that others could have. I pity you in your dark world, your are doomed by your condemnation of God, and the denial of, the existence of your own soul.

          • mikemazzla

            It souds like a good story but it isnt true.

            But your ridiculous North Korea example is pointless. I can point to every backward submissive muslim country who believes in God..wow that is a great thing to aspire to. You saying my belief is more akin to North Korea is like me saying yours is to overly religious muslim countries

          • Zendigger

            Actually like in case you don’t know Christians and Muslims and Jews are all children of Abraham, and we do have a lot of similarities. The failing of all religions is political idealism, but, God in not tied to any religions. Religion is way for the word of God to reach the hearts of man. I know some very insightful and good Muslims and I have know doubt’s about their place with God. But like most milliennialist list who have been brain washed by modernism, your pride and ignorance to history and facts will be your down fall and you and your type will be doomed to repeat it. There are many examples of Godless humanism. Lennon, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Jung Il, now Kim Jung Un, Modern Chinese communism. While the Inquisition killed a few thousand over a 400 year period. The above named secular leaders of the 20 century killed untold millions, because like you, they reject God, so inherently, devalue human life. No Mike I’m sorry you’re so dim that you can not see the similarities between your beliefs and the mind set of these monsters. Say bright boy, why don’t you look up who Margaret Sanger is. She is the mother of planned parenthood and an ardent racist and eugenicists. After you read about her, take a good hard look at yourself in the mirror.

        • John Robin

          Mike, “kids” are humans, not animals. Humans have a free will which allows us to determine how we will act. We are not ruled inexorably by instinct, like animals.

          Yes, it is wise, good, profitable, and beautiful to postpone sex until marriage. I assume I don’t have to list some of the numerous reasons for this.

        • matt

          There’s nowhere to start with you. You are that confused. Wow.

        • matt

          Consequences of premarital sex:
          STDs
          Millions of abortions
          Millions of emotionally damaged people (mainly women pay the price)
          Incomplete families, usually lacking fathers. If you doubt this is an issue, take a look at the abysmal black family structure, and try to connect the dots.

          But this stuff is no big deal, right? I just need to ‘grow up a little’.

          Damn you’re stupid.

          • Kylabee

            EXACTLY. When consequences are clearly seen by those wanting to participate in the behavior, if they then CHOOSE the behavior, they choose the consequences. Just like I’d love to go on a shopping spree with multiple credit cards, but I can’t. Same with sexual urges. If you see it for the minefield it is — STDs, unwanted pregnancy, people letting you down, breast cancer as result of having abortion, pain of wondering where the baby you put of for adoption is, single parenthood — you might not find it as palatable. Removing the consequences or stigma doesn’t, in the end, help those young people with strong urges. Urges can be ignored with reasoned free will.

          • matt

            This guy obviously has no concept of self-restraint, morality or self-discipline. No doubt he’s the cause of plenty of women’s permanent emotional damage, and most likely cheats on his wife, because that’s “how he’s wired”.

          • mikemazzla

            That is not the consequence of pre marital sex.. that is the consequence of irresponsible premarital sex. There are plenty of us who have had pre marital sex and have ever had kids, never had an std.

        • Polycarp

          Since when is being unable to control one’s urges a sign of maturity? I waited too! Because my parents had a thing called values and combined with a thing called standards leading to a radical right wing idea called self-control and taking responsibility for my actions. aka Maturity. This generation is lacking it because we eliminated the idea of God and a moral standard. Tell the kids they are animals and they will act like it. That’s why we have 45 year olds dressing and acting like highschoolers. We have a bunch of selfish kids who would rather kill the baby to keep on partying rather than taking responsibility for their choices. #kidnation

        • Robert R

          Sex is for procreation you dolt! And an anus is for eliminating fecal matter. If you want an amusement ride go to six flags. By the way, growing up means taking responsibility. Maybe you need to grow up. People can live without having sex. Self control is a possibility, but no one has courage to say, you want to have sex get married. And then the question is begged who wired them, and for what purpose? Whoops hate to burden you with a thought but before you speak out of your butt why don’t you think? But as long as people like you keep whining about having to wait for sex we as a species are just going to flounder in weakness. If we were so anti-human we would just let you abort yourselves out of the evolutionary plane. That’s where the pro-abortion movement is going, down the drain.

          • mikemazzla

            Robert your views are so outdated and wrong I don’t know where to start. Are you saying that if a person never gets married or does not want children they are ever to have sex?

            And the butt just for fecal matter huh? What about the mouth…you know that is for breathing and eating..but you know on occasion…if you are lucky it can be used for something else…or is that wrong also?

            My sister is straight but almost 45 and never has been married. You dont think she likes sex or wants sex?

            If someone gets married but divorced are they supposed to never have sex again until they may get married again?

            Your comment is a little sad and bizzare…but I guess on the bright side very few women have been subject to your obvious talents in the sack..because you sound like a ton of fun for some lucky lady

        • jj333

          Regardless. Do you really think in this day and age, there’s a reason for so many “unwanted pregnancies”, other than sheer irresponsibility and lack of morals on the part of those having sex?

        • fgd

          you should stop setting the bar so low and give people some credit – you stop enabling them and maybe they’ll have some self resepct and sel focntrol – just because you’re a moral failure doesn’t mean we should encourage everyone else to be – own your mmantle of loser and stop trying ot entice everyone else to join you…

        • jaydeebee

          That’s why I didn’t wait until I had the career, the car, the house, etc. until I got married. Yes, I married young. Did I miss out on anything? A few things–getting drunk, being promiscuous, partying until dawn and puking my guts out. Instead, I married and started a family. I’m not saying this is the route everyone should take, but it worked for me. It meant that we didn’t always have the creature comforts of life, but we survived.
          My peers who waited until their partying days were over until they married had trouble with fertility (women’s bodies only make babies for so long). Others are juggling careers and babies while in their 40’s. My beautiful children are grown now and my husband I are still young enough to travel and enjoy life. My daughters are married and I hope to one day be a grandmother while I’m still young enough to enjoy the grandchildren. Being a 20-something party animal may be some people’s cup of tea, but it has its price. You’ll look really cool for a while, but eventually you have to grow up.

          • mikemazzla

            Jay I am not going to begrudge your choices..if they worked for you that’s awesome. But that isn’t for everyone and thats my point. I agree that some wait to long and then have a problems with fertility.

            My guess is that you didnt go to college? You dont have a specific career..again not begruding that..but women now want that so while they are doing that they can party and have fun also.

            Everyones lives is their own. I partied a ton in college..a little after I graduated,..but got married at a relatively young 26 for a guy.. my wanted her first kid before she was 30 which we did. That worked for us. we both have masters degrees, careers, and kids. It worked for us Would I advise my son to get married at 25 No way…there is too much to do..but I would also not advise him to wait til he was 35 or 40 either because being the old dad is not fun lol

            Everyone has to grow up…but there is no point in rushing into adulthood either.

          • jaydeebee

            Actually, I have a master’s degree and make about $80 K a year. I chose to wait until my children started school to go back to college (with the full support of my husband, I might add.) When I was close to finishing graduate school, he told me that since I followed him around for the first 20 years of our marriage (he’s retired military), he’d follow me to wherever I found a job. Now he’s teaching and working on his second master’s degree. The children are grown. Two recently married–one at age 28 and the other at age 20. Both are very happy. We hope there will be grandchildren in our future. We’re having the time of our lives now that we are empty nesters. I found it easier to get hired in my late 30’s because I was done having children and didn’t have to worry about child care or getting pregnant and taking maternity leave. Life is full of choices. You sacrifice one thing or the other. I didn’t find giving up the partying lifestyle a problem at all. I guess some of us just prefer the mature lifestyle.

          • mikemazzla

            Like I said.. to each his own…although I find your ” I chose the mature lifestyle” funny. As if a person choosing to party in college while they are studying as some sort of a bad thing..or you wearing that maturity as a badge..but again it is what you chose and you are happy with it. I dont have daughters but I would be so unhappy if they didn’t go to college after HS and got pregnant early..Im not saying to wait too late but there is a happy middle. My wife and I met jr year in college…those 4 ( 2 before ad 2 after) years overall were a partying blur..but we also studied a lot, and we both have our masters.

            This is just my opinion, but I think those who get degrees late in life are great..but they totally miss out on the overall college experience…if they couldn’t afford it or needed tp push it off fine..but if it is because they had kids early..I think that is a major loss of life experience.

            You can always have a kid..but you cant always have your youth.

        • bamared2222

          Kids do have sex and that is a major problem. That is why we have so many single mothers, welfare cases, rapists, abortions, perverts, etc, etc. Self-restraint is not impossible and that comes from MATURE, SELF-RESPONSIBILITY, which apparently you don’t have. People who wait are definitely in the minority but much more well-adjusted and not living with a trail of failures behind them from being irresponsible. You probably think it is funny, but hopefully one day you will wake up and see your foolish ways.

          • mikemazzla

            well Ive been married for 23 years to the same woman..but doesnt mean before I found teh right woman i should have lived like a monk

            And I hate to break it to you but people who wait are just as much head cases and have issues as much as anyone else..dont fool yourself. I know just as many folks who married and “waited” and are divorced or have spouses that cheat. I know a ton of guys who didn’t experience life before they married and live with regret..you know the guys who populate strip clubs.. married men who are looking for something. I tell you one thing..it is not guys like me.

            You know how many “responsible” married guys who “waited” who look at porn online.. a ton of them… Do you know how many wives in this thread who think their husbands are all about them …check their internet history…lol sorry but that is the way it is..

          • bamared2222

            You are badly deceived because you live in the world. There is a different dimension but you choose to deny that realm, so you don’t know the true reality. I have been on both sides and I am likely much older than you and seen more than you claim to.

          • mikemazzla

            I have no doubt you are much older than me…and I am not all that young. You have bee to both sides LOLOL Oh man that is priceless.. Sure you have

          • bamared2222

            You missed the point again. And yes, it is priceless, but you have no comprehension of even what I am talking about. You are wasting my time. Have a good life pal.
            Subject: Re: New comment posted on University of Michigan Exhibit Celebrates Abortion as ‘Life-Sustaining Act’

        • doree10

          50-60 million babies-arms and legs sucked apart and ripped from their mothers bodies. Injected with saline that eats their bodies like acid. And it has been proven they feel pain. Fun, my God what is wrong with people like you? Grow up. REALLY.

    • truthteller13

      Out of state tuition and room and board is around $55K at Michigan!

      Parents, Is that money money well spent?

      • Alinksy

        Thats not for you to decide son

        • blancojoe

          I think he posed a question, did he not?

        • Grendel007

          He didn’t decide, he just asked…son

        • William Hofmeister

          But it is a fair question

        • Habner Crustipants

          Thanks dad…or big brother.
          I’m so glad you’re always there for me, thinking for me, making “better” decisions for me because I’m not able to think for myself.
          I wish you and your enlightened-few could be in charge of all of us neanderthals.
          I’ve read your book. Have you? Oh, also read “Utopia”. Really! Read em. and then stfu.

        • GoldenRudy

          Alinsky name — reptile avatar. Telling.

        • BenderIsGreat

          You get an F in reading and comprehension. Enjoy summer school.

        • texashorseman

          learn to read prior to posting, he was asking a question not making a statement.

        • GFM2014

          Your name, or rather nom de plume, broadcasts your imbecility to the world… One person I could have tolerated abortion for, and that is your namesake.

      • dedriannes

        In today’s world a teen can get a much better college education with on-line college courses and the cost is a fraction of sending them out to the same college. The colleges have much less influence with their political left wing crazies!

        • mikemazzla

          No real company would ever hire a person with an online degree… They are a joke, not accredited, and known to be a huge waste of money.

          • Morning Again

            And you don’t know anything you just said. In typical fashion, you just say whatever it is you think, regardless of the reality.

          • Rebelpirate1776

            And there’s the point, college is all about networking. Social connections are the only positive thing you gain at college.

          • jekyllisle

            Not now: company policy at my firm – nobody from Michigan St, Notre Dame, Harvard, UCLA, U of AZ

            Sick and tired of having to retrain “finance degree” grads on what is really going on

          • texashorseman

            Really? we have hired 3 in the past year. all very good employees, 1 ME, 1 document control Mgr and an QC manager. I guess since we have only been in business since 1978 we are not considered a real company. The applicants from fine universities wanted to know what we can do for them prior to asking about the job requirements.

          • Brad

            I’ve noticed that as well with many candidates I interview. The ones fresh from college reek of entitlement mentality and have a list of demands longer than my arm. They care more about what “stuff” they think they’re going to get than selling themselves to get the job offer.

          • mikemazzla

            Sure you have… please let me know what awesome online university these folks came from I am definitely curious because very few of them have good reputations.

          • City_Of_Champyinz

            every single comment you make is childishly condescending and the result is everyone who reads your drivel comes away with the perception that you are a total idiot.

          • Youdon’tmeanjack

            Idiocy abounds in your world, huh.

          • Brad

            You’re obviously very young and not well versed in the real world. Many brick and mortar universities offer online classes and degree programs to working adults. They are real, and I assure you, they are regionally accredited public and private universities.

          • mikemazzla

            I am in my 40s I have a son in college and another on the way. I have a masters in Finance and a BA in English.

            I agree that college today is over priced and if you choose a wrong major you are screwed. I think online classes have their place and if they are part of an established university thay have a role. But I would never ever hire a person with a degree from something like Phoenix.edu or one of those other for profit online institutions because they are worthless.

            Online learning has its place…but not for someone to get a full degree…if you cat afford to go away to school then you go to a live local school or a community school.

          • jekyllisle

            You do realize that employers are now looking at credit scores and history before hiring?

            Which will a company choose: a college grad that went to brick & mortar and has debt up to the ceiling or a college grad with the same paper degree and no debt?

            A good company will also look at the ingenuity a recent college grad has.

            Some punk whose parents paid his/her way through school so she or he could explore their bisexuality verse a hard working person who was smart enough to realize the importance of education, but the common sense of budgeting for it

          • mikemazzla

            I don’t disagree with you on the budget thing and the importance of having as little debt as possible coming put of school..but you infer things that aren’t true

            – Online classes are not free..and since they are for profit people take out loans for them and they are expensive..
            – You do not have to go to a expensive school..you can go to a pretty great state school. You can go local also and save on room and board if that is a concern.
            -No company is looking at an online degree from an all online school the same as a regular school.
            – No company will not hire a person if he/she has college debt. If that was the case no one would hire doctors or surgeons. Of they have a history of not paying debt or bankruptcy maybe that will factor im …but not for a kid out of college.

          • jekyllisle

            Not saying a company will not hire a person with debt…saying a company will look at credit and if it is bad they will not hire that person.

            This has been a fact of life since 2008, especially in the financial industry

            As for doctors and lawyers they are specialized and it is understood that there will be debt, but for a child to to rack up debt so they can graduate with a coloring class from any school at all then no there is no way employers will hire them.

            And yes this applies especially to kids out of college, employers understand that they are the most coddled generation to be in the workforce and that they will be a problem moving forward so companies are trying to limit the exposure if possible

          • jekyllisle

            As for your state school sure great, live in MA and pay over $95k for education at UMass

            UNH you will pay even higher, as for saving on room board sure that is $9k a year or $32k for a 4 year school

            As for degrees, as long as the online school is accredited than yes the degree is the degree and they are the same. The fact that you attended Harvard and got a BA degree in coloring and I went to Phoenix and got a BA in Finance and we applied at the same job my degree wins.

            If you want to say things are untrue fine, but the fact is an accredited college is an accredited college and they are significantly cheaper than brick and mortar schools

          • GFM2014

            It appears that your ignorance covers many different topics. Some online colleges (University of Phoenix is one) are accredited. They might be a waste of money for you, who thinks he knows everything and really knows nothing.

          • mikemazzla

            Thanks for proving my point. The University of Phoenix is a for profit institution owned by a hedge fund that has been on probation with their accreditation for a while now because of a to of complaints. Nice try though.

            Univ of Phoenix is known to be a Fng joke

          • dedriannes

            You go tell Harvard that. Most Universities offer on-line distance learning and it is accredited. Keep believing that and my son will have a choice of any college to attend. More space for him:

            http://www.extension.harvard.edu/distance-education

            Or Boston University:

            http://www.bu.edu/online/

            Or North Carolina A&T University

            http://www.ncat.edu/academics/distance-learning/

            I can add more if you would like. Accredited Universities need the money so they too are going on-line. New Mexico State, UTEP and so many more. And yes, companies love it for now they can ask you to refresh, up-date your resume because all you have to do is an on-line course or two.

          • mikemazzla

            My beef is with 100% online for profit colleges. like phoneix.edu They are a waste of money for students. I acknowledge that if a school like the above are offering certain courses online that can be of value…depending on the field of study. I have yet to see a resume of a person that has an online degree from any major university though.

          • dedriannes

            Well a friend of mine has gotten a 4 year degree through Phoenix that his company paid for. I think they charge way too much, as much as $600 and more a credit, but that is beside the point. His company paid for him to go to Phoenix, matter-of-fact they made it part of the requirement to be hired. Things are changing, which is good. One just has to do their research in my opinion. Leave the screaming liberals to their Ivy covered buildings and go another route. There are a lot of scam out there but there are a lot of accredited schools also.

    • mikemazzla

      Why is it brain washing? College gives students the opportunity to express whatever it is they are feeling. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean its brain washing. I don’t feel as though the clown who runs this website is brainwashing me…he is just writing stories based on his beliefs and I can choose to agree or disagree with them.

      If there was a religious group on campus that had a exhibit table ( which there is everywhere…) is that brainwashing?

      • Morning Again

        College gives students the opportunity to express whatever it is they are feeling???

        Just go away. College is about thought, not feeling. And you’re wrong. There are endless stories where free thought is met with violence. Just recently a PROFESSOR physically attacked a student demonstrating in a FREE SPEECH zone of a college campus. The professor was a “women’s studies” professor and the demonstrator a member of a pro-life group. Are you noticing the similarity?

        • mikemazzla

          yeah so what…Ridiculous… yes I am sure there are incidents of something happen..but you nuts want to frame it as some big conspiracy. and only left wing people cause problems and the rt wingers are just innocent bystanders lol Sometimes things just happen.

          I have a son in college.. a good strong state school with a good rep. He says almost every day there are religious groups all over trying to recruit people to their church or nonsense. Sometimes it gets heated because he doesnt like getting hassled all the time.

          It goes both ways… that is what college is. You rt wngers are kings of complaining and putting forth these they are out to get us complaints.. when it is actually you guys who push your backwards beliefs on people

          • GFM2014

            Your stupidity knows no bounds.

            Yes, it IS a conspiracy when 16 out of 17 university professors are LIBERALS, because they (and the teachers unions) have systematically excluded virtually ALL dissenting thought.

            And only libtards like yourself cause problems. For themselves, for America, for mankind. Liberalism is truly a mental disorder, and you are just about the most disordered person mentally on this thread.

            Are you an abortion survivor, by any chance?

          • City_Of_Champyinz

            well put, that guy is a complete and total fool on every level. His comments scream i am an idiot.

    • sydbloom

      F the parents. But if this critter spawn has gubmint grants and my tax dollars funding this ejumatation then we have a reason to discuss her use of time.

    • Brad

      The god they worship is Ba’al, so in a way they’re correct. You just have to remember which god they’re talking about.

      • kjane

        Is that another name for Molech?

  • seanpatriot

    You people are INSANE

    • Samuel

      Why are they insane?

      • LeSellers

        “seanpatriot” sed: “You people are INSANE
        “Samuel” axed: “Why are they insane?”

        We might also ask for clarification: Who are “You people”? There is no context.

        Mr. Magoo O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

        • Samuel

          Good point…

          • LeSellers

            The written word is often hard to understand because it doesn’t always transmit the context of one-on-one oral comms. That’s why we should aim to include context in replies.

            Mr. Magoo O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

        • seanpatriot

          libtards

          • Hans

            The correct spelling is libturds.

          • LeSellers

            Thanks.

            Mr. Magoo O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

  • jerry2286

    Abortion is murder, and state funded murder is genocide. The liberals and the DNC know this, and will stop at nothing to keep their abortion mills running at full stream.

  • HarryObrian

    Too bad Ault’s mother didn’t abort… maybe it’s not too late.

  • Andrew

    I have no problem with a history of contraception, that’s actually interesting. But to praise abortion? I didn’t think anybody liked abortion, it was just a necessary evil. But now i’m starting to wonder….

    • John Baker

      Sadly, to some, it is an occasion for celebration.

    • Lee

      “Necessary evil” . . . That’s how I looked at it back in my liberal days. But you can never be a true liberal until you CELEBRATE the death of children.

    • rocketw

      It’s not a NECESSARY evil. Forty years ago, at 13 weeks pregnant, because of a blood disease I was told I had a “10% chance of surviving delivery” and advised to abort. I thought, “I did this on purpose; I wanted this baby and I will survive. I’ll prove them wrong.” Went through the pregnancy fairly healthy and although the delivery WAS very, very tough for me, we are both alive today. “Baby” with a Ph.D. and saving faith in Christ, me also with the latter, still with the blood disease. Incidentally, ironically, the heroism at the delivery of this baby, the preservation of both of our lives, occurred at the University of Michigan Medical Center’s Women’s Hospital. For U-M to tolerate this “gift from God” nonsense is an OUTRAGE. I’ll show them a “gift of God” that they helped bring into this world: a generous and brilliant person, tops in his chosen field, with a wonderful sense of humor…

      • morefandave

        Thank you. Your message was inspiring. You have already been rewarded for your courage and moral stance, but congratulations anyway. Your message deserves to be spread to a lot more people than will read this discussion.

        • rocketw

          Aw, thanks! You’re very kind! Whatever was done through me, of course, was done through God’s care and by His will.

      • Bill

        YES!!! May God Richly Bless you. (it seems he already has) I hope you have a happy life and that when it’s your time, you’ll be welcomed into paradise with a Smile from the one who we owe EVERYTHING to.
        You made me smile.

        • rocketw

          May God bless you in equal measure, Bill, for the way you have blessed me with your reply… Thank you, more than I can express here. And I thank the One Who gave everything He had, so that we can enjoy Him and the Father for eternity!

      • rockbit

        Incredible story! Looking forward to meeting you when we are both home!

        • rocketw

          And I look forward to meeting you as well… As we say, “see you in the morning…” That great morning!

      • Jesusbuddy

        Wow, I have tears rolling down my face reading your testimony here. You are a true saint of the Living God who declares His love for us so richly in His son. What a testimony! I asked the Lord to bless you and I distinctly heard, “i have blessed her and will continue to do so evermore,” Thank you for your taking a stand for life dear woman!

        • rocketw

          Oh, my, Jeff — you have no idea how much I needed to hear something like your reply! The blood problem (aplastic anemia) is exacting a price now and I’ve been wondering, where is my Lord in this? And here, you reply… Dear brother in Christ, I pray for His blessing upon you; may He care tenderly for you in all of your circumstances as well!

  • Larz0

    It is a gift from the god of this world (Satan).

    • Tmkreliant

      Amen to that!!!

  • Snow

    They are probably referring to lucifer as god.

    • tnmccoy

      Or Baal. Or Osiris.

      • Tim

        Or Molech.

  • leslie

    Well yet another soulless liberal. Seriously what is with you women and your joy in the killing of your babies? I will never understand it.

    • 1776

      I know several women who had abortions. None of them felt joy after they did what they did. So these hags glorifying the practice are evil personified.

      • DJH78745

        Exactly, it is amazing the ignorance and stupidity with which the mindless left rejoices in abortion… yet nearly every woman who has had one feels no cause for rejoice, many suffer from depression afterward.

        These people aren’t evil, they’re ignorant.

        • GoingTactical

          No, they are evil, too.

        • Shawn Chapman

          There are contributing factors in the determination of Evil vs: Ignorant. Ignorant is simply a lack of knowledge. Evil… well, we have a living definition with Ms. Ault.

        • Grendel007

          The mindless left does not believe they will be held accountable for their actions in the next life, and are trying their best to do away with consequences in this one

      • rlo

        And no one cares what the man feels about it. Admittedly, a lot these days do not care, but some do. I had a GF in my late teens (~38 years ago). She broke it off and then she said she was pregnant. Came to me and told me she was going to go kill it the next week. Will never forget that moment. I had no options.

        • Aussievick

          I know how you feel. When I was in nursing school, I worried about that issue, but our school was wise enough NOT to have us attend one at a local clinic especially when we did our OB rotations. It saved me from making a public stance against it & refusing to attend. Luckily our instructor in that area was very prolife, so I know that figured into the training we received.
          So sorry for your loss……………….and it IS a loss!

        • Bill

          RIO.. Like you I’m a guy who made that terrific mistake. The pain it’s caused me as I’ve grown a brain has been monstrous.
          Good Men need to stand up and be willing to take the HEAT and HATE filled name calling and be heard. If it saves one woman or child, it’s worth it. SAVE YOUR SOUL.

          • rlo

            I know. I have never talked about it but think about quite often. It is a haunting that I cannot shake and have never talked to anyone about. You’re right, though. Men should start standing up and being men instead of the PC metrosexuals that liberal society wishes us to be.

    • GoingTactical

      I’m all for mandatory sterilization of lib-tards.

    • zagnut64

      Self hatred, every time they look in the mirror they see the evil that they are.

  • Txgirlinnh

    I am speechless. The ‘abortion is a gift…’ one literally made me feel nauseous.

  • pilgrim4jc

    And the University will next hold a pro- life exhibit. What am I saying, this is a public university that wouldn’t be allowed. 🙁

  • toledofan

    And people are paying good money for their kids to learn this! How pathetic and sad that people promote and elevate murder and try to make it socialy acceptable.

  • 1984

    Double plus good! Remember ignorance is strength!

  • IndianSoul

    I am pro choice,but I think this exhibit is absolutely Evil.

    • GoldenRudy

      So you just like the murder of unborn babies hidden behind closed doors? Like those embarrassing camps in Poland? And are you “pro choice” on the 2nd A or school choice too? Or just when it comes to the stopping a beating human heart? Think about it, please.

      • IndianSoul

        If a woman is raped, or her life is in danger, I believe she should be allowed to abort the pregnancy.

        • GoldenRudy

          So, you believe in taking an innocent life. Did you know PP’s patron saint (sic), Maggie Sanger, wrote that abortion was the taking of a life at any stage of the pregnancy? She did in response to an encyclical by Pope Pius XI.

        • GoldenRudy

          But what is the unborn child guilty of that he/she deserves a painful death at the hands of an abortionist or chemical agent? Even Maggie Sanger wrote that abortion at anytime in the pregnancy is the taking of a human life. Re-think your pro-choice position, please.

  • foramerica

    This is beyond disgusting. They attempt to deceive people further by glorifying the butchering of innocent children. What a sick society we’ve become.

  • Casey_J

    Instead of ‘reproductive freedom’, how about some reproductive responsibility? You would think that after all this time mankind would evolve enough to understand the concept of self control. Guess that doesn’t make for interesting artwork, though.

    • oilcanp

      Man has made himself into an aminal.

  • Overfiend

    Saying abortion is a gift from God is like saying Planned Parenthood supports Pro Life Rallies.
    Neither is true and both sound idiotic.

  • bigtom

    Really sick. This is what our universities teach. No wonder our education system is in shambles and the world frowns upon us.
    Maybe the gift from God is that this jerk never becomes pregnant, and if she does and doesn’t abort it, she gives birth to a baboon.

  • Jason

    Like the Bible says, those who live according to the dictates of Satan, call Evil good and Good evil.

  • tom

    Our tax dollars at work. These people are sick celebrating abortion.

  • IndianSoul

    I guarantee this Heather Ault does not believe in God. For her to use God in this exhibit is beyond Sick and Twisted.

  • Steve31

    demonic

  • James A. Daugherty

    Best contraceptive is still copious amounts of cyanide administered orally.

    • LeSellers

      Sorry. Oral contraception is the most effective.

      While cyanide is efficient (dead women have no children), there is a certain unacceptable cost.

      Woody Allen (aIr) gives us the key for oral contraception: “[His] girl friend practices oral contraception. She says, ‘No.'”

      Mr. Magoo O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

      • yobuff

        Woody Allen doesn’t care when women say “no.”

        • LeSellers

          History proves you right.

          But the sentiment is the issue addressed above. “Just say, ‘No’,” is not only for drugs.

          Mr. Magoo O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

  • JL

    Interesting how they weave contraception in to draw false equivalence between that and abortion. This attempt reduces abortion towards an amoral act. But that’s the Left for you – always trying to change the argument.

  • DevinDenver

    I wonder if this “history” of abortion project included any homage to Kermit Gosnell – for wasn’t he just a true GIFT to women’s health issues?

  • Stranex

    Hell is hot, people.

  • meme

    The Day of Judgement is coming soon, are you ready?

  • Dawn McColm

    Hell is a gift from God for those who practice and condone the killing of innocents.

    • Younis Mourabi

      Now practice taking Satan’s massive caulk, and be thankful for the opportunity of an eternity!

  • artfuldgr

    “anything 46 million women do every year can’t
    be immoral.”

    by that definition, hitlers ovens, stalins camps, and maos fields are very moral things..

    • Dwan Parkyn

      I’m guessing the argument there would be, “men did those things.”

      • Tim

        Men impregnated them – so it seems men are also part of this “moral” process.

        • Morning Again

          But only when it comes to blame and financial responsibility. Men can be expected to pay child support or have no say in the abortion. And now, men are paying for that, too, thanks to Obamacare. But, you know, it’s a women’s rights thing, a feminism thing, to blame men entirely for something it takes a man and a woman to accomplish, then to stick the man with the bill.

    • Aussievick

      Ever met a liberal who took a course in logic? They never cease to amaze me with their “illogic logic.”

  • Jason

    I now understand, their “god” is Obama, the giver of other people’s money

  • Clemmieo

    To each his own; although with being able to see that child inside of you nowadays, I don’t know how you can abort it; but it is your decision of course. I am glad that I didn’t do that because I have a very handsome son, intelligent and successful in his life and with a beautiful family. How many such pregnancies would have produced such marvelous people. So many that we can’t even count them.

  • George Layman

    How do these radical imbeciles actually become teachers of our Youth? Affirmative Action? Bribery? Blowing their teachers? This is the education parents struggle to pay for? How about teaching students skills they can apply in real world jobs.

    • DevinDenver

      Education? This project purportedly shows the “history” of abortion and includes such diddies as “abortion has been practiced since the beginning of time”. Well, a true scholar of history would be required to back up these claims with source data. Do you think Ault did? History? Education? Bah. Now if an “artist” decided to do a similar project extolling the virtues of America’s slave-owning past, you couldn’t count the opponents waiting to disscet every little fact included (if they would have been able to do the project in the first place)!!

  • rplat

    Mindless, hedonistic, godless liberal academics . . . what else could one expect.

  • peasant

    Democrats, brave enough to kill babies but not the enemy.

    • DevinDenver

      Or the serial murderers!

    • Tim

      Babies can’t fight back.

  • Liberalsareblind1

    “Abortion is a gift from God?”

    Isaiah 5:20: ” Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. “

    • 1776

      It is almost as if God had Heather Ault specifically in mind when He drafted that one… Not that she cares, but I hope she reads these comments.

      • William Hofmeister

        Big assumption that she can read. Even bigger that she can think.

      • Orpheus75

        I believe that he had this whole generation in mind.

        • Brad

          It is written that there is nothing new under the sun. It’s been like this ever since Satan tempted Eve.

        • Lola Guin

          Let’s not throw out the baby with the bathwater. There are plenty of pro-life people in Generation Y. If not for their Baby Boomer parents, many of whom supported Roe v. Wade, perhaps there would be more of us. There’s plenty of blame to go around. The truth of the matter is that this is a good vs. evil issue, not a young vs. old issue.

          • Doc VB

            That is so very true (and your comment about “throwing the baby out with the bathwater is quite apt! 😀 )

            I see many examples of good, smart, and thoughtful youth every day. Not all the Gen-Y and Millennials are lost causes. They just need to be reminded of what “choice” really means…and that consequences accompany every single choice!

          • nostudme1

            Or throwing it out with Gosnell’s toilet water.

          • PW Shields

            Agreed. All seven of my children (ages 16-31) are pro life.

      • Doc VB

        LIFE is a gift from God.

        Abortion is the theft and destruction of someone else’s gift.

        • mikemazzla

          And yet god does nothing to stop abortion…wow if he hates it so much why does he let it happen…hmm maybe because he doesnt exist?

          • Mike

            Rather egocentric of you mikemazzla considering God gave you the free will to act as if you were a god yourself so that you might know Him better … and look how poorly you have behaved, not even recognizing that He exists and that the miracle of life is His precious gift to behold that you could not even lift a finger to defend.

          • PW Shields

            Its called free will Mike

          • wvernon1981

            So Yahweh cares more about the free will of a murderer than the life of an innocent child?

          • SamIamtwo

            No he doesn’t but you get a choice. Wide is the path that leads to destruction…take the narrow road and make good choices.

            What you want to be a puppet on a string?

          • wvernon1981

            Well, if abortion is taking the life of a child and allowing abortion is necessary for free will, then Yahweh must care more about free will than child murder. If not, then God would suspend free will temporarily and stop child murder.

            Sent from Windows Mail

          • Bob G

            Free will means you can follow the path God gives you or the road that Satan paves. God does not control you. He offers you a direction through life. Your choice is to follow Him or not. Only the ungodly will commit murder of children. Those with respect for life and God will do the right thing.

          • Except when god tells you to murder your children, then it’s admirable, right? Seems legit

          • DevilDog Ding

            Yeah. Exactly. Idiot.

          • No need to go around calling Christians idiots, DDD. That doesn’t get us anywhere

          • DevilDog Ding

            I wouldn’t have guessed you were a Christian, GSP

          • I’m not, but that doesn’t mean you can call Christians idiots for believing its okay to murder your kids if God tells you to

          • DevilDog Ding

            Then I was right the first time. You are an idiot. Now, please make like that sweet prince and let a flight of angels of angels carry you away, though that probably’s not going to happen either.

          • Your sophomoric namecalling and lack of any substantive contribution leads me to believe you are a super awesome Christian. I bet JC went around calling people idiots, too

          • rusty shackleford

            if you read the stories he did have a penchant for calling people sons of the devil, broods of serpents, and the like…(I think that was a big deal back then)

          • rusty shackleford

            how was he an idiot?…God told Abraham to kill his son Isaac…did you miss that one in sunday school?

          • Bob G

            God doesn’t tell you to do anything. He shows you His way and you are free to follow Him or not. How you kids have become so twisted in your thinking reflects on your upbringing, therefore your parents. And probably your public school teachers. I feel sorry for you because the problem will continue to persist through your own children. I, my family, my grandchildren will never have to live with your anger and sarcasm.

          • That’s strange, because the Bible cites numerous occasions where God directly tells people what to do

          • rusty shackleford

            you repeat catch phrases like “god gives us free will” to excuse his inaction when people ask why would god let my 4 year old daughter be raped?…screw you and your god (that you have no shred of proof of)…and youre proud of that lack of proof…you take that lack of proof and package it up and call it “faith”…and then somehow you thinkthat makes you better than people who dont believe in fairy tales….nice try a55hole

          • Bob G

            I can understand your anger after what happened to your daughter. I would feel the same way. There has been times in my life when I have cursed God for the things happening around me. And I don’t consider myself any better than the next person. Well, that’s not entirely true. I am a better person than the clown living on Pennsylvania Avenue. Please don’t be offended if I say I will pray that God assuages your grief.

          • Jim

            “Only the ungodly will commit murder of children. Those with respect for life and God will do the right thing.”

            HMMMMMMMMMM……………

            “This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, *******children and infants********, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’”

            1 Samuel 15:2-3

          • Bob G

            Just like the lame stream media. Report only what you want. Keep reading down the page. It didn’t all happen just the way you tell it. Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Big fail son.

          • Jim

            I quoted the Bible and that’s exactly what God said to do. Nothing further down the page changes that. I love how Christians only take their book seriously when it suits them.

          • Jim

            Further down the page:

            “Then Saul attacked the Amalekites all the way from Havilah to Shur, near the eastern border of Egypt. He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and *****all his people he totally destroyed with the sword*****. But Saul and the army spared Agag and the best of the sheep and cattle, the fat calves
            and lambs—everything that was good. These they were unwilling to destroy completely, but everything that was despised and weak they totally destroyed.”

            And then God got mad at Saul because he didn’t kill all the sheep and cattle. He didn’t give two bits about all the children and babies that died though.

          • virago

            God doesn’t allow it, we do. Grow up.

          • wvernon1981

            Clearly God does allow it because He doesn’t intervene.

          • Zendigger

            Yeah God intervenes but not in the way you think. Your such an ignorant child. You have obviously never faced death or lived in poverty. I bet nothing in your life has significant meaning. When your time comes you will turn to dust unable to bear the truth…your words will come back at you and the devil will be smiling at your pain and grief…and well, God, You turned your back on him in your life, so in the end he will turn his back on you in your death. Pity you.

          • wvernon1981

            God…Satan…Spooky stuff….

          • judaic bolshevist mammonism (baphomet) = mahomet (muslim brotherhood)

            same devil

          • rusty shackleford

            why would the devil smile?….is he not sentenced to the lake of fire to be tortured as well?….you make it sound as if he is the owner of a bed and breakfast in hell…and god holds the mortgage….are you saying that satan and god are partners?…I thought christians were smart…..I thought god did the torturing…not satan

          • Zendigger

            Because I did not give the answer you want that makes Christians dumb? Yes Rusty the Devil works with God. Who do you think made God test Job? God does not torture us. We are tortured in hell by the abandonment and hopelessness we put ourselves into. Satan is an arch angel who was the epitome of perfection who refused to bow down and serve man. He is often confused with the fallen angles or the beast, the leader of this group of angels was called Arakiba, who really was the original Lucifer. Satan is not the anti Christ but the guardian of hell and a grand tempter whose purpose is to always bring out our worst in order to show God how unworthy we are. I’ll tell you what, why don’t you go read the book of Enoch for yourself.

          • rusty shackleford

            the devil made god do something he didnt want to do?…perhaps he isnt that powerful of a god to be bitchslapped around by satan….the devil works with god?….funny, I thought he was booted from heaven for working against god?…lol…the book of enoch?….so you suggest I read the appocraphia as oppossed to the bible?….I thought the bible was gods inspired word….why isnt the book of enoch in there?….you arent very smart are you?….you know just enough to be a danger to yourself

          • Zendigger

            Wow Rusty, it’s suggested reading cause, thought you might want to learn from other historical view points The Book of Enoch is in the bible of the Coptic church which is one of the oldest forms of Christianity.By the way I think the word you meant was Apocrypha which is to say, false knowledge. Which seems to be the only knowledge you have. You seem to think all Christians are bound by some weird evangelical dogma that holds them to the bible and unable to read any other thoughts or views. Ever heard of Saint Augustine, how about Walter Bauer from the early 20th century, he wrote about christian diversity, C.S. Lewis, or even Joseph Campbell? You’re not even worth the time of day anymore. Your doomed by your own arrogant small world stupidity.

          • packstevewood

            Matthew Henry’s writings are good commentary also.

          • rusty shackleford

            HUH?..I cant even get past the first sentence…(is that even a sentence?).if you come back and fix this misspelled diatribe I might be able to answer you….But I cant make sense of it the way it is…..(you did that on purpose didnt you?)

          • Ben Dragon Saparis duyuyorum…

            judaic bolshevist mammonism (baphomet) = mahomet (muslim brotherhood)

            same devil

            Marxism is the cult of a dead Jew, your Tikkun Olam paganism and Judaic word fetishism… Just how does the Jew get to heaven from dry humping the Wailing Wall like Miley Cyrus?

          • Mary DeLongchamp Mandigo

            They don’t want to hear the truth! They’d rather believe the lie and make up foolish questions. But God is still in control. God will have the final answer. And you don’t think Satan would smile? Of course he does! He’s not God. He’s not omnipotent! He’s a fallen arch angel who still thinks though he knows he’s doomed will still try to the very end!

          • anonymous

            ….yet..the Jury’s not here yet on that Judgement….

          • Patrick Henry

            This world is presently under the authority of the god of this world until the Almighty God redeems this planet when He establishes His Millennium reign, aka the DAY of the LORD.

            “…forget not this one thing, beloved, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”.

          • wvernon1981

            There isn’t any evidence that such a judgement will ever occur.

          • Pali

            It makes you more right the more you talk.

          • Josephine

            If you could “prove” God’s existence (one way or the other), then you remove the possibility for true choice (Free Will). Just think about it.

          • wvernon1981

            Satan and a third of the angels supposedly knew God existed yet had free will and rebelled.

          • Josephine

            Satan and his ilk fall into another category of being (literally and figuratively).

          • Zendigger

            …”supposedly knew”, Oh yeah, the fallen ones knew him, and knew they would be punished. You obviously have never read the book of Jubilees. There are many great philosophical writings on the subject. Carl Jung also has a great view on the subject. But by your rantings I doubt you even own a book, or much less know how to read one.

          • wvernon1981

            I say supposedly because everything in the Bible is supposedly.

          • Zendigger

            As a gentile Christian, I am only concerned with the truth of the gospels. As a soulless liberal, you should be concerned about the lie you call your life.

          • Jim

            “As a gentile Christian, I am only concerned with the truth of the gospels.”

            You’re actually kind of a dick and ought to think about how you come across when talking to others.

          • Zendigger

            Oh I’m suppose to play nice about abortions, while lame reptile brained liberals, like yourself, can spew what ever obnoxious, ignorant, stuff that comes to mind? For a person who comes to the defense, of those that justify the murder of the innocence, you sure seem to have a thin skin. Just like those unborn babies your so eager to kill….so hey big baby, go back to sucking your thumb in the fetal position. Murder of the innocence is not nice so neither am I. Get over it.

          • Jim

            Fine, just don’t call yourself a “christian” when you’re unwilling to act like one. Just stick with “republican” or “conservative”.

          • That’s a pretty lame cop-out

          • Josephine

            No it’s not: if you had incontrovertible evidence (e.g. God comes down and does a song and dance for you), then choice is no longer a factor.
            It’s not that hard to understand.

          • If God came down to earth and did the Macarena, I guarantee you there would be people still denying it and going the other direction. If Allah or the Flying Spaghetti Monster presented himself, would you burn your Bible?

          • Josephine

            1) Incontrovertible. Look it up. If you’re going to answer a hypothetical question, just go with it.
            2) Why do you assign a particular category to a believer? Why do you assume I’m Christian? (Not that there’s anything wrong with that…)
            Your statement says more about you and your biases.

          • Nice deflection to avoid answering my question. Just as there is incontrovertible proof that the book of Genesis is wrong, yet people still believe it happened.

          • Josephine

            Genesis is an allegorical explanation. Evolution is a mechanism. And God exists….
            How now brown cow?

          • What’s strange is that I’ve never found a copy of the Bible that said “BTW this is all figurative and don’t take any of this seriously”. Please tell me which part of the Bible says it is “allegorical”

          • Josephine

            I don’t want to get sidetracked into your arguments against the Bible. Evolution happened. Move on.
            I would like to know what you call yourself: you deny the existence of God (by any other name) so that makes you either an agnostic who questions, or an atheist who denies.

          • I don’t deny the existence of a divine force. I deny any and all holy books written by corrupt men seeking control of the citizenry.

          • Josephine

            Then just SAY that at the outset, instead of wasting time and energy.
            Kind of ironic, by the way? The fact that you care indicates a desire on your part to investigate and control your surroundings. Maybe you’re part of the problem as well.

          • I don’t understand how time and energy has been wasted. In addition to my “denomination,” what other details do you expect anonymous commenters to reveal at the beginning of a discussion? I never brought up Deism so I didn’t see how it was relevant

          • Josephine

            Oh, and I realize that tangoing with a “materialist” (metaphysically speaking) is a complete waste of time. You will NEVER (repeat, NEVER) have sufficient material evidence that will prove that God exists…or not (even Richard Dawkins admitted that he couldn’t completely rule out the possibility, much to his chagrin. “6.9 out of 7″…that was his estimation). It’s all part of the design. And that’s why people have something called faith.

          • And now you have revealed your erroneous bias. I am not an atheist. At least my bias seems to have been accurate about you

          • Josephine

            Then what are you, Mr./Ms Mysterious?

          • Deist

          • Josephine

            You need to explain this better. What is your deal? Why are we having this conversation?

          • We are having this conversation because that’s what people do in comment threads. People were throwing around fairy tales and trying to relate them to abortion. I simply asked questions about those arguments and no one seems to be able to respond with a logical, rational explanation

          • Josephine

            Frankly, Prince, what you’re describing is somebody acting out of boredom and self importance.

          • I’ll grant you there is a bit of boredom involved. However, I regularly challenge followers of holy books because I am an analytical, logical person. If you are familiar with the fundamental principles of science, you will understand that everything must be tested again and again. If I didn’t regularly challenge mine and others’ beliefs, I would be subject to less than the truth. That may work for you, but not for me

          • Josephine

            Since you’re a self-described deist, do you challenge your own reasons for believing as much as you challenge other people?

          • Yes, I do. I only believe that which can have a logical explanation. If I cannot answer a question, I seek the answer or it is simply “unexplainable at this time.” Organized religions try to fill in the blanks of the unknown with random falsehoods instead of just admitting that some things we don’t know.

          • Josephine

            Sounds more like you’re an antagonist “spoiling for a fight”, mon ami.

          • Jim

            “It’s all part of the design. And that’s why people have something called faith.”

            Faith is, to use a phrase I saw elsewhere, “pretending to know what you don’t know”. There’s no value in it other than making people who’ve latched onto the same delusions feel good about it.

          • JimmyIsTired

            Do you have anything to add to the conversation or are you just another typical trolling atheist [email protected] coward?

          • wvernon1981

            I seem to be making substantive posts here unlike your response.

          • JimmyIsTired

            No not really. You come across as a garden-variety Troll and just another Leftist Politically-Correct atheist coward who is too scared to attack the homosexual pedophile child-raping false-prophet known as Muhammad.

          • HalfMoments

            Since evidence are based on things that have occurred, dumb statement. Not shocking based on everything I have read from you. BUT based on the evidence that does exist, maybe you should look into it. Well, before you finish frying your brain with those drug anyway.

          • Josephine

            For those who believe in God, a higher power, or something greater than themselves, no explanation is necessary; for those who don’t, no explanation will suffice…

          • yet another lame cop-out

          • Josephine

            No, it’s a fundamental difference in attitude. Again, your comment is a reflection of you and your thinking patterns.

          • It’s actually both, a cop-out and a difference in attitude. I only believe in things that there is a reason to believe in. You believe in whatever your parents told you to believe based on what their parents told them.

          • Josephine

            Okay, then if you’re really a “deist”, what is your compelling reason to believe? (This should help occupy you for a while)

          • Actually, it’s a quick answer. Laws of physics maintain that a stationary object requires outside forces to move it. In order for the big bang to happen (or any motion of any object), there has to be a prior action. At some point in the span of time incomprehensible to us, there must have been an outside force to set it all in motion

          • Josephine

            Oh, so God is the “Force”….. Good for you. Whatever floats your boat. Dare anyone disagree with you.

          • I welcome all who disagree. If we as people never exchange ideas, we will never truly know the truth. Funny enough, however, is that most our key forefathers were Deist and Congress specifically said that we are not a Judeo-Christian country nor are we founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Somewhere along the way, people seem to have forgotten those details

          • Josephine

            Well, it’s been nice chatting with you, Mr. “welcoming all who disagree” (although it’s a little funny how you’re seeking people to disagree with, regardless of what their stance is). Ciao.

          • And you as well. Just imagine how boring life would be if we never met anyone who disagreed with us. Progress of any kind basically wouldn’t exist

          • yerfackingmammy

            He hasn’t smacked you silly, either.

            Amazing, isn’t it?

          • wvernon1981

            Yeah. It’s almost as if God doesn’t exist.

          • uncorrectedvision

            He does indeed intervene, didn’t Texas just pass a law making some abortions illegal and contracting the ability of abortion clinics to operate so brazenly? Isn’t the opposition to abortion by an increasing number of young people proof of that intervention? What form do you think Godly intervention takes, armies of angels?

          • wvernon1981

            No. It’s evidence that some people care about abortion. No god needed for that.

          • 1unit_31

            You are a lost cause. Keep your thoughts and see just where you end up

          • wvernon1981

            How or why do you need a god for that?

          • Zendigger

            You’re right you don’t need God, if your goal is oblivion. Your low value on life is an indication how poorly you must view yourself.

          • suqsid4

            Who would God prefer, the pro-life atheist or the pro-kill believer?

            I’m not an atheist.

          • Pali

            The pro-life atheist. He is the one obeying the Natural Law, of which God is the Author.

          • I thought JC told people to do whatever they wanted, and he could get them in the door at the end.

          • Pali

            He never said any such thing. Read the gospels. You’ll be amazed. Seriously.

          • John 3:16, John 3:36, Mark 16:16, and Romans 10:9 (among many others) disagree with you.

          • bamared2222

            You pervert these scriptures if you think they are teaching that you can do whatever you want just simply by saying you believe in God. Heck, even the demons believe in God….and tremble. In Romans 10:8-9, “if you believe in your heart and confess with your mouth…” comes with a change of mind and heart. They have no effect if the words are just spoken. As in John 3:16, the same is true. Believing comes by action of changing ones ways and going in God’s direction, not our own. You can always play games with God, but he knows your heart and you will NOT “get in at the end” unless you were sincere in your heart and your life made a drastic change.

          • DevilDog Ding

            You thought wrong, but that’s hardly surprising.

          • pinkrose

            That must be from your self-written book, sweet prince. Jesus never said anything like that. Speaking of which, you’d do well to read His Book.

          • angry

            Don’t know where you heard that ………..

          • DevilDog Ding

            Obeying isn’t good enough. Believing is necessary and sufficient. Only by grace through faith is man redeemed.

          • DevilDog Ding

            Being a believer and being pro-abortion are mutually exclusive.

          • Zendigger

            Neither one. He would reject the pro-life atheist for not accepting Christ, and the Pro-kill believer would be rejected for acting like a Sadducee or one caught up in ritual for the sake of ritual, Christian by name alone, not buy thought or action.

          • Valerie O’Doherty

            There is no such thing as a pro-kill believer.

            If you are a believer, you do not believe in abortion!

            If you are pro-kill, pro-abortion, you automatically exclude yourself from status of believer.

          • HalfMoments

            Pro-kill believers? You mean fakes.

            I would assume that God prefers neither since neither accept Him.

          • suqsid4

            You don’t need religion to know that slaughtering noobs ain’t right.

          • wvernon1981

            Agreed.

          • DevilDog Ding

            You don’t need religion to know a lot of things. But that’s not the point of Christianity.

          • Valerie O’Doherty

            You are correct, you do not need religion to know that abortion is a cruel, horrendous act against the unborn child, which we all were at one time! The very Natural Law inspires in right minded people the fact that abortion is a totally UNNATURAL act.

          • Jim

            Classic example of the naturalistic fallacy. Airplanes and cell phones are unnatural too.

          • Valerie O’Doherty

            There is decidedly something wrong with the brain of somebody who thinks cutting up babies in the womb is a good thing! Hardly on a par with airplanes and cell phones.

          • Jim

            There’s something wrong with someone who thinks that abortion is “cutting up babies in the womb”. That problem is called “ignorance”.

          • Valerie O’Doherty

            And what nice sanitized phrase would you use for cutting babies up in the womb? There are different types of abortion, but they all end up with murdering a BABY. You may wish to call it the medical term “fetus” – but it’s still a BABY. And how many women who get pregnant say joyfully, “I’m going to have a fetus”?

          • angry

            there are women that are out there that have gone threw abortion and have carried the guilt through out their lives and as in the Garden of Eden …when innocent there was no punishment but when you broke the laws and took the fruit of knowledge there were consequences ……….mark my words you will be punished in some way or another…If you don’t believe in the bible and Gods words ……believe in this………… what goes around comes around …………if you inflict pain you will receive pain(lol)……..It is karma

          • Jim

            …….I have a hard time taking people seriously who can’t use punctuation properly……..

          • Bhaleri

            You obviously have never seen a photo of an aborted baby!

          • HalfMoments

            If none of it matters, then a person can just splat their brains out and no biggy. Not saying you should, but if you did, doesn’t matter.

          • wvernon1981

            No. It really doesn’t.

          • HalfMoments

            Based on your posts, you’re not an atheist, your a Christian hater. Atheists wouldn’t care one way or the other, so wouldn’t post. You can continue to post all day. I won’t hate you. Instead, I will hope you find somewhere in your hate filled soul to find some peace.

          • Jim

            Ha ha ha, someone can’t stand their beliefs being questioned. I don’t think wvernon “hates Christians”. He simply wants them to think.

          • HalfMoments

            Clearly with his statements he hates Christians and dealing with people like that is pointless as is dealing with people like you could come in after the fact and say things like you have a problem with your beliefs being questioned. not an issue at all. Simply tired of the hate and assaults specifically on Christians.

          • Jim

            I don’t think you know what “hate” and “assault” mean.

          • HalfMoments

            I am sure you think your the only one that does

          • Jim

            Well, no, there are dictionaries out there that have definitions in them so I can be fairly certain that other people share the same meanings for words. Your usage of the words, however, indicates that you either don’t know or don’t care to use them correctly.

          • HalfMoments

            Maybe you need that dictionary yourself. Little narrow apparently.

          • Donald Crow

            can’t argue with a jackass who doesnt know his ass from a hole in the ground..lol

          • 1unit_31

            You don’t, however understanding the meaning of the gift of life requires a God. It takes very little intelligence to write God off.

          • JohnL1313

            Or, like a heart broken parent, sometimes its best if He steps aside and lets His children feel the pain and consequences of their actions.

            Don’t count on His providential hand guiding us as it has from our country’s beginning.

          • wvernon1981

            If Gods trying to reprogram us, then why not skip the crap and directly reprogram us.

          • DevilDog Ding

            Free will.

          • wvernon1981

            Yeah, but if God puts you through trials to mold you, He must know the outcome. God is therefore painfully reprogramming you rather than painlessly programming you. God must therefore be a sadist.

          • Josephine

            And God lets you share your stupid opinions too….who woulda thunk it? (That Free Will stuff sure is baffling…)

          • Pinky

            It is only baffling if you are a complete moron. I guess you fit the bill.

          • Josephine

            Sarcasm soars right over your head (and that was low-flung sarcasm too…)

          • jbauer

            You’re a moron if you don’t believe that abortion is the taking of a life. I guess you fit the bill. Whats the difference of someone killing your 2 year old and a doctor slicing the spinal cord of a baby being delivered?

          • rusty shackleford

            the 2 year old can survive on its own without the mother and is not dependent on the mothers flesh and blood to sustain life….A fetus (host) has yet to be detached and cannot survive outside the placenta (host)….anything else I can do for ya?

          • Zendigger

            Yes Rusty, explain the purpose of pulmonary surfactant and how it has saved the lives of countless premature 20 to 24 week old Fetuses by allowing them to breath independently outside of the womb with very little need for mechanical support usually no more than a couple of days. Ask any nurse that has worked in a neonatal intensive care unit about it. Your ignorance makes you think like a primitive savage, but I guess that just makes it easier to justify the commitment of murder, huh Rusty.

          • rusty shackleford

            you said it yourself….the parasite was kept alive with intervention and artificial influences…nice try but that has nothing to do with the differences between a 2 year old and a fetus, like the poster questioned…nice try,,,thanks for playing

          • Anonymous_1776

            rusty: what is substantially the difference between a full term infant just before delivery and just after? Does it need the mother to survive? No… we call that delivery. You would spare one child but condemn another to die based on a seconds in time and inches in space? Freaky.

          • rusty shackleford

            the answer to your question has been answered in my above post….pay attention and try to keep up

          • Zendigger

            Wow speaking of parasite, you still living with your parents Rusty? Did you know that a late term abortion is at 20 weeks. The abortionist intentionally crushes it’s chest just to stop it from taking that first breath. I guess you have a real reptile brain if you can’t tell the difference between temporary assistance, to let the body take over naturally, and what life support actually is. I am amazed at the authority in which you spew your ignorance. Someday Rusty you may need mechanical assistance for a day or two post surgery, or need it for a neck injury. By you own definition, you will be the epitome of a parasite especially if you require IVs and tube feedings for more than a couple of weeks. After that we get to trach you. Yes Rusty, I said we. Know why? I work as an ICU nurse and have actual knowledge about things you only pretend to know about. But please, by all means, keep spewing you ignorance. Let the world see how soulless and clueless, progressive idiots are.

          • rusty shackleford

            So Im living with my parents because you cant grasp the scientific difference between a parasitic fetus and a 2 year old baby?….typical lib response

          • EM

            So you are a parasite. Are you concerned your parents may kill you or is that okay too?

          • rusty shackleford

            No because Im not a womb infested parasite…..However if they had aborted me….I would not even know the difference

          • ipnet

            Very few abortions are done at or after 20 weeks. Usually, they are only performed then if the mother or child’s life is at stake. What Rusty means by “parasite” is that the zygote or fetus is living off of the mother’s body (or “host,” so to speak). By definition, it is true, but has a very negative connotation.

          • Zendigger

            Bull [email protected], look up the definition of parasite, A parasite is a creature of a different species of the host, that feeds off the host in a non beneficial non symbiotic relationship. Look at the statistics, most abortions are done out of convince. Late term abortions are legal, and when Obama was senator he voted in support of the law to not render aide to the survivor of a botched abortion. If late term abortion is not that common then why the law. Hermit Gosnell was killing them up to the time of delivery. Be careful who you back. Your buddy don’t know what the F he’s talking about.

          • bamared2222

            One question: When a woman gets pregnant, does she exclaim that she is having a parasitic fetus? A mass of protoplasm? I think not, she knows what she is having – A BABY. Even a two year old cannot survive on its own without help. Have you ever seen a 2 year old that could cook meals, take a bath, climb into a crib on its own?? Get real. Scientifically the term may be fetus at that point of development, but it is a baby my friend. With the aid of the electron microscope, scientists are learning more and more about a baby in its development, plus we already know that a baby experiences pain during an abortion, before it dies.

          • Mary DeLongchamp Mandigo

            You obviously have been taught by the Class of Mao. To call a fetus a parasite is EVIL. I’m not going to continue this evil repartee!

          • Let’s not start with the dead baby jokes in here…You’ll get all kinds of people upset

          • Mary DeLongchamp Mandigo

            She doesn’t think. She’s been told by the left wing socialists/nationalists/communists running the educational system, the media, Hollywood, leftist propaganda so therefore UH DUH. It MUST be true

          • ipnet

            That is not at all how abortion works. Do your research.

          • OBUMYA

            Ding Ding DING! By this guys logic, maybe Obama can stop blaming Bush and start blaming God for all of Obama’s Uck Fups?

          • wvernon1981

            I don’t blame God for anything. God doesn’t exist.

          • suqsid4

            Who’s God doesn’t exist?

          • virago

            I would say prove it! But you can’t prove a negative. Science has benefitted mankind enormously but it is not in their nature to prove God’s existence.. God gave us science and a will to learn. Science has given us hubris.

            I don’t discount some of evolution; God was in charge of that, too.

            I may sound simple but I have peace beyond understanding.

            Blessings.

          • The burden of proof is on the person making the hypothesis. If I told you there was a family of 6-headed purple dragons living at the core of the earth, it would be up to me to prove it, not for others to disprove it.

          • virago

            I believe he said God doesn’t exist. Of he state it as fact not as an hypothesis.

          • rusty shackleford

            where is your proof god exists?… thats right you have none….and you have a word for that lack of proof…faith….and the less proof you have the more you believe (in your mind) that god exists….talk about backwards logic and proving a negative

          • wvernon1981

            I have peace resulting from dealing with reality in realities terms. It’s quite satisfying really.

          • really?

            Yes and everything that happens is His will because He doesn’t intervene. Intervention isn’t in the program. We do what we choose and pay for it later.

          • wvernon1981

            If everything happens according to his will, he only doesn’t intervene because things are going as he planned anyway.

          • mondolibre

            You blame God.

            Who, according to you, doesn’t exist.

            Do you see the contradiction?

          • robrod09

            touché

          • wvernon1981

            I’m just playing in the Christian sandbox.

          • Mary DeLongchamp Mandigo

            He does intervene! He cares and loves all! There are probably untold stories of HIS intervention. Some care more about themselves than God or anyone let alone an unborn baby! Brainwashing the nation into believing it’s not a baby only after so many weeks instead of at conception is a way to again justify it to make it right! It will NEVER be right!

          • wvernon1981

            I didn’t realize a fertilized egg constituted a baby. If that’s the case, then God designed a system where billions and billions and billions of babies die in the womb. God really doesn’t care that much about babies. In fact, God has even commanded infants and children to be murdered in the Bible. And then there’s the global flood that killed all the babies, children, puppies, and kittens in the world while Noah floated merrily along in his floating zoo.

            Sent from Windows Mail

          • uncorrectedvision

            This is the essential problem with some people failing to fully comprehend human nature, as well as good and evil. If God strips us of free will then we are no longer human. It is the freedom to pursue good, fight for good, oppose evil and teach God’s will for us – to live a good life – that is our higher calling. How simplistic it is to expect God to just make evil stop and good prevail. It is so basically liberal.

          • billyboi57

            Uh, no. God didn’t want His people to be slaves, so he made us to be able to know the difference between right and wrong, to be able to make up our own minds based on the evidence before us. But it seems that escaped some of you.

          • wvernon1981

            So again, God therefore cares more about free will. We ought to imitate God’s perfection then and not intervene when someone tried to kill another. We should let the rapists run wild and the molesters freely diddle.

          • Zendigger

            God gave us free will and free choice. He will be holding us accountable on the other side. Even the Egyptians new that judgement would come only once we crossed over to the other side. But hey keep kidding yourself.

          • wvernon1981

            I don’t care what the Egyptians believed. It’s irrelevant to demonstrating we have free will. How do you propose you make choices outside of cause and effect. Your choices are fully determined ahead of time and you simply observe the deterministic workings of your brain.

          • JohnL1313

            He also gives instructions and laws to live by.

          • rusty shackleford

            didnt god lay out specific rules about how to treat slaves in leviticus?…who was that instruction for?

          • Zendigger

            I love the ignorant convolutions of logic that soulless liberals twist themselves into in order to deny a higher authority and try to justify the state sanctioned slaughter of innocence. Hey, ever heard of Satan he loves abortions and really wants you all to have them. Not God, duh.

          • wvernon1981

            Jesus told me he loves abortions.

          • Zendigger

            Wow so you are hearing voices in your head telling you to kill? Just as I thought. Liberalism is a mental disease, and you are a shining example. Kill small animals much too? Go get help your sickness is nothing to be proud of.

          • wvernon1981

            How do you know Jesus didn’t tell me that?

          • Zendigger

            I know what Jesus is all about in peoples lives. Jesus Christ has sustained many times of tribulations. He is the bringer of life and hope. Far greater people, than you or me, have been moved to do great acts for their fellow man, because of him. You on the other hand are lost, blasphemes and pathetic soul. By your writings, I and everyone else reading your post, know what a willfully dark and primitive mind you have. If your goal is to become sub-human then your well on your way.

          • wvernon1981

            People sustain themselves through tribulations. Christianity doesn’t have a monopoly on that so that doesn’t disprove that Jesus told me he loves abortions.

          • wvernon1981

            Abortions guarantee that Jesus gets heaven filled up with plenty of fresh, uncorrupted, in overt souls. He said you guys, in preventing abortions, are helping fill up hell with souls and that he’s very, very angry with you all.

          • Monroville

            Do you have Jesus’ email? I’d like to ask him about that.

            BTW, does that mean electing a politician who will start a nuclear war is a good thing?

          • wvernon1981

            My point is that everyone thinks they know what Jesus wants without actually having any objective means of determining what Jesus wants (though this is a moot point I suppose since, if Jesus ever existed, he’s been dead for 2000 years).

          • DevilDog Ding

            Oh, aside from studying the Bible, I suppose you’re right: there is no way to know what Jesus has to say. BTW, Jesus is not dead. That’s the whole point: Jesus conquered death.

          • rusty shackleford

            are you talking about the old testament that was written 1000 years before he was born?…or the new testament written 70 years after his death by people who never met him?…please be more clear

          • wvernon1981

            Considering we have no real evidence that anyone has ever risen 3 days after they really died, the only justified conclusion is that Jesus is dead.

          • Monroville

            I know, I’m just having a bit of fun. No name calling, but following through on the concept.

          • DevilDog Ding

            You’re telling the story. Finish it yourself. Imbecile.

          • Monroville

            Derp?*

            *translation: I know Wvernon is being sarcastic (maybe? This is the internet after all) and I am playing along, having some fun. Besides, if abortions are a good thing by sending fresh, innocent souls to Jesus, then a nuclear war should be even better as it will send up even more souls.. right?

            So I don’t think I’m telling the story so much as continuing it.

          • DevilDog Ding

            Fair enough. It’s sometimes not easy to read between the lines on the interwebs. However, WVernon is not being sarcastic. In his peculiar version of wisdom, he thinks he is being logical. Scary, isn’t it?

          • Divine Justice

            Yes to the first line. However, the ends do not justify the means to the law violator (sinner). If so, Judas should have been blessed for fulfilling prophecy in betraying Jesus. Then by the same logic, the KKK should be thanked for doing so much to plant the seeds of discontent leading to the civil rights movement.
            Jesus would have forgiven Judas, had Judas just asked.

          • DevilDog Ding

            Forest? Forest Gump? Is that you?

          • Divine Justice

            By this logic, Judas should be blessed for fulfilling the prophecy and betraying Jesus to his death. People are accountable for their own actions, not necessarily the butterfly-effects from their actions (good or bad).

          • wvernon1981

            I didn’t claim that those who had abortions would be blessed for it. Only that Jesus loves abortions.

          • rusty shackleford

            well Ill give you this much…he was better than his dikheaded dad that wiped out millions in the old testament because he was on his period

          • Considering people lived to be 1000+ years old back then, he probably just got tired of the same old prayers from the same old people

          • rusty shackleford

            yeah thats what I was thinking too…rolls eyes

          • I heard God is terrible at Jenga, also. Last time someone tried to set up the Jenga tower, he threw a tantrum and knocked it over, somehow changing peoples’ skin color and language in the meantime.

          • rusty shackleford

            no thats 2 different tales you are intertwining….Mormans believe some angels were punished for their inaction when satan rebelled and got thrown out of heaven…the angels who didnt get involved were punished by being forced to become the black race…..sounds reasonable right?

          • I was referring to the Jenga Tower of Babel

          • rusty shackleford

            oh ya ya…thats the one where he confuses all the languages…ok ok gotcha

          • Seems logical…One time I kicked an ant bed and the ants that landed down the sidewalk changed colors and started making noises

          • rusty shackleford

            was the queen ant shouting out instructions in a strange new language that the other ants couldnt seem to understand?

          • She wouldn’t shut her mouth so I ran the water hose on the whole colony for weeks. A bunch of insects climbed on a leaf and rode it out, though.

          • rusty shackleford

            lol…dude stop

          • DevilDog Ding

            He killed only those who desperately needed killing.

          • So we can ignore commandments for people that really need some killing/raping/stealing?

          • DevilDog Ding

            What commandments would those be? GSP, you better up your game or get out. I’m not in a good mood tonight and you’re going to end up crying before this over.

          • I’m the one asking you which ones we can ignore. There are over 600 of them, so it’s difficult to keep up sometimes. It would be better if the Bible just specified when we get to disregard them, because then I wouldn’t have to go to experts like yourself to figure out which ones are jokes

          • When were you supposed to be making me cry? Can we get that started sooner rather than later?

          • rusty shackleford

            including the babies and children in such places as soddom and gohmorrah?…lol…very interesting

          • Zendigger

            LOL, well you know you can choose your friends but you can’t choose family!

          • Darrell King

            so you are angry because your daughter got molested and somehow it was God’s fault she got molested. You do understand that God gave freewill to everyone right not only the just but the unjust as well.

          • rusty shackleford

            I dont have a daughter, is that what you took from my post?…just because you got stuck raising that half breed in your avatar, doesnt give you the right to project “fantasies” about my life

          • Darrell King

            That’s a mighty liberal answer of you. I would take a few minutes to explain to you how my son is better than you will ever be as a person and he is only six, but in the end we both know that you really aren’t much of a comparison to anything well I mean aside from the excrement that you love to roll in.

          • DevilDog Ding

            You can’t hear Jesus.

          • DevilDog Ding

            That was your father saying he wished your mother had loved abortions in 1981

          • wvernon1981

            It doesn’t bother me to think that I could have been aborted for if I were, I wouldn’t be here to know the difference.

          • anonymous

            He actually did that once….it was called the Flood…been there done that…

          • wvernon1981

            Seriously?? You actually believe a global flood happened? There is absolutely no evidence found that would point to a global flood occurring ever in the billions of years this planet has existed.

          • Pali

            There’s horizontal erosion on the Great Sphinx of Giza.

          • wvernon1981

            The sphinx would have been constructed after the flood.

          • Tootrue4you

            No, the head was altered after the flood.

          • Pinky

            So…where did all the water on earth come from? You DO realize that 71% of the earth is covered in water. Where do you think it all came from…a little black rain cloud? Your ignorance is almost laughable….almost.

          • wvernon1981

            Most likely comets that bombarded the earth early on. It didn’t appear here magically.

          • Aurora

            Well you see according to basic earth science water is bonded hydrogen and oxygen atoms and because matter can not be destroyed or created all the water on the planet is all the water that can ever be on the planet is was ever on the planet which unless all the ice caps in the Arctic simultaneously melted during this flood there would couldn’t possibly be enough water to cover the entire land mass of the earth

          • Davis

            No,He is waiting for the Day of Judgement.Up until then we do have freewill to choose bad things. On that day, we will answer for those choices.

          • SamIamtwo

            You assume to know what God would do? Well for one thing since the child is not of the age of carnal awareness, that child is with God…as for the evil person, he or she will be held accountable for their actions when they meet their maker.

          • Aurora

            Maybe it’s Gods plan to let the woman and child to have that experience to allow them to grow which would make the reason for why God would allow children to suffer from horrible diseases

          • SamIamtwo

            My brother died at the age of 12. We grew. So yes, maybe.

          • OBUMYA

            I see. So by your logic if your parents allowed you to screw up things in the name of growing, they must be evil, sick and perverted people?

          • wvernon1981

            If they allowed me to knowingly murder people, drawing this much closer to my original point, then yes, they would be sick people.

          • TAK1

            By your logic He would also have to stop all evil, which goes against free will. You can be as good or as evil as you want to be up until the day you die. Unfortunately the world is a cruel place. I agree with Samlamtwo.

          • Jim Moriarty

            We all have free will to run head first into hell. God sends NO ONE to Hell. We freely choose it if we land there. God wants us to be His hands here on Earth and do what’s right and carry out His Commandments. Going to hell is MUCH easier than doing good. It’s called SIN! We all tend toward it. It’s tough to oppose it. Recall that in the Bible all Angels were given a test as to their allegiance to God. One third of them failed and were thrown down to Earth. We live here with them as they try to drag us into Hell through sin. Welcome to the continuous human struggle until death. Your choice is to fight or give in. Make your choice.

          • wvernon1981

            I don’t want to go to hell. Done. I didn’t choose it. Therefore, God sends me there against my will.

          • Jim Moriarty

            St. Paul says that life for us is like a race to win a prize. Secular people raced for a crown of laurel leaves on their head. Christians race for a crown of gold to present to Christ for doing his will.

          • DevilDog Ding

            The day is coming when you will be called to account.

          • wvernon1981

            Called to account for making logical inferences? Is this like Westboro “GOD HATES LOGIC!”

          • DevilDog Ding

            That’s exactly what Satan offered man in paradise and exactly what cause our fall. “For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. He catches the wise in their craftiness. “(I Cor)

          • Jim

            “That’s exactly what Satan offered man in paradise and exactly what cause our fall.”

            You actually believe that the Genesis story about Eden literally happened? Have you stopped to think how ridiculous it is? God creates Adam and Eve. He puts them in a garden with two trees, one that gave the knowledge of good and evil and another that gave eternal life. He lies and tells them that if they eats the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that they’ll die. A serpent comes along and points out that God is lying, and they eat the fruit. They don’t die, and they gain the knowledge of good and evil.

            Now let’s stop and think for a moment. Aside from the fact that this story has magic fruits and talking snakes, there are a few problems: First of all, it’s stupid that God even put the tree in the garden in the first place. Second, it’s stupid that he let the serpent (supposedly Satan) into the garden. Third, it’s stupid that Gof lied, or if you buy into the excuse that Christians give for this, that he left off the bit about them dying a “spiritual death” rather than an actual death. Fourth, how did God expect Adam and Eve to do what was right if they didn’t have the knowledge of what was good and what was evil (that’s what the tree was for!)?

            Back to the story. God gets mad and makes the serpent crawl on it’s belly (no idea what serpents were doing before that…flying or something?), child bearing would be painful for Eve (though until then, there weren’t any children so I don’t know why that would mean anything to Adam and Eve), and then God appears to get scared that Adam and Eve might eat from the tree of
            life and become immortal, and thus banishes them from the garden (a rather odd thing for an omnipotent god to be scared of, especially when Adam and Eve already had immortal souls).

            Have you thought about any of this? Does this story not seem absolutely preposterous when you take it literally?

          • DevilDog Ding

            “You actually believe that the Genesis story about Eden literally happened? ”

            Yes. Next question.

          • Jim

            I don’t know much, eh? Tell me where I’m wrong then. I suspect that my knowledge of the Bible is greater than yours and most other people on this comment thread, but I’m willing to be shown where I’m wrong.

          • DevilDog Ding

            I wasn’t clear. What I meant when I said you don’t know much about the Bible was that you read it as though it’s a history book or a science book. It is neither of those things. It’s a book through which God reveals Himself to people who want to understand (to the extent that they can) God’s purpose.

            I know why you are the way you are; I’ve been on your side of the argument. I also know why I am the way I am now; I’ve been working it out for 40 of my 60 years.

            I like the way I am now better than the way I used to be, and I’m sorry that you are the way you are.

          • Zoop

            Even if he does, is that so bad? Most people do care more about free will than preventing harm to children/society.

            For example, we allow adults to own potentially lethal/deadly things even when they have children in their home. Let’s take dogs for example. Dog behaviorists tell us there is no such thing as a trustworthy dog around children. There is always the potential for a dog to lash out and maul or kill – yet we still allow people to own dogs. We just accept that some children are going to die when their dumb parents leave them alone with the dog.

          • Mary DeLongchamp Mandigo

            Don’t speak so foolishly! You know it’s murder to snuff out the lives of unborn babies! Stop trying to salve your own conscience by blaming God!

          • wvernon1981

            I’m not blaming God for anything. I don’t blame things that don’t exist. I’m simply stating that God must care more about free will than baby murder if God allows people to kill babies. You can’t get around that reasoning.

            Sent from Windows Mail

          • Darlene Johnson

            Where is self-responsibility? It is so much easier to blame God than take responsibility for personal actions.

          • wvernon1981

            You’re making the assumption that abortion is an irresponsible act.

          • billyboi57

            It is.

          • wvernon1981

            How is it irresponsible?

          • rusty shackleford

            cutting off black crime and welfare recipients is a very responsible act….did you just land here?

          • uncorrectedvision

            Exactly right. God gave us the power for right action, to do good, to mitigate and combat evil, isn’t that intervention?

          • Without free will we’re all just organic robots. Taking the life of an innocent child is on the murderer’s head… not Gods. We create the society we live in, one that respects everyone’s unalienable right to life or one in which we pay lip service to it.

          • wvernon1981

            We are just organic machines.

          • Claiming to be a soulless machine is an interesting proposition. Can one have anything but an empty, purposeless existence? Absent willful denial that is… a machine, organic or inorganic is rudderless without programming by an outside agency. Who programmed you?

          • wvernon1981

            Organic machines evolve. They don’t need to be programmed.

          • Zendigger

            LOL, I thought so. Fine then organic machine then die. Your life is pointless. Just because you think does not mean you are, you’re just a programmed automation with defective hardware. You’re doomed to oblivion so why wait any longer? Because you’re a coward and full of BS that’s why.

          • wvernon1981

            My life isn’t pointless to me. I quite enjoy being alive most of the time. I see many Christians repeating that God is necessary for life to have meaning as if it were some kind of mantra but if you’re right, you’re simply acting according to the programming that God programmed you with and are really no different that an evolved organic machine.

          • Zendigger

            Nope, if God programmed me I would be superior, but I am not. You, what a joke. Like a typical self centered materialistic child you don’t understand, whats important. When all you do is serve yourself, your life is pointless. Your worth is measured by others. If you had actually done anything significant in your life you would know this and not make such ignorant statements. What a dull little pointless dolt you are.

          • rusty shackleford

            you repeat catch phrases like “god gives us free will” to excuse his inaction when people ask why would god let my 4 year old daughter be raped?…screw you and your god (that you have no shred of proof of)…and youre proud of that lack of proof…you take that lack of proof and package it up and call it “faith”…and then somehow you think
            that makes you better than people who dont believe in fairy tales

          • Pinky

            It is not God who chooses to kill an innocent baby. It is the woman carrying the baby that makes that decision. Don’t blame God for what evil man does.

          • wvernon1981

            I didn’t. I simply claimed, based on prior claims, that God must care more about free will than child murder.

          • rusty shackleford

            No you are right…God is the most powerful being in the universe that just stands there and lets it happen….maybe he isnt powerful enough to stop it

          • OBUMYA

            The aborted child is cradled for eternity on the bosom of angels. The guy who performs abortion? Id pray for him and her. The woman who has an abortion? Never seen a woman who had one who is happy about it and often very depressed…kinda like a living hell on Earth for most of them so I am sure God will forgive them as they have had their punishment on Earth Id leave it at that…

          • Eugene Pariah

            OK, it seems that the question as to who the secular-progressive trolls are for today at this forum has been settled:

            mikemazzla

            wvernon1981

          • wvernon1981

            I might be trolling but I’d like to think I’m posing useful questions.

          • mikemazzla

            LOl free will is a religious persons answer to why bad things happen and god does nothing to prevent it…instead of knowing that there is no god and he doesnt affect anything..and whe crazy people try to understand why good people sometimes dies in horrible ways. Hmm that is some god.. he puts you out here..you are on your own…and then he will pick you up when you die. What a sweet story

          • Dano50

            Here’s something I could never understand.

            Atheists should be rabid Pro-Lifers because, if there is no God and the 70 or so years each of us gets is our only kick at the can in a universe billions of years old, then we have absolutely no right to deny ANY “potential” sentient their chance at life.

          • anonymous

            right on!

          • hamous

            It’s an exercise in futility to try and apply morality to the motives of militant atheists. They’re really just narcissists who’ve realized their pusillanimous existence has no meaning. Or maybe their spoiled little trust fund babies mad at the world because daddy wouldn’t buy them that bitchin’ Camaro.

          • TJtruthandjustice

            But what happens to the “babies” when they are “murdered”? Since they are completely innocent human beings, they will go directly to paradise in the hereafter. Why are you folks so eager to deny the “babies” immediate entrance to the heavenly kingdom?

          • Dano50

            Maybe your response is to someone else, but I never said anything like that.

          • rusty shackleford

            unless statistics show that potential sentient is of a certain race and will more than likely grow up to be a drain on my wallet due to eventual incarceration or eventual welfare use

          • Dano50

            I could be misunderstanding here but…

            “Of a certain race” smacks of Nazism.

            I’ve been all over the world, and found great people, and jerks everywhere.

            The only thing each and every single jerk in this world has in common, is that they are all human beings.

            As for being able to predict who’s going to be a drain on society, the eugenics p.o.s. George Bernard Shaw said, “At some point you should have to justify your existence. Prove you give to society more than you take, or at least equal to what you take.”

            We have no way to prove who’s going to be a burden and who won’t be.

            Stephen Hawking would have something to say about that.

            Winston Churchill was a drunk.

            Audie Murphy was rejected by all the services for being too scrawny and yet he became America’s greatest war hero.

            There is no way to judge a book by it’s cover, and even if we could predict the future, the movies Minority Report and Paycheck are examples of how that those in charge of such power can abuse it.

          • rusty shackleford

            never can I recall witnessing anything that comes close to the absolute animalistic, uncouth, dangerous and violent behavior that is displayed by todays upstanding black folks…when is the last time you saw a group of whites riot and flip tables at a dennys for a percieved slight? (real or imagined)…when is the last time you saw whites burn down and loot their own neighborhood because of a disappointing court verdict?….when was the last time you saw a group of whites attack a innocent 80 year old playing the knockout game?,,,when was the last time you saw 300 whites storm a walmart and loot and destroy everything in their path in what they refer to as a flash mob? when was the last time you saw whites off each other (daily) in record numbers.?…Do you know how many blacks were killed by other blacks so far this year in chicago alone?…..nope sorry, its not a poor or oppressed thing…its not a public policy thing….it IS a race thing…..but not a white, yellow, brown or red thing……its a black thing……thanks for playing

          • Dano50

            Occupy Wall Street seemed to be mostly white. As is every greenie environmental protest. Almost every G8 protest is largely white. Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground. Adam Lanza. The Oklahoma City Bomber.
            The Montreal University Massacre.

            Then there’s the Italian Mafia, the Jewish Mafia, the Russian Mafia.

            There was Charles Ng, the Virginia Tech Massacre, the Asian Triads, the Japanese Yakuza.

            We have the KKK, White Supremacists, and the Black Panthers.

            The world has the Taliban, Hamas, the P.L.O., the Muslim Brotherhood.

            And I don’t know why but, pretty much any country colonized by the Spanish is now at the very least a dictatorship. It goes down from there.

            And don’t forget every single solitary communist country, Spanish, Asian, or White, so there’s Castro, Chavez, Che; Mao and Pol Pot; and Stalin, Brezhnev, Nikita Khrushchev, Lenin, and Romania’s Nicolae Ceaușescu.

            Can’t forget HItler and Mussolini.

            I’ve been to India. Corrupt big time. Whole government and economy’s built on it.

            I’d have to say the drug trade is one of the 100% equal opportunist employers I know of.

            Most of the African continent seems to be run by dictators, and while the white man was participant, we were by no means the only race to run that race. EVERYBODY, Africans included made that place the Lost Continent.

            Some public disruptors I know of right now are the dishonorable reverends Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, and Jeremiah Write, and Al Sharpton, Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews, and Ed Shutlz.

            I think I’ve got a big enough list proving EVERY race, creed, color, and religion has their special little interest group of jerks.

          • Dano50

            Oh and I’ve seen little white pinheads shooting paint-balls at white customers going in to a local shopping center. Little pukes ran before I could give them a taste of their own medicine

          • uncorrectedvision

            This is the interesting thing, when a child falls down and scrapes his knee does he blame his father for letting him fall down because his father was watching as he freely road down the street? The idea that God doesn’t stop the natural suffering in the world is a source of anger and confusion to atheists, because they cannot accept that suffering, evil and death are natural. No wonder they are so bitter, they are stuck in childhood blaming daddy for the natural consequences when gravity overcomes inertia and sidewalk scrapes knee.

          • rusty shackleford

            [email protected] you a55hole…you repeat catch phrases like “god gives us free will” to excuse his inaction when people ask why would god let my 4 year old daughter be raped?…screw you and your god (that you have no shred of proof of)…and youre proud of that lack of proof…you take that lack of proof and package it up and call it “faith”…and then somehow you think that makes you better than people who dont believe in fairy tales

          • uncorrectedvision

            Thank you for proving one basic thing, atheism is driven by anger over the inability to understand free human action. Perhaps someday you will recover your adulthood rather than spew hate and anger.

          • rusty shackleford

            Thank you for the free evaluation…now could you address why your powerful “god” would allow a 4 year old to be raped?….free will ?..pffffttt. perhaps he doesnt exist….or perhaps he does…….and he is just impotent

          • uncorrectedvision

            You do not want to ask me to comment on why someone empowered to prevent a child’s suffering doesn’t.

          • rusty shackleford

            sure I do…go for it

          • disillusioned

            And yet your messiah continues to be a thorn in your side, twisting the laws of the US to give themselves power. Hail be to global warming, the new religion. We know where those tithes will be going.

          • OBUMYA

            To Mike and his moronic ilk, free will is what THEY impose upon others….

          • Conspiracy_Fax

            What about the child’s will to live?

            Your not allowed to use your free will to yell fire in a movie theater and your not allowed to use it to murder, or prevent the birth of a child.

          • Heartland Patriot

            You can re-read “Das Kapital” and “The Communist Manifesto” as much as you want to, and blather on about your militant atheist views, but you’re accomplishing nothing, other than being annoying.

          • Joseph McLinden

            He doesn’t stop murder or rape either. Men are allowed to make their own salvation. Take our chances.

          • AbortionIsMurder

            Because God gave us free will. If we choose to kill human life at its most vulnerable stage, then that is an indictment of us, not of God.

          • ManassasGrandma

            God gave us all free will because He wants us to FREELY CHOOSE THE GOOD. But even if their were no God to emulate in freely choosing to do good, abortion would still be the ending of a unique, unrepeatable life. The taking innocent life diminishes all of us.

          • TJCrane_NCC1701

            Yes, it diminishes all of us Americans (we, us, the people who are supposed to stand for LIFE, Liberty, Equality, Human Rights, etc.) for letting this murderous practice to continue.

            What mikemazzia fails to recognize is that God is DOING SOMETHING through the Holy Spirit, through people like you and I who are disgusted that women kill their unborn and speak out against it. This person has simplistic views of religion and the Bible. They think that the only way for God to let His will be known is through lightning bolts, floods, and God writing it in stone for Charlton Heston.

            I commend and applaud you for trying to make the troll “see the light” but the stupid is strong in this one.

            Keep trying though, every now and then one of them seems to “dummy up”.

          • rusty shackleford

            you repeat catch phrases like “god gives us free will” to excuse his inaction when people ask why would god let my 4 year old daughter be raped?…screw you and your god (that you have no shred of proof of)…and youre proud of that lack of proof…you take that lack of proof and package it up and call it “faith”…and then somehow you think that makes you better than people who dont believe in fairy tales

          • SamIamtwo

            You are allowed to make a choice and that choice is called free will. What you think God would want us to be robots?

          • Maybe, just maybe because of free will? You get to choose to go to hell pal, he doesn’t condemn you, your actions do that.

          • Ward Cleaver

            Same reason He loves you and allows you to walk around.

          • Bob G

            Evil exists where God is not welcome. Abortion clinics are Satan’s house. What you don’t understand you believe doesn’t exist. That’s too bad.

          • michael1302

            SOW IN THE WIND-REAP THE WHIRLWIND. God will take care of business in His own way. 1 in 3 women have had an abortion, that means 1 in 3 men have been equally responsible. I bet every time they hear a Baby cry, they remember what it was like as they relive that horrific moment

          • lottasplainin

            Question authority. Who says “exists” has to mean “present in the time/space continuum?” After all, both time and space are fundamentally non-material anyway – science has never proven either one “exists,” only inferred their “existence” very indirectly.

          • mike4obama

            Mike, you’re an idiot.

          • billyboi57

            Maybe because you have such pathetic little understanding, mikemazzla. There are many reasons why God does what he does, far more than your tiny little mind can comprehend.

          • anonymous

            ya maybe he was aborted?

          • Patrick Henry

            If He blocked you from committing sins, then you would just complain that He was being tyrannical. In other words, you’re a whiner.

          • You’re not disproving the existence of God. You are unknowingly embracing the existence of Satan.

          • ANON200

            Perhaps that justice is dealt out in the afterlife?

            Sorry atheist—

            That’s not the way it works.

            In your world of moral relativism, the value of behavior is dictated by popular consent (i.e. it is constantly changing). As such, all you have to do is wait for the proper consensus in order to carry out your desired behavior without immediate consequences.

            However, if there is no moral authority, no standard against which behavior is judged, then good and bad and right and wrong have no meaning, and existence devolves into survival of the fittest without regard to ethics.

            Since survival of the fittest only selects according to the ability to survive long enough to reproduce, and altruism has a negative impact on your ability to survive, it must be abrogated.

            So the concept of “doing something evil” or “doing something good” doesn’t exist in the amoral world –there’s only “what can I get away with today that will allow me to survive”. It’s called the law of the jungle.

            So, you have a conundrum–if there is no selective advantage to having a conscience, why does mankind have one?

            I’d argue that it’s prima facie evidence of a soul.
            Incidentally, if you are so certain that there is NOTHING beyond the 5 senses, why don’t you act accordingly?—live for today, for tomorrow you may die.

            You should start stealing, killing abusing others, and hoarding as much as possible! Incidentally, love has no meaning in this existence—only lust. Start sleeping around too! Just gratify your every immediate urge.
            As long as you don’t get caught…

            Answer: You don’t REALLY believe what you are saying, or you would act out in just such a fashion!

            Nuff said!

          • 1unit_31

            He pays us back by giving us people like you!

          • Diocisalvi

            Hum…G-D gave man free will…what Man kills it’s seed? What women murders her baby? Only selfish whores…

          • Gracie66

            Won’t you be surprised!

          • OBUMYA

            Gosh Mike did your parents stop you from doing everything wrong, stupid and dangerous in your life? Gee I guess they dont exist. Sophomoric arguments from a freshman mind…let me guess, pseudo philosophy major at a California Junior College?

          • HalfMoments

            When man forgets or denies God, he substitutes for the emptiness space he has left in his soul. Usually that empties is a belief in either other men, which is an ever downward spiral.

            Like the fool that Mike here has shown himself to be, history is filled with those societies that have pushed God from their midst. In each and ever case, it took God fearing me to stop the evil they had then wrought.

            Hitler is but one example Mike, but I am sure you knew that as you are probably a leftist plant.

          • mikemazzla

            LOL you sound like a nutcase you realize that right?…and here I thought Fred Phelps was dead. You are like the crazy people we see on the side of the road with the end is near sign haha too funny

            I am left but I am not a plant…

          • Jim Moriarty

            Only the fool in his heart says “There is no God”. Psalm 14:1 and Psalm 53:1 says it. Check it out.

          • mikemazzla

            WTF do I care what it says in some story book.

            “And Santa came down the chimney to drop presents off for the little kids”. Santa Claus is Coming to Town.. Page 6 Paragraph 1

          • Eugene Pariah

            OK, the question as to who the secular-progressive trolls are for today at this forum has now been settled:

            mikemazzla

            wvernon1981

          • mikemazzla

            I wear that badge with honor gomer

          • Eugene Pariah

            I’ll “see” your “gomer,” and “raise” you my “goner.”

            The trouble with secular-progressives, liberals and God-deniers and mockers is NOT

          • mikemazzla

            We don’t know anything? LOL and you do? Based on what?

            That is like saying I am a Easter bunny denier.. he doesnt exist either.. although there are a few books about him

          • Doolittle Daily

            Mike, if you can read above a third grade level (highly unlikely), take a basic philosophy course.

          • bamared2222

            You are the one who doesn’t know what he is talking about. You know nothing about God. It is man/woman who commit these egregious sins, not GOD. Don’t you dare hold God responsible for man’s irresponsible behavior. It is desire that we turn to him to change our lives and thus our behavior. We are the ones in the wrong, not God. You may not believe in God, but the Bible speaks very clearly about people that believe what you purport to believe: “The fool has said in his heart, there is no god.” You can deny God all you want now, but one day, you and all the other people who deny his existence will stand before him and then bow your knee and acknowledge who he is.

          • cool story, bro

          • mikemazzla

            sure we will

          • bamared2222

            Like I said, you can deny God, but that will not change his reality, nor your destiny if you choose to follow that course. He gave you free will, so the ball is in your court. But you know what, this life is the best you will ever have and this life is the worst I will ever have.
            Subject: Re: New comment posted on University of Michigan Exhibit Celebrates Abortion as ‘Life-Sustaining Act’

          • mikemazzla

            LOl that is pretty awesome.

            So what your saying is that God gave me free will,, and with that free will I have determined that he doesn’t exist..but otherwise I have led a good life, raised my kids, paid my taxes..treated my wife and others around me well…but when the time comes he will penalize me for using the free will he gave me? haha ok well that makes a lot of sense

          • bamared2222

            No, sorry, poor logic. He allowed you have the freedom to choose your way or the best way to live. If you dont know God then you dont know “the other side of life.” YOu only know life from your perspective, which is very limited. Just “being good” will not save you or ultimately change you. Men always want to be accepted based upon their own ideas of goodness, but there is inherently no goodness in us because we are not perfect and without sin. Man originally rebelled against God and free will allows us to come back to him or continue going our own way. The only penalty is the one you exact on yourself by rejecting a loving God who is willing to forgive you. That choice is yours alone and you wont be able to blame God for that choice.
            Subject: Re: New comment posted on University of Michigan Exhibit Celebrates Abortion as ‘Life-Sustaining Act’

          • mikemazzla

            So basically all other things being equal…it is just my no belief in god that is screwing with me… because otherwise I lead a life similar to the average guy… and because of my my belief in god is the only way I will get absolved of my sins…otherwise if I dont believe, I am not absolved..and thus not accepted.

            Just trying to understand how all this works.

          • bamared2222

            Are you willing to admit you have done things that were wrong? Do you believe that there are standards for right and wrong? How do you think sins are absolved? Can you do that yourself? God is perfect so where do you think that puts you and me? You can’t do anything for yourself, only God can. It’s up to you.

          • mikemazzla

            Sure I have done things wrong. I don’t need anyone to absolve me of that. Why do they have to be absolved? You act as though that is a requirement. lol

          • bamared2222

            All you have is mocking things to say. This discussion is a waste of time. Have a nice life, sorry about your afterlife to come.
            Subject: Re: New comment posted on University of Michigan Exhibit Celebrates Abortion as ‘Life-Sustaining Act’

          • republican122

            God gives humans free choice to do evil or chose good deeds therefore we are not made as zombies and do such things as some cults advise to drink poison kool aid for one instance. God want companionship not robots. So if you would like to know what it means ask God to forgive you and accept Jesus as your Savior and then you will know what it means to have a relationship not just be religious about something. Heck I can be religious about picking up a soda bottle one hundred times a time.

          • mikemazzla

            I love reading these hilarious religious comments. Seriously they are priceless.

          • ohspareme

            Because we are given FREE WILL! Duh.

          • Mary DeLongchamp Mandigo

            You know that’s the most lame excuse! Why does God allow it? We are given a free choice! We are born to follow Him. He set down the laws and gave us the 10 commandments. It is we that choose to go against those commandments! There will and is coming to our nation the Final Wrath of God! He will be on time! He gives us time to repent of our sin! He wishes for no one to perish! But there WILL be a DAY of Reckoning

          • mikemazzla

            LOl sure there will be.. when is that date again? You guys have been talking about that for a while now.. the final wrath..LOL this isnt the Omen movie you know

            But let m get this straight Mary..so god gives is free will to make our own decisions..and he throws out a few commandments to follow. So I otherwise lead a good life, raise my kids, stay with my wife, pay may taxes lol help others etc etc. My only issue is that I don’t believe in god because of the free will he gave me. Are you saying that I will feel his wrath just because of that… wow that pretty much sucks lol

            But you know why people like you keep saying things like ” you will see” It will happen…the wrath is coming. because you have nothing tangible or legitimate to say..so you throw out these nonsense lines that mean nothing.

            It is just like as we move a long ad each and every part of the bible is disproved…you adjust the explanation…well we know for a fact that man wasn’t on earth first..that was just a figure of speech. Well we know the earth wasnt created in 7 days…but in bible terms 7 days doesnt actually mean 7 days.

            So silly…comon Mary..you arent that old that you cant grow up a little and admit what you know is true…life wiull go on.

          • pinkrose

            That was quite the weak effort there, mike. It didn’t even make sense. Does someone not exist because others make wrong choices? Like parents that don’t exist, right? because their adult children make wrong choices. Like I said, it makes zero sense. No logic there whatsoever.

        • wvernon1981

          It can’t be a gift if they didn’t exist to enjoy it.

          • Gary Lee

            try to get some rest. Staying up all night watching reruns of Obama speeches is not good. An eréction lasting longer than four hours is not healthy.

          • David Vazquez

            Let me guess, you’re going to argue that “God” DOES support abortion, but does NOT support NOT getting an abortion…?

          • wvernon1981

            No. God can’t support anything because he doesn’t exist.

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          • David Vazquez

            So you’re on board with ridiculing the idea that abortion is a blessing from god?

          • wvernon1981

            Yeah

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          • Peter

            Clearly at least one god of abortion-blessing exists in your mind. But be sure the only true and living God who made heaven and earth, who entered human history in the person of Jesus Christ–He will make all things right, in His good time. Each abortion will face justice–and each rape, each murder, each artist-fool, and each denier of His existence in the comment section. Repent and believe.

          • wvernon1981

            Jesus told me he loves abortion in prayer the other day.

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          • ANON200

            Sorry atheist—

            That’s not the way it works.

            In your world of moral relativism, the value of behavior is dictated by popular consent (i.e. it is constantly changing). As such, all you have to do is wait for the proper consensus in order to carry out your desired behavior without immediate consequences.

            However, if there is no moral authority, no standard against which behavior is judged, then good and bad and right and wrong have no meaning, and existence devolves into survival of the fittest without regard to ethics.

            Since survival of the fittest only selects according to the ability to survive long enough to reproduce, and altruism has a negative impact on your ability to survive, it must be abrogated.

            So the concept of “doing something evil” or “doing something good” doesn’t exist in the amoral world –there’s only “what can I get away with today that will allow me to survive”. It’s called the law of the jungle.

            So, you have a conundrum–if there is no selective advantage to having a conscience, why does mankind have one?

            I’d argue that it’s prima facie evidence of a soul.

            Incidentally, if you are so certain that there is NOTHING beyond the 5 senses, why don’t you act accordingly?—live for today, for tomorrow you may die.

            You should start stealing, killing abusing others, and hoarding as much as possible! Incidentally, love has no meaning in this existence—only lust. Start sleeping around too! Just gratify your every immediate urge.
            As long as you don’t get caught…

            Answer: You don’t REALLY believe what you are saying, or you would act out in just such a fashion!

            Nuff said!

          • wvernon1981

            I don’t even know were to start because your post provokes so many responses. Immediate survival isn’t always advantageous. Our basic sense of morality like an deep aversion to killing members of our group promotes the fitness of the group which protects your genes’ survival for generations down the road.
            A sense of morality is not evidence of a soul any more than its evidence of myself having a leprechaun pulling morality levers in my brain. How does your model of morality via a soul explain how brain damage can cause changes in moral decision making.
            I don’t do many of the things you say because either I have been biologically programmed to have an aversion to them or I can see potential negative consequences to those actions.

          • ANON200

            Why do you have an aversion to those actions if right and wrong have no meaning for you?

            Or do they?

          • wvernon1981

            Because I am biologically programmed to. Is it wrong for a lion to kill the young of another?

          • rusty shackleford

            Sorry absolutoinist….they were perhaps agnostic….maybe even “scared and unsure” needing consoling …(good job “christian”)
            “However, if there is no moral authority, no standard against which behavior is judged”…nice try, but there is…its called the law….did you just get here?
            “I’d argue that it’s prima facie evidence of a soul.”….Id argue that the laws (as appropriated by us) are a good learner for what is acceptable behavior as deemed by us as a society…ie…monkey burn finger on fire…monkey dont touch fire….(and as you can see….behavior can be legislated “by us” for the betterment of the tribe
            “live for today, for tomorrow you may die”…..because humans are born with the will to survive another day and to do what you suggest would be going against what we are born and ingrained to do.
            “You don’t REALLY believe what you are saying, or you would act out in just such a fashion!”…..translate….Im so scared because I screwed up the one opportunity (this life) that I have been givin…I must pretend that there is an afterlife where all will be set right and in that way, I am no longer held accountable for the mistakes I have made here on earth

          • YouAren’tVeryBright

            At one time, your life was only a few seconds old, yet here you are many seconds later claiming that life isn’t enjoyed, even in its earliest moments. What if your mother had believed then as you do now? By your reasoning, why should any pregnant woman attempt to eat and live as carefully as she can to ensure her child is healthy in her womb?

          • wvernon1981

            If my mother had aborted me, I wouldn’t be here now to know the difference so I really don’t care if I had been aborted or not. Other pregnant women want a child so they take care of it the best they can

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          • Mike

            It’s not about what a women wants. A human is not a play toy. Are you someone’s play toy?

          • wvernon1981

            It seems to me that it is about wants. If a woman wants a child, she has one. If not, she uses birth control or has an abortion

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          • Paul Mccord

            Or maybe if a woman doesn’t want a child she can be responsible and not put herself in a position to have an unwanted child. And there is no difference between a fetus and you other than you are both in different stages of human growth just as there is a difference between you and a baby, you and a child, you and a teenager, you and an elderly person. Each stage of life has its changes but doesn’t change the basic fact of being human.

          • TJtruthandjustice

            Couples who have sex should use birth control, but even the most reliable birth control is not 100 percent effective. There is a monumental difference between a fetus – which cannot live even for a few minutes outside its mother’s own body – and children, teenagers, and elderly people, who can live and breath on their own. And if one’s own body is not defined as one’s own personal property, I don’t know what the hell is.

          • Paul Mccord

            The problem when pregnant one’s body isn’t one’s alone, it is now two bodies and that second body isn’t the sole object of the one carrying it–there is another party that should have equal say in the matter as it takes two to create a baby and both have equal responsibility. I realize that is not the PC position, but, hey, opposing the slaughter of innocent babies isn’t too PC either, is it?

          • TJtruthandjustice

            Paul, I’m sure as a Christian fanatic you also firmly believe in a heavenly paradise in the hereafter in which angels sing and all is beautiful and good. Since the bundles of embryonic cells you define as “human” are completely innocent souls, according to your beliefs they will go directly to this heavenly paradise upon their death. Or are you trying to save these “babies” from heaven? I’m confused …

          • Paul Mccord

            You are certainly sure of nothing–I’m an agnostic–but I still have the good sense to know when human life starts. One has to take a giant leap to come to the conclusion that a fetus isn’t a human–a leap of great convenience and little intellectual honesty. Once the DNA has formed it is a human being. The embryo has no choice but to continue its path through the stages of life unless it is killed. It’s all there, nothing missing.

          • TJtruthandjustice

            So you are selectively conservative, believing firmly in the sanctity of property rights except in cases in which the property happens to be a woman’s own body. Paul, if you don’t like abortion, make sure not to get one. Otherwise, mind your own business. If you care so very deeply about “the children” there are millions of underfed, neglected children walking the earth this very instant that could use all of the energy and attention you devote to telling women what to do with their bodies.

          • Paul Mccord

            The problem this isn’t an issue of a woman’s body and certainly not property rights but of what constitutes a human and whether human life is worth anything.

          • rusty shackleford

            “but of what constitutes a human and whether human life is worth anything.”….probably the most intelligent comment Ive heard all day….(that still doesnt mean I agree with you)

          • rusty shackleford

            “I’m an agnostic”…you gained my respect
            “but I still have the good sense to know when human life starts”…..you piqued my interest.
            “Once the DNA has formed it is a human being”…..I saw your opinion, based on emotion
            and you were doing so well

          • Paul Mccord

            Based on emotion? Sorry that’s what those who fight for abortion are doing. From the second it is formed it has no other choice but to fulfill its journey through the stages of being human. It can’t become a chair, it can’t become a dog, it can’t become a toe nail, it can’t become anything other than what it is. It can’t decide it doesn’t want to be a human, or that it wants to be an old man and skip the other stages. It is what it is from the beginning to the end. The only thing that changes are its stages of progression and growth. That isn’t emotion.

          • rusty shackleford

            yours is the best argument Ive ever heard for stem cell research

          • Tootrue4you

            Let’s start with yours.

          • rusty shackleford

            Im sure you thought your response was witty, but it is apparent you have no idea where stem cell come from ….do you?

          • Tootrue4you

            Oh, please. Yes I am aware of where they come from. My education and life experiences are so far beyond what you will ever achieve as to make your attempt at insult laughable. I’d advise you to stay in school, but today’s schools turn out tomorrow’s losers.

          • rusty shackleford

            nice try Paul, but what you are referring to is referred to in the scientific community as a parasite and host

          • Paul Mccord

            Parasite and host is the physical description, not the moral description that takes into consideration that both the host and the “parasite” are humans and that the attached human was created by two humans, not one but only by an accident of nature is the female the one who carries it.

          • rusty shackleford

            do you wish to debate morals, or whether or not a “fetus” can be classified as a parasite?

          • Paul Mccord

            Makes no difference if it is physically considered a parasite, that doesn’t negate the moral side of the issue.

          • rusty shackleford

            when your wife screams….do you kill the spider.?…or do you scoop it up and transfer it outside?…(be honest)…sure “it” makes a difference….and you know it does

          • rusty shackleford

            hello?

          • Mike

            Only recently technology has made it a choice. A woman’s wants with regard to having a baby make the event egotistical rather than a necessity or a duty. Vanity destroys the value and character of a human. It reduces a human to less than an animal.

          • wvernon1981

            You’re claiming abortion decreases the value of human life. Do you have any statistics that correlate abortion with violence crime? I believe the statistics show a negative correlation.

          • Corpseman57

            Abortion is violent and VERY painful to the unborn.

          • wvernon1981

            And slaughter is violent and painful to livestock as well. If that’s your objection then, then perhaps a fetal anesthetic would alleviate your concerns.

          • wvernon1981

            I’m not sure how having a child is or should be a necessity or a duty.

          • Mike

            Then you haven’t enough reason to carry on this conversation.

          • wvernon1981

            I’m thinking about this on a deeper level than that because I’m trying to get you to question the assumptions behind what you believe.

          • wvernon1981

            And there is a difference between myself and a fetus. I have desires, I am conscious, and so on. A fetus does not and is not conscious.

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          • Corpseman57

            Abortion isn’t pain free for the ‘fetus.’ Clubbing baby seals is bad, but causing agony in an unborn human is okay?

          • wvernon1981

            I’m not against clubbing baby seals. I don’t particularly care.

          • creatingbliss

            supposed you were being aborted *right now* , would you care?

          • rusty shackleford

            yeah …Im sure you think that your response was cool and witty…but read it again….thats not what she said….had she been aborted….she wouldnt even know the difference….thanks for playing

        • Re:”…Abortion is the theft and destruction of someone else’s gift.” {Doc VB}

          As long as ‘Doc VB’ is discussing her own womb…or the womb of someone who agrees with this P.O.V….
          I agree 100%.

          If Doc VB is discussing any effect / access /unrequested ‘3rd party’ management of anyone else’s womb / soul / anything, what-so-ever…
          Doc Vb needs a ‘winning’ lotto ticket, and the ability to accept being laughed into / out of, court, by the crowds who feel otherwise…for as many ‘days, etc.’ as is required to establish Doc VB’s guilt / innocence and any jail time or fines…
          B.T.W.: …Don’t take my word for it!

          Ask Scott Roeder, if his warden allows visitors!

          At approximately 56-58 years of age Roeder faces at least 50 years before he is even eligible for parole.
          Hence the nic-name: Scott ’50-to-life’ Roeder’!

          Like the Al-Qaida thugs who (eventually) got caught, (post 9-11-01), Mr. Roeder spends much time isolated from the general prison population!

          That is how popular most ‘9mm-theologians’ are…they hover just above (clerical / other) pedophiles….

        • Spoken like someone who has never returned an unwanted Christmas gift for credit before. 😛

          • Mike

            Spoken like someone who has.

          • mondolibre

            Human life ends = cheap presents returned.

            A sick generation.

          • suqsid4

            What’s the credit for slaughtering new life?

          • rusty shackleford

            if by new life you mean future black criminals and welfare recipients….well I think that at least deserves a cigar

          • The ability to focus on my real children! 😀

          • suqsid4

            Opposed to the fake child that you killed?

          • Exactly! 😀 I’m glad you understand the simple concept!

          • suqsid4

            Maybe one day you’ll wake up to the fact that nascent life isn’t fake.

          • Well seeing as how that simply isn’t true I suppose I’ll have to wait until your fictional deity makes pigs fly.

        • Rainier

          .
          @Liberalsareblind1:disqus :

          Your words are Sage and Prophetic. We have at least two generations of Americans who do not know the Almighty God.

          Led by the evil in this world many have fallen into darkness. They fail to see even the simplest Wisdom.

          The wisdom offered by this world views corruption in Government and the story reported is all about the Potential Loss of Power, because power is the drug of fools. Yet not ONE lamentation for all those who are made to Suffer under the corruption of evildoers is brought to light.

          http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CALIFORNIA_LEGISLATURE_CORRUPTION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-03-27-18-29-19
          .

          • Abortion is a ritual murder performed upon an altar of conceit before an idol of vanity,,,

          • Beautifully put. It actually is ritual murder. there’s a lot of evidence that the Occult theocracy which really owns the temporal world and serves Lucifer, specifically a certain secret society which is considered by many scholars of occult research to be the most dangerous secret society in the world, the O.T.O. is the one that started the abortion movement through masterful deceit and infiltration. The true Christian teaching, the traditional Catholic dogma is that aborted babies do not enter heaven because they are not able to receive the sacrament of Baptism. That is the real tragedy behind abortion. Each aborted soul is robbed of not only temporal life, but spiritual life by dying without the sacrament of faith: water baptism. It is human sacrifice each, helpless soul that is aborted goes to the part of hell where there is no fire called the limbo of the children where they are eternally separated from God. Thus each human sacrifice gives the cruel and ruthless, and mediocre tyrants of the world more power. Just as all the megalomaniac and psychopathic despots of the past like the Queen of Hungary who bathed in the blood of virgins for perpetual youth and “beauty”. See http://www.vaticancatholic.com for the uncompromising Christian truth and the defense of the true Catholic church and the condemnation and exposure of the end times couterfeit “Catholic” “church” known as the Vatican II sect.

          • Satanism is a Jewish cult…

          • sickofsin7683

            There is no “limbo” and the Catholic church teaches heresies! We are to be baptized in waters a sign and profession of faith, but it’s not a requirement for salvation/heaven. The fact that you would spew such ungodly lies is appalling. Life begins at conception and at that time a spirit is present. When that life ends, the spirit returns to the Father from which it came. The souls of innocent babies are eternally separated in hell from God b/c of a practice which they had no chance to take part in? Catholics with their sacraments and rituals of man! The church referred to in the Bible is the body of believers, not a denomination and certainly not one that goes against so many of the Bible’s teachings. No hate intended here, but wake up! You’re talking about uncompromising truth and in the same breath talking about a nonexistent place where innocent babies have been doomed? I agree the Vatican is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and a complete sham. However, what’s the difference between what they teach and the lies you’re endorsing? Wrong is wrong and it’s all lies from the devil!

          • You have no idea what you’re talking about and are in heresy. If you had any true knowledge or understanding of church History you would realize that by saying infants can be saved without the sacrament of water baptism is the condemned heresy of the arch heretic John Wyclif who was a predecessor of the body of heresies brought on by the Protestant reformation. Remember, every human being is born with the stain of original sin, except the Virgin Mary. That is a dogma. Its also a dogma that all who die Outside the Catholic church i.e. even those with the sole fault of original sin go to hell. Also, all who die in the church, but in mortal sin also go to hell. You are also in heresy about the sacrament of baptism. You say its just a sign and not necessary for salvation, but you are incorrect. Remember John 3:5 “Amen Amen I say to thee unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” Water baptism is the sacrament of faith and is necessary for all human beings to even be part of the mystical body of Christ. Also, the true Catholic church never preaches heresies and never has. That itself is heresy. The Catholic church is infallible otherwise there is no rule of truth and every thing goes. You really need to see the website: http://www.vaticancatholic.com. You are not even remotely Christian. It is a fact of history that the Catholic church is the Church founded by Jesus Christ, true God and true Man, the Son of God, second person of the Blessed Trinity. It is a fact that He made St. Peter the first Pope of his Catholic, which means Universal, Church. That’s in Matt. 16:16-19. God is not the author of confusion that’s why He gave us just one church and one faith to belong to and believe. Eph. 4:5- “One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism” , not 30,000+ “faiths” such as makes up Protestantism all teaching conflicting “doctrines”. You need to check out the website and humble yourself and really study it. Also you need to pray as many Our Fathers and Hail Marys as you can and ask for the grace to know the true faith.

          • sickofsin7683

            Jesus is the only person to ever live a sinless life. Not Mary or any other person. Mary “found favor in the eyes of God”. She was not perfect. Also, to pray to Mary or any other person is wrong. We are to pray only to the Lord. The only command ever given by Mary was, “Do as my son says.” We should respect Mary in that she was a righteous woman chosen to bear the Savior, but that is all. We are to call no man “father” except our biological fathers and our Heavenly Father and yet you call priests father. We need not be forgiven by a man, only God. Saying a million “hail Mary’s” or “Our Fathers” will do nothing for your salvation as it is not biblical. Do you know what “born of water” means? We must be born of woman! Our souls must inhabit a fleshly body unlike the fallen angels. If you really understood the Bible you would not speak repetitive prayers or worship idols or men! Peter means petras= rock…Christ said Peter was the rock, the cornerstone on which Christianity would be built! Nothing about a pope!The Catholic church is not the one true church or it wouldn’t preach false doctrine. No website will convince me otherwise or make it so. I know many churches today do not teach the truth, but neither does the Cath. church. There were 7 churches in the Bible and only 2 did God’s will and taught the truth. The pope is idolized and seen as basically God on earth and that is sinful. It is antichrist and many Catholics will be fooled in the end times. Look at how they flock to sightings of Mary or Jesus’s face on a tree or a pancake! Statues crying oil or blood! Tricks of the devil to confuse and keep ppl from God. And now the pope says the church needs to be more open to abortion and gay marriage…this is of God??? Two abominations??? I think not. The Catholic church reeks of evil. It is felt and discerned by many God-fearing, Bible-believing people. You are so wrapped up in your feel-good traditions of men that you disregard the Bible. That is the bottom line…the Bible should be followed, with nothing added or taken away. The Catholics have their own Bible and beliefs/rituals that do nothing to glorify God or teach the truth. I’m sorry, but while I have much to be repentant of, believing, practicing and teaching a lie isn’t one of them. If you do not set aside your Catholic ego/pride and truly seek Christ, you will be in bed with the antichrist without a doubt. Why do you think it is okay to go against God’s word?

          • If you actually humbled yourself and looked at the site I mentioned you would realize that they are true Catholics who rightly reject anathematize and condemn the man referred to as “Pope Francis” as a non-Catholic anti-pope who is a complete heretic and apostate. They also reject the sect this man leads as the prophesied end times counterfeit sect posing as and calling itself “Catholic” when it is not. This sect is properly called by all true Christians the Vatican II sect. It is not the Catholic church. The Catholic church still exists although only in a remnant of true Christians who know, hold, profess, and preach all the dogmatic teachings of all the true Popes throughout history. You actually have no idea at all what you are talking about and are spewing all the same old tired protestant fallacies that I a true Bible believing Christian have heard ad nauseum. If you knew anything about the history of Christendom you would know that the Catholic church is the one that gave us the bible. Also you say it is wrong to pray to anyone but God. With that illogical and completely un-Biblical reasoning that means that you can never ask anyone else to pray for you. But I’m sure you have violated that false reasoning countless times. The true biblical teaching is that holy men and women are used by God as powerful intercessors whose petitions persuade him to grant graces to people he otherwise might not grant because of their holy relationship to Him. True Catholics don’t worship Mary and the Saints with the same level of worship they do to God. They just honor these holy men and women as servants of God and go to them to ask favors of the most high God. That is humility. Just as a poor peasant would not go directly to a king to ask a favor in old times but would approach one of the king’s servants to intercede on his behalf because he viewed himself as unworthy to approach the king alone by himself. You haven’t taught me anything new. I know what Peter’s name in aramaic means. True Catholics don’t worship idols or men. You don’t think I’ve heard that countless times before by people just like you who claim to be “Christians” but don’t know the least thing about the history, tradition, and theology of Christendom? Oh and in the passage you’re referring to where Christ condemns the vain repetitions of the pagans. He isn’t condemning repetitive prayers for He himself and many others of His servants in the Bible use repetitive prayers to beg God for favors. What he’s condemning is their paganism in which they thought they had to say and do certain things on certain days and times with human eloquence in their words to please their false gods. He’s trying to tell the people that the True God knows all things and to trust in Him and His providence. You are in complete heresy on so many things. For instance you say the Catholic church preaches false doctrine. That is complete heresy. If you knew anything at all about true Catholicism the only Biblically Christian church, you would know that it has produced thousands of the holiest and most perfect Christian men and women of all time called saints. No other “Church” calling itself “Christian” has produced anyone of such even comparable to these people’s sanctity. Have you ever heard of the holy Catholic priest Padre Pio who died in 1968? There is irrefutable photographic evidence of the miracles he performed. For instance he bore the five wounds of Christ’s crucifixion on his body for fifty years and he has also worked thousands of other well documented legitimate miracles. What you just like almost the rest of the whole world call the “catholic” church is in fact actually the Vatican II sect, the prophesied Whore of Babylon that Christ foretold would come in the last days as a punishment for the sins of the world. It was started by the first modern anti-pope John XXIII in 1958 and completed and fully instated by anti-pope Paul VI in 1969. All the papal Claimants after them and including them were and are non-catholic infiltrators properly called by all true Christians anti-popes. But I forgot you know everything and are so holy and need no correction. NOT!!! You really need to look at the information on the site http://www.vaticancatholic.com before you think you know it all. Luke 18:8 says “When the Son of Man returns, think you he’ll find faith on earth?” That means that almost the whole world filled with people just like you who think they are “Christians” don’t know the first thing about the faith and that only a hand full of true Christians known as true traditional Catholics who die in a state of grace will be saved. Wake up!

          • veteranpatriotamerica

            God fucked your mom

        • Mann D. Lifeboats

          It goes further than you stated, Doc, though what you stated is powerful enough on its own.

          Genesis, the First Book of Moses, says, in verse 1:26, “Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness. . .'”

          Therefore, I suggest, abortion is the world’s war against God Himself. And those who engage in such do the bidding of the Evil One, the Father of Lies, Satan.

          • Satanism is a Jewish cult.

            judaic bolshevist mammonism (baphomet) = mahomet (muslim brotherhood)

            same devil

      • lawngren

        She will care … when it’s too late.

        “But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.” (from 2nd Peter chapter 2)

    • Roldan Fz

      Nice.

    • “Abortion is a gift from God?”
      .
      Only when performed retroactively on [email protected]

      • rusty shackleford

        and blacks…dont forget about future black criminals and welfare recipients

        • I don’t prejudge people based on race. I think it’s fair to wait and see what life choices they make before I choose how to characterize them.

          • tcvegas

            Judgement of people is not best left for God. It is a gift from God to the powerful on earth.

          • chiefpayne

            I believe we must judge people’s ACTIONS as sinful or not…and treat them accordingly.
            If we are NOT to do this, then WHY have the Bible state what is sinful and what is not in the FIRST place??? We are SUPPOSED to judge people’s actions as sinful or not.

          • fbowman

            It’s in the bible to teach you what is sinful so that you can avoid it. You have no place to judge others. That’s God’s job.

          • jj333

            Actually, you’re wrong. God instructs us to judge others so that we can disassociate ourselves with temptation.

          • bamared2222

            True, we cannot judge the motives of a person’s heart, but we can darn sure judge what it is we see them do! If we believe stealing is wrong and we witness someone stealing, we can make the judgment that they have done wrong by stealing. We may not know why they did it, but we know they did it.

          • rusty shackleford

            be careful….calling someone out for their crimes can get you labeled as a racist

          • bamared2222

            The racism charge is a liberal’s only defense; facts are irrelevant…LOL

          • rusty shackleford

            and I suspect it didnt take a 75,000$ degree for you to come to this conclusion?….lol…good work sir

          • bamared2222

            Nope, spent a lot on education, but common sense rules, esp if you are a conservative!

          • READ IT AGAIN MY FRIEND

            Are you not judging others by saying they have no right to judge? Please read the scripture again. Here is a good link. It is one of the most mis used / applied mis quoted of scriptures.
            That is INCORRECT. http://www.cfirecm.com/QandA/Judge%20Not%20Lest%20Ye%20Be%20Judged.htm God Bless my friend.

          • Aurora

            It is not judgement to set matters straight based on morality and the authority of God. But, the authority of God is only recognized if you recognize that God exists and that he as the creator gets to make the rules, not mankind.

          • frylock243

            I agree with you. We can judge the actions, just as we hate the sin but not the sinner. It’s the final judgment of the person we are not to do. Only God can decide whether someone is saved or condemned.

          • rusty shackleford

            meatwad you’re up next with your knock knocks

          • rusty shackleford

            have you had your eyes closed for the last 40 years?

          • I agree that stereotypes do not exist because they are false, they exist because they are prevalent. However, the smartest, nicest, most influential role model in my personal life is black, so I know that simply having a certain color skin does not absolutely mean a person is a lost soul. I would not hesitate a second to vote for a black candidate for high office, if the candidate was someone like Alan West or Thomas Sowell.

          • rusty shackleford

            so basically what your saying is that your mother laid with and supported a black guy…and now somehow you want me to translate that into we are all equal?…pfffft

          • Don’t be a tool. This guy’s had – and to this day still has his choice of women of exceptional class, and of all races. But he chooses to date black women nearly exclusively. Not that it matters. And also, not that it matters, my parents were both white. He has supported himself since he left home for college, and is probably in the list of top ten most accomplished, living engineers in the country. I can guarantee you have seen or been impacted by at least one, and possibly more of the systems he’s designed, depending on where you live. He owns several homes and properties.
            .
            No, RS, we are absolutely NOT all equal. But I still hold out hope that maybe some day you’ll be worthy of shining his shoes.

          • rusty shackleford

            im sorry, but who are you referring to?…some fictional black guy you invented for this post?

          • PW Shields

            Cut to the chase rusty, what’s your point? You seem to be a real racist.

          • Steve Duncan

            You are an idiot.

          • rusty shackleford

            really?…thats it?….man you sure put me in my place…(and without even telling me how I am wrong)….interesting….HEY…I [email protected] that chick holding the red coat…..my god….are you stalking me?

          • Domin8er

            Steve. Come on……

          • Greg Barton

            You don’t know the man.

          • Steve Duncan

            OK – I will alter my statement:
            The man’s own portrayal of himself shows himself to be a rude and obnoxious idiot of the highest degree.
            Better?

          • Greg Barton

            Excellent retort.

          • Robert R

            Whatever Rusty meant, the fact is that the big focus for the abortion industry since its inception has been what Margaret Sanger called the “inferior races.” This is why Planned Parenthood looks with such naked lust at aborting African Americans. According to the statistics they are doing a great job. And liberals should be proud of themselves for maintaining a history of oppression against blacks. Keep them down, keep them poorly educated, keep them fornicating and keep them aborting. The rate of abortion among blacks is higher than their birth rate and yet no liberal seems to give a damn about that.

          • jj333

            And yet blacks continually fail to see that libs don’t do them any real favors. Talk about brainwashed!

          • Aurora

            Absolutely true. And Margaret Sanger didn’t hide her intentions and called it eugenics. Now the left touts Margaret Sanger as a savior to women. What a lie.

          • rusty shackleford

            Sanger specifically said that the blacks were never going to be able to stand on their own 2 feet and assimilate into white society….look around…100 years later….was she wrong?

          • Mr. Hunter

            Maybe they could have if millions hadn’t been aborted.

          • rusty shackleford

            yeaaaaaah…stastistically speaking…….I think you are reaching just a bit……for every 1 ben carson…we have 10,000 trayvon and chantils…..you are going to have to do better than that

          • Brian Barkley

            President, Sec of State, NSA head, Commander of the Joint Cheifs, top actor, actress, sports figures, millionaires, billionaires and educators. They’ve assimilated plenty. The trick is the corruption that follows masked as racism.

          • rusty shackleford

            so basically you came up with one example (ben carson) for every 10,000 black parasitic criminals (trayvon martin)….yeah….you sure put me in my place….how could I have missed it?

          • Brian Barkley

            These dregs are bred by the socialist Utopians.
            Color doesn’t make anyone a jerk
            We have to do that for ourselves.
            These gems of society exist in every color and in every place on the planet.

          • rusty shackleford

            really?….and never can I recall witnessing anything that comes close to the absolute animalistic, uncouth, dangerous and violent behavior that is displayed by todays upstanding black folks…when is the last time you saw a group of whites riot and flip tables at a dennys for a percieved slight? (real or imagined)…when is the last time you saw whites burn down and loot their own neighborhood because of a disappointing court verdict?….when was the last time you saw a group of whites attack a innocent 80 year old playing the knockout game?,,,when was the last time you saw 300 whites storm a walmart and loot and destroy everything in their path in what they refer to as a flash mob? when was the last time you saw whites off each other (daily) in record numbers.?…Do you know how many blacks were killed by other blacks so far this year in chicago alone?…..nope sorry, its not a poor or oppressed thing…its not a public policy thing….it IS a race thing…..but not a white, yellow, brown or red thing……its a black thing……thanks for playing

          • Brian Barkley

            Ask the peaceful citizens of Caracas, or Damascus or Managua. Color isn’t the problem.

          • rusty shackleford

            really?…AAAGGGAAAIIINNN…when is the last time you saw a group of whites riot and flip tables at a dennys for a percieved slight? (real or imagined)…when is the last time you saw whites burn down and loot their own neighborhood because of a disappointing court verdict?….when was the last time you saw a group of whites attack a innocent 80 year old playing the knockout game?,,,when was the last time you saw 300 whites storm a walmart and loot and destroy everything in their path in what they refer to as a flash mob? when was the last time you saw whites off each other (daily) in record numbers.?…Do you know how many blacks were killed by other blacks so far this year in chicago alone?…..nope sorry, its not a poor or oppressed thing…its not a public policy thing….it IS a race thing…..but not a white, yellow, brown or red thing……its a black thing……thanks for playing

          • nostudme1

            “I had a dream.” [Wet?]

        • Bobby Jo

          and the red neck pieces of white trash. You cannot forget all the whitey’s who snort coke, take money from the government and screw our country into the ground.

          • rusty shackleford

            never can I recall witnessing anything that comes close to the absolute animalistic, uncouth, dangerous and violent behavior that is displayed by todays upstanding black folks…when is the last time you saw a group of RED NECKS riot and flip tables at a dennys for a percieved slight? (real or imagined)…when is the last time you saw RED NECKS burn down and loot their own neighborhood because of a disappointing court verdict?….when was the last time you saw a group of RED NECKS attack a innocent 80 year old playing the knockout game?,,,when was the last time you saw 300 RED NECKS storm a walmart and loot and destroy everything in their path in what they refer to as a flash mob? when was the last time you saw RED NECKS off each other (daily) in record numbers.?…Do you know how many blacks were killed by other blacks so far this year in chicago alone?…..nope sorry, its not a poor or oppressed thing…its not a public policy thing….it IS a race thing…..but not a white, yellow, brown or a RED NECK thing……its a black thing……thanks for playing

          • Bobby Jo

            Rusty, I am sure you are correct in narrow winded views. Pieces of white trash like you are the perfect example of why Blacks hate whites. You are the perfect reason they play the knockout game and you are the reason our country is sliding backwards. I laughed out loud at your post. Just another old, white guy soiling his diapers.

          • rusty shackleford

            no the reason they do what they do….is because of white guilt ridden people such as yourself let them get away with it,,,,because you believe they cant help it…they are victims…they dont know any better…its just easier to give them my tax dollars…then to ask them to behave….dont pretend its anything more than that

          • Bobby Jo

            I have great employees who are black and they show up on time, work hard and create no problems. Versus the white kids who are stoned, hung over or strung out on heroin. I have no guilt, I speak the truth and you speak out of fear and Self-righteousness

          • rusty shackleford

            thats the great thing about the internet….you can pretend to be a business owner…(who is posting at 3 in the afternoon..lol)…and pretend to employ all these mythical fine upstanding black folk….I dont speak from fear….I speak from undeniable facts, statistics, news reports and my own 2 eyes…thanks for playing “boss man”…lol

          • Bobby Jo

            I got hit by a puck playing hockey and shattered my foot and just had surgery, so I cannot do anything right now. PLus, my partner runs the day to day. That being said, i laugh at your stats. Again, just another red neck piece of white trash running scared, i love it, little man

          • rusty shackleford

            ooooh…so you are laid up?…lol….your partner runs things?..lol……and of course I would never expect a liberal such as yourself to look at FBI or B of Prison statistics and admit we have a problem….but thats what happens when you dont teach your kids from right or wrong and end up stuck raising your daughters half black baby..(your views get severely twisted)….like I said…the internet is great…”boss man”

          • Bobby Jo

            I voted for Reagan and both Bush’s, so again, your narrow minded point of view is shot down again. I see a pattern here and that is, your sixth grade education is failing you

          • Domin8er

            Now you’ve gone too far. Lying sack of sheet.

          • GenJohnStarkReturns

            Voted Bush? So you are a liberal, you just don’t know it.

          • rusty shackleford

            so you voted for both bushes….and Im the dummy with the sixth grade education?…lol…fool me once shame on me…you…me….fool me twice, and sh,,,sh….we wont be fooled again….yeah…and I lack education?…lol….this is rich

          • Bobby Jo

            said the fool. good day Dale

          • Domin8er

            A puck can’t shatter a foot through boot skates you butt sniffing twink.

          • Bobby Jo

            so the 8 pins in my feet aren’t there old man? You may want to do some research, other than a new type of diaper, saucer licker

          • Domin8er

            Bullsheyatt. The pins are in your head, pinhead.

          • Bobby Jo

            for a red neck you sure know how use the red neck typing very well.

          • rusty shackleford

            I believe the pins are there about as much as I believe you are successful business owner with several upstanding black employees that help make your (fictional) business a success

          • Bobby Jo

            Dale, Dale, Dale, you spend way too much time in the basement sniffing glue. You have nothing to offer to this world. too bad your parents did not believe in abortion. Now go get on the short bus

          • Lola Guin

            So all white kids are on heroin and all blacks are great employees and beacons of virtue? What are you smoking?

          • Bobby Jo

            please copy and paste where I said those things. I will wait for those exact words. thank you skank

          • rusty shackleford

            I have great employees who are black and they show up on time, work hard
            and create no problems. Versus the white kids who are stoned, hung
            over or strung out on heroin…..anything else I can help you with?

          • Bobby Jo

            so where did I say “all white kids are on heroin?” or “All blacks are great and beacons of virtue?” what you sent Rustoleum is not even close. But what would i expect from a racist who has no ability to comprehend s simple direction. Try again, Red

          • rusty shackleford

            you basically said that blacks are fine upstanding employees and the whites are all strung out on heroin….are you sure you didnt take a puck to the head bossman?…lol

          • Bobby Jo

            again, well fare boy, i was speaking about my employee’s. and again, I understand your inability to read and comprehend. Have a nice day sonny

          • rusty shackleford

            you were referring to your (fictional) upstanding black employees….and you expect everyone to believe that your fictional business is a vortex that somehow changes the nature of blacks when they walk through your (fictional) businesses doorway….yep…we all stare in awe and wonder how you were able to….how should I say….”part the “black” sea” so to speak….please dont stop “bossman”…this is too entertaining…do proceed

          • Bobby Jo

            so you are saying all blacks are bad and only white people are good? wow, now it makes sense why people like you run scared.

          • rusty shackleford

            all blacks?…no no no…I stated for every Ben Carson there are 10,000 trayvon martins…but somehow you overcame all the odds and found several great upstanding black employees to further your (fictional) successful business enterprise…lol….I used to think you cant make this stuff up….but here you are…pining for your half black grandbabys affection…lol…you should play the lottery…you have awesome luck indeed

          • Bobby Jo

            awwww, what a good boy. you pulled your token black guy out of the closet. Now that is funny.
            good day boy

          • rusty shackleford

            did you mean “welfare”?….lol…quite the educated businessman you are

          • Bobby Jo

            yes, auto correct screws up. Thank you for being a great teacher, such a good girl

          • rusty shackleford

            auto correct?…lol…thats the kind of do it yourself rugged individualism I would expect from a (fictional) business owner as yourself….good one bossman

          • Bobby Jo

            thank you son. I am sure you free Reagan phone does not send out emails, so it figures you do not understand auto correct, Getting ready for a nice boat ride in the ocean on a great day. ahhhhhhhhhh, i love my life

          • rusty shackleford

            yeah you said you were hitting the water numerous times in this post….but here you sit…lol…dont worry, its the internet…we can claim anything we want

          • Bobby Jo

            Dale, I am sure you have seen mobile devices on TV where you can access the internet on a pad or phone. I love the thick headed young ladies such as yourself

          • rusty shackleford

            yes. and here comes the part where you claim to be Michael Weston…like I said…the internet is a great place where you can claim to be anyone or anywhere you wish

          • Bobby Jo

            I would never be so naive to put my name here or any public forum like these strings. have a great day sonny

          • rusty shackleford

            Bobby Jo


            9 days ago

            by the way, whineStein, you make me laugh. i travel the world and am
            working on a show in Chicago right now. i think of whiners like you
            who think they are superior when in reality you are a leach in this
            world. Thanks for making me laugh and I am so thankful i am not
            anything like you……Boy I could of sworn you said above that you own a business….but 6 days ago you claimed to be a jet setter….which is it?….lol….I love the web

          • Domin8er

            Skank? You know this woman?

          • Bobby Jo

            hey old man, it is dinner time, go eat you mashed peas and change your diaper

          • Domin8er

            Boy, you are really on the ball, so bounce up and blow me.

          • Bobby Jo

            I told you I will not return the favor. don’t drag your teeth so much next time

          • Domin8er

            Wow! A talking aborted fetus. Amazing.

          • Bobby Jo

            but as usual you swallowed like a champ. good boy

          • dgd

            whiner… and you are the reason blacks will always be suspected of being inferior – you are the reasont he ocuntry is sliding backwards because you just mooch and mooch and mooch – it’s funny becasue I laughed out loud at yours – just another whiney useless minority lashing out because he can’t measure up

          • Bobby Jo

            I am white, you insipid little girl

          • Lola Guin

            Umm, no. You’re trash. Color doesn’t even enter into it.

          • Lola Guin

            You’re justifying assault on innocent people purely for the color of their skin? Then you have the audacity to call other people “trash”? You, sir or madam, are a hypocrite and a savage who isn’t fit for civilized society.

          • Bobby Jo

            oh, Lola, what a silly little girl. now crawl back under your rock

          • Lola Guin

            That’s all you have? What a feeble attempt at a comeback.

          • Bobby Jo

            thank you

          • rusty shackleford

            is that your daughters half black baby you got stuck raising that I hear in the background?….its ok…we know why people like you post the things that you do….but it would of been much easier to just teach your daughter right from wrong in the beginning

          • just_the_facts_man

            So you admit that Blacks are racist and do violent things to white people because they hate them.

          • Bobby Jo

            I admit it is a two way street and the white pieces of trash are experiencing karma

          • rusty shackleford

            you are damn right I am correct….feel free to post facts that prove me wrong…..dont worry…Ill wait

          • Bobby Jo

            facts about what little man?

          • rusty shackleford

            facts that prove me wrong on my assertation of the black race…..Did you forget already?…(that terrible memory cant be good for your fictional business)…ok 1 more time….never can I recall witnessing anything that comes close to the absolute animalistic, uncouth, dangerous and violent behavior that is displayed by todays upstanding black folks…when is the last time you saw a group of whites riot and flip tables at a dennys for a percieved slight? (real or imagined)…when is the last time you saw whites burn down and loot their own neighborhood because of a disappointing court verdict?….when was the last time you saw a group of whites attack a innocent 80 year old playing the knockout game?,,,when was the last time you saw 300 whites storm a walmart and loot and destroy everything in their path in what they refer to as a flash mob? when was the last time you saw whites off each other (daily) in record numbers.?…Do you know how many blacks were killed by other blacks so far this year in chicago alone?…..nope sorry, its not a poor or oppressed thing…its not a public policy thing….it IS a race thing…..but not a white, yellow, brown or red thing……its a black thing……now prove what I said to be wrong….crickets

          • Bobby Jo

            We have been robbed three times in the past year and every time it was white kids. Last week we had a 36ch Trident console stolen and the three white kids tried to sell it to one of our vendors. i do not buy into the race game, but you ignorant white pieces of trash make me laugh. hitting the water Dale. have a great day

          • rusty shackleford

            and statistics show that while you were robbed by 3 white kids…..thousands of people were robbed by fine upstanding black kids….surely you know how statistics are formed do you not?…did you honestly think that 40 years of coddleing these pavement apes wouldnt somehow rub off on a few below average IQ white kids do you?….but lets just appease the blacks some more…..im sure everything will turn out just fine….oh and if you reply again….could you at least address some of my above comments and tell me how I am wrong?…you getting robbed by 3 white wanna be n199ers does not prove that Im wrong

          • Bobby Jo

            you are right and i am sure you are the smartest people you know. These white kids are all upper class kids from a gated community. They knew the console was and gear was worth more than 40K so they knew what they were doing. And your relatives all had heroin on them too.,

          • Domin8er

            Bobbicious Jo mama – don’t act like a stupid coon.

          • Bobby Jo

            I press your hood and robe masser

          • Domin8er

            I prefer Chinese laundries. They do a perfect job.

          • GenJohnStarkReturns

            They made em, they probably know best how to clean em.

          • bobdog19006

            Just checked, Rusty. The current death toll in Chicago is 67, 50 of whom are victims of illegal handguns. As far as I know, almost none of these murders involve long guns of any sort, and almost all of the handguns were illegally purchased and possessed – in other words, “street guns”. Cabella’s was not involved. Over 2/3 occurred in about 12 inner city neighborhoods. Those aren’t opinions; they’re provable facts.

            We can expect that number to climb once the weather improves. Hunting season doesn’t actually open until about April 1.

            If past statistics hold true, 80% of shooting victims will be black, 18% Hispanic, and 2% white.

            The upshot of all this is that that guns are not the problem. Inner city gangbangers are the problem.

          • rusty shackleford

            thanks for verifying what I said to be true….good man

        • ReadMyLipsNoFatGovs

          Racist fool.

          • rusty shackleford

            awww did you get stuck raising your daughters half black baby?

        • ConservativeRedneck

          God gave is free will. That was kind of a dumb thing to say in your post. Would you like to be prejudged?

          • rusty shackleford

            sure….that is what we as intelligent thinkers do every day….do you avoid snakes?…do you avoid scorpions?…do you avoid lions, tigers and bears (oh my)…why do you stay away from these dangers?….your answer is the same reason I stay away from black savages…..go ahead and judge me on the content of my character….thats all Im doing to blacks…remembering and learning from past experiences …nice try though

          • ConservativeRedneck

            I agree with about 90% of what you say in THIS post but this is what you said in the one I responded to.

            ‘never can I recall witnessing anything that comes close to the absolute animalistic, uncouth, dangerous and violent behavior that is displayed by todays upstanding black folks’

            That’s using a mighty wide brush. Here in the Red state of Idaho we have an open carry policy and don’t have as much of that crap as in other parts of the country I believe because of that policy. I believe as a Republican once said, a man should be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin, No one has a choice in that, just no one but God that is.

          • rusty shackleford

            what have you witnessed daily in all your years that comes close to the uncouth animalistic behavior displayed by todays upstanding black savages?….dont worry …ill wait

          • ConservativeRedneck

            AGAIN, you use a BROAD brush! You seem to have a real problem with individual responsibility. Accountability. Myself, I say as far as the knockout game goes, for the ones that are caught, mandatory 25 years no early release. Overcrowding? WHO CAES!! Stack em like cord wood. But you keep throwing stones if ya like. Seems you prefer that.

          • rusty shackleford

            did I ask you what the penalty for black savages should be?…nope….nice try tho….try to stay on track and answer my question…..what have you witnessed daily in all your years that comes close to the uncouth animalistic behavior displayed by todays upstanding black savages?…still waiting

          • ConservativeRedneck

            Ok, from reading your posts, you simply prefer to be argumentative. Nothing more. So go back to your being an AZZCLOWN I’m done! NEXT?

          • rusty shackleford

            thats the reply Id expect from someone who is rendered speechless at the thought of trying to answer a simple question….so AGAIN….what have you witnessed daily in all your years that comes close to the uncouth animalistic behavior displayed by todays upstanding black savages?…still waiting……crickets…..thanks for playing sugar tits

        • JohnL1313

          If you are going to quote Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood and icon to the Left (Hillary proudly has a Sanger Award) you should at least cite the quote and grant her credit.

          • rusty shackleford

            On blacks,
            immigrants and indigents:

            “…human weeds,’ ‘reckless
            breeders,’ ‘spawning… human beings who never should have been born.”
            Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people

            “The most merciful thing that a large, black family does
            to one of its infant members is to kill it.” Margaret Sanger,
            Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

          • JohnL1313

            Well done! And this is the patron saint-ess of the Left. They adore Sanger.

          • rusty shackleford

            yeah that sort of confuses me…..they are so pro black that they actually got the MSM to stop reporting on the DAILY black crime that takes place every day in the US…..almost as if someone doesnt want us to judge them by the content of their character

          • JohnL1313

            Black people aren’t inherently “bad” as Sanger proposes. I agree with Bill Cosby. We don’t do anyone any favors when we sugar coat societal problems, one of them being black on black crime and the fact that over 70% of black children are born without a father figure. This is what leads to the societal decline, not the faulty proposition of Sanger’s claiming they are “human weeds”.

          • rusty shackleford

            you can argue what we should refer to them as all day long…..it doesnt change the fact that she said (more than once) that blacks would never be able to stand on their own 2 feet without the help of govt. or massive amounts of money(taxes) from white people….the only question I have is….after 100 years…look around….was she wrong?….thats the point everyone is missing…WAS SHE WRONG?

          • JohnL1313

            Yes, she was wrong. They’ve been enslaved under the thumb of the Democratic Party and it’s policies of dependency.

          • rusty shackleford

            if what you say is true…then why dont we see the same behavior with whites that have been on welfare since FDR?…its the same policies are they not?….come on you can do better than that….thanks for playing

          • JohnL1313

            I see, so you agree with Sanger and the leftists that take a Darwninist view of life.

            Thanks for playing.

        • ManassasGrandma

          Left wing troll.

          • rusty shackleford

            really?….stuck raising your daughters half black baby much?

      • Buck Ofama

        A+

      • TheBitterClinger1

        I understand the sentiment and have said such myself-but God Himself will deal with the Sheep and the Goats.

    • JR349853

      Remember all sins are equal. So this is no worse than gluttony.

      • matt

        Show me that passage in the bible. I don’t recall God obliterating nations for gluttony. Only baby sacrifice and homosexuality.

        • rusty shackleford

          the wages of sin is death….anything else I can help you with?

      • Guest

        ..

      • Lola Guin

        Not in the Catholic faith. There are varying degrees of sin, mortal and venial sins. Murder is not equal to stealing a pack of gum. Common sense.

        • rusty shackleford

          the wages of sin is death….what sin?….SIN the wages of sin is death…….theft?…adultrey?….lying?…cheating?……….stealing?…yes..yes yes yes and yes…..the wages of sin is death

    • JamalJenkum

      It is indeed a gift when applied to pregnant blacks. Think of all of the savings:

      Less merchandise shoplifted

      Fewer Flash Mobs Raiding Convenience Stores

      Fewer black teens shooting babies in the face to rob its broke mother.

      A 99% drop in interracial rape, which is 99% black on white, with zero blacks raped by white people.

      Gosh, the benefits are endless. How can we replace food stamps with crocodile feces, mixed with fermented dough, and placed in the vagina

      • rusty shackleford

        you sir are a scholar….and a gentleman….I bow to your unabated view of the facts….thank you

    • bcmugger

      People like the one this article is about should have been aborted.

    • Chuck Pelto

      Such people as this ‘artist’ are of Satan.

    • RecoveringLiberal

      Absolutely.

    • TheSunDidIt

      I used to wonder how I would feel about the “evil” folk being tossed into the lake of fire. Now, I think it would deserve a standing ovation.

    • Jack

      Indeed what we have in many universities are educated idiots. They may do complicated equations but have no idea of what is right and what is wrong. Abortion was the doing of man. God had no such plan, otherwise He would not have given mankind the ability to procreate. These people are idiots, and I say this with great sadness.

      • wvernon1981

        A god doesn’t determine what is right or wrong anymore than you do. If God said child molestation was a good thing, would it therefore be right?

    • TheBitterClinger1

      Indeed; this fool may think she is clever but God is NOT mocked. But if Heather Ault does repent of her foolish ways the Heavens themselves will rejoice.

    • espy

      I could not have put that better.

    • As long as we are quoting the Bible, let’s remember that men are not allowed to shave their faces and women are not allowed to speak in church. Also, a dude has to buy and marry a woman if he rapes her and she was a virgin. Seems legit

      • rusty shackleford

        and we should kill, gays, witches, people who dare work on sunday, and lets not forget…all those “sinners” who refused to be circumsized….but hey….at least god laid out rules as to how we should humanely treat our slaves….god I love the book of leviticus

        • Sunday is fine for working. Tons of Christians are too dumb to realize that Saturday is the Sabbath Day (hence the name of the day….Spanish= Sabado = Sabbath). Changing it to Sunday was just one of the many changes for convenience that the buffet Christians adopted (you know, because they know better than God and JC)

          • rusty shackleford

            are you now saying god was wrong…and we shouldnt have slaves?…or work on the sabbath?…or kill gays?…or witches?….So god is always rtight?…is that what you are saying?…..and what does the spanish word for sabbath have anything to do with it?….you trust a race that cant get anything right the first time….(RE-fried beans)

          • I’m saying that I’m not a Christian, so I don’t have a stake in it. However, it’s entertaining to see people quote the Bible that they themselves don’t understand or follow.

          • rusty shackleford

            exactly…thats the same view I take about libs that ignore the overwhelming black crime statistics….

    • Nicolas Edwards

      you have 4 fingers point right back at yourself!

    • wvernon1981

      Ezekiel 23:20: ” There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.”

      • Mike

        36 The Lord said to me: “Son of man, will you judge Oholah and Oholibah? Then confront them with their detestable practices, 37 for
        they have committed adultery and blood is on their hands. They
        committed adultery with their idols; they even sacrificed their
        children, whom they bore to me, as food for them. 38 They have also done this to me: At that same time they defiled my sanctuary and desecrated my Sabbaths. 39 On the very day they sacrificed their children to their idols, they entered my sanctuary and desecrated it. That is what they did in my house.

        “So I will put an end to lewdness in the land, that all women may take warning and not imitate you. 49 You will suffer the penalty for your lewdness and bear the consequences of your sins of idolatry. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign Lord.”

        • wvernon1981

          “ If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.”

          Sent from Windows Mail

    • Re: “Isaiah 5:20: etc.”

      I’m NOT Christian…

      The content of a bible / any-all (other) religious books, NOT connected to my specific sub-order of Pagan Belief is/are of ZERO INTEREST / relevance to me, unless, after you shove it in my face…

      During an uncertified / unrequested, ‘street counseling’ outside an abortion clinic, (for example)…it results in my taking your bank account(s), attached, (‘punitive damages’)…
      Converting your former business / home / other real estate for cash, and/or, imprisonment, for stalking / violence / ‘not taking the hint’…

      Remember, while i WON’T be shoving a pagan-bible -equivelent in anyone’s face…I have the EXACT same religious-practice rights as any American citizen has…
      Summed up by the well known acronym: ‘M.Y.O.B.’!

      Think ‘bout it: I can practice religion ‘X’.
      I can practice religion ‘Y’.
      I can mix ‘N match theologies, as I feel so moved, to do…and…
      I ALSO have ZERO obligations to practice (any) religion, if that’s the way I roll.
      Fines can begin at $100’s to $1,000’s of dollars a day, depending on circumstances!

      As for Hobby Lobby’s doomed Supreme Court effort…don’t make me laugh!
      Have they thought their ‘religious-freedom-as-hate-filled-piety’
      idea, through?

      For example…

      What if a ‘Hobby Lobby’ suddenly finds itself affected / afflicted by suppliers / other businesses / individuals, who…
      Concerned about the anti-business atmosphere, decide NOT to do business with them??

      Great Britain is at least two ‘beds, ‘N breakfasts’, fewer, as a result of similar (unprofessional) behaviors!

      Economic, (as well as ‘moral’), ‘bankruptcy’, anyone??

      • disqus_qG6DEDBc2V

        Judging from Chick Fil A, I believe hobby lobby will do just fine.

    • dixiesuzan

      Please recognize these folks are also followers of Friedrich
      Wilhelm Nietzsche.
      Quote — The time has come to oppose morality with immorality, to call what priests call good,…. evil and what they call evil, … good. The time has come for the transvaluation of all values. — Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche — Thus Spake Zarathustra

      Quote — We moralists do not even need to lie… We would come into power without the truth… The magic that fights for us is the magic of extremism. — Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

    • BestTV

      Liberal-animals they only lie to themselves. Welcome to planet-Obama: Good is bad and bad is good.

      “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom” – Psalm 111

    • Alex Winters

      Agree 100%. Punishing the child for the sins of the mother & father…..evil & disgusting!!!

    • SusanDNoble

      He would reject the pro-life atheist for not accepting Christ, and the Pro-kill believer would be rejected for acting like a Sadducee or one caught up in ritual for the sake of ritual, Christian by name alone, not buy thought or action. http://ll2.de/2/CRB/

    • roadrunner

      yu tok the words right out of my mouth could not have said it better

  • Jason

    Socialists and communists infiltrated our Colleges and Universities in the 1930’s. With the indoctrination of each generation, socialists now have control of most seats of power in America, including the media and White House.

    • tnmccoy

      And the low information idiots out there keep electing these clowns as they pull the tent down over us.

  • Dawn McColm

    It’s sad when the most dangerous place on earth is a mother’s womb.
    More than 56,662,169 babies have been slaughtered in the U.S. since Roe v. Wade. And yet we have the audacity to sing “God Bless America.”

    • Jason

      …50% of them future women!

      • morefandave

        Yes, and isn’t it funny that all these liberals in Congress, supposedly pro-women, who accuse the Republicans of waging a war on women, wouldn’t even consider a bill outlawing abortions based on the sex of the fetus (girls are aborted much more frequently than boys). They decided it was more important to preserve the unfettered right to kill all of them than to protect the girls from in utero discrimination.

      • Bill

        And ALL of them lost Taxpayers. Think of that part too.

    • rocketw

      It would actually be much more than the 56 million, because many of the oldest or older of them would be parents now and maybe even grandparents. Could we have thwarted the will of God over 100 million times now in aborting these children? God is not going to bless America. I choke when I hear those words.

      • Dawn McColm

        So true.

  • ckirmser

    Orwell only had the title wrong.

  • kpduty

    Abortion/murder is not a gift from God! It is the ultimate act of selfishness> A woman who could not say NO can say yes to sex and then murder! Wow a wonder woman of pure nonsense —I think it might be smart to murder the or wait abort- the woman and keep the fetus going and birth the baby- who needs such a worthless mother? Abort her!!

  • phil

    There’s a special place in Hell for these idiots!

  • Tracker1973

    I recommend that the University of Michican have each of their artists read Histoire de ma via, by Giacomo Casanova. They will be shocked when they discover how religious that rascal was, not to mention his adoration towards his children. Especially where he fooled a young woman who was with child (not his own) into believing that God was protecting the child from the abortion drugs.

  • Lykeuhfox

    Generally speaking, infanticide is a barbaric practice. Glorifying it is sadistic at best.

  • peasant

    “The greatest destroyer of peace is abortion because if a mother can kill her own child, what is left for me to kill you and you to kill me? There is nothing between.” Mother Teresa

  • Paul Richard

    These leftist humans are ill. They are Neanderthals. They have failed to evolve.

  • fantum

    Typical atheist, liberal, Democrat…

    They love to stand on their head and tell everyone else that they are upside-down.

  • rkball

    The wrath of God poured out on evil is also “a gift from God”.

    • Jason

      That Gift is coming soon!

  • Hans

    Further proof of the stupidity in today’s “creative” artists. The only way they can be “creative” is to be obnoxious. Maybe they should have another “creative” exhibit showing how “green” it is to burn these aborted babies in hospital heating systems.

  • doree10

    Dogs don’t kill their babies and they will attack anything that comes near to hurt one. Society has lost it’s soul-so many don’t even have the respect for human life that a dog has…

    • Bee

      Liberals are the first to protest when anyone does anything even remotely harmful to an animal. Yet kill an innocent baby? They are all for it.

  • Πεδοπηίλια;;;

    You can’t make this stuff up. An ancient Greek guy named “Sor-anus”?

    • Jason

      He was the butt of every joke.

  • Patriot67

    Do they mean the false god lucifer! This thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.
    Jesus came that they may have life, and have it to the full.

  • Magwheelz

    Abort: to end a pregnancy deliberately by causing the death of the fetus

    I’m sure God is so pleased. The killing of a developing human being.

  • ThomasP

    This is blasphemy. The right to LIFE trumps the right to a Choice.

  • Realright

    There are some very very sick people out there.

  • Abort progressives

    “He”????

    The images were created by Heather Ault, whom a University of Michigan webpage says is “a visual artist, pro-choice activist, and independent scholar creating artwork to shift conversations about reproductive rights and justice.”

  • John Baker

    Well That’s Fine…

  • J2

    Describing abortion as a “gift” from God is patently offensive, and meant to be so.

  • Jason

    These are the same people that believe weather will “destroy civilization”.

  • Guest

    What’s so intellectually dishonest about citing 4,000 years of abortion is that people of a progressive mindset become blindingly ultra-conservative when it comes to advancements in cellular biology. Almost half a century ago, scientific understanding came to define the threshold for determining life as “autopoeisis” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopoiesis), or a cell’s ability to replicate. Coupling what science deems to be alive with Liberal bedrock belief that Science must be the only authority for defining human existence, how can anyone argue that an embryo is NOT alive? And as it is a HUMAN embryo, how can the alive organism be anything but human?

    Neither science nor God support abortion as a reproductive right; by ANY moral code it amounts to a violation of a human’s right to life and is premeditated murder…yet when a liberal starts on global warming or macro-evolution they point immediately to science (which in both instances is uncertain at the very best). And the University of Michigan, an institution of higher learning, supports this intellectual dishonesty? For shame…

  • FortSteve

    This woman must truly hate herself to resort to gaining attention to her “art” by glamorizing murder. I’d like to see her defend her art and her views to God.

  • JDM17

    Almost half a century ago, scientific understanding came to define the threshold for determining life as “autopoeisis” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A…, or a cell’s ability to replicate. Coupling what science deems to be alive with Liberal bedrock belief that Science must be the only authority for defining human existence, how can anyone argue that an embryo is NOT alive? And as it is a HUMAN embryo, how can the alive organism be anything but human?

    Neither science nor God support abortion as a reproductive right; by ANY moral code it amounts to a violation of a human’s right to life and is premeditated murder…yet when a liberal starts on global warming or macro-evolution they point immediately to science (which in both instances is uncertain at the very best). And the University of Michigan, an institution of higher learning, supports this intellectual dishonesty? For shame…

  • Ezra Pound

    Abortion advocates should be retro-actively aborted.

    • Jason

      Will be into Hell.

  • schlaumeier56

    Declaring ‘abortion to be a gift from God’ places the proverbial cart before the horse in that people who are determined to have it their way NO MATTER WHAT are casually (and quite unrepentantly) ready to assume that God is there to bless their selfish sin.

  • ChasStevenson

    “anything 46 million women do every year can’t be immoral.”

    True for men, too?: Polygamy? Adultery? Rape? Harassment of less powerful women? Can’t be immoral because at least 46 million men do those things each year?
    If you don’t buy it for men, why buy it for women who violate the less powerful, their own babies?

    (Hint: ‘Because they are women’ is circular reasoning.)

  • rscott

    This worthless lounge lizard is a sick POS….

  • American Philosopher

    I could respect the view point until the last sentence “anti-chioce”. If you want to perpetuate propaganda and demonize people just because they disagree with you, get into politics. If you have a true concern for the truth and the well-being and advancement of society, then you become an artist. Keep your “pro-choice” and “pro-life” and the antithesis thereof dribble to yourself.

  • TennesseeRedDog

    The images were created by Heather Ault, whom a University of Michigan webpage says is “a visual artist, pro-choice activist, and independent scholar creating artwork to shift conversations about reproductive rights and justice.”

    A scholar? Heather is probably a big fan of war then. It meets all her requirements. Free sex and lots of death.

  • mrbill59

    university of Michigan – do not send your kids there especially your daughters.

  • juanmeden

    The ability of the liberal mind to ignore outright contradictions defies explanation.

    • schlaumeier56

      The curious thing about liberal thought is that whenever it does have any contradiction in its reasoning brought to its attention, the practitioners of said thought invariably attribute said contradiction to the inherent complexity and dialectical structure of the subject at hand and skate over its occurrence.

      In short, a contradiction is only ever a contradiction in the eyes of the liberal when it can be located within a conservative line of thinking.

  • Stranex

    anything 46 million women do every year can’t be immoral.”

    –Written by a total moron.

  • bloodaxe

    How sick can you get?

  • brwaldbaum

    A gift from God? Good, so I don’t have to pay for it.

  • jstan442

    55 million babies dead from abortion is not God’s gift–ps 139:15-16-talks of the person hood of a baby at the beginning of conception-there are other verses which declare children a blessing–only someone so selfish,unfeeling,uncaring would consider it a gift–God will not be mocked-there will be a payday for these abominations

  • James Bizzo

    These proponents of evil are in for a shock when they meet their maker

    • Beavereater

      They don’t believe in a maker. They think they came out of the anus of the earth.

  • Luca

    Liberalism is a death cult

  • Nitro Norris

    LIFE is a gift from God, you POS!!!

  • Corpseman57

    I want to see this “gift.” We have the technology to videotape the abortion–before, during and after. Put monitors on the ‘fetus’ showing heart rate, etc. Instruct us as to how painful this brutal “gift” is.

    Educate us. We’re only getting fluff.

  • Bill Porto

    I wonder how “art” depicting the actual procedure would go over? A recreation from Tiller or Gosnell’s little shop of horrors I think would be a lot less uplifting in their celebration of this ‘gift’.

    • Corpseman57

      Exactly. We need to start showing actual abortions,so that women are fully informed before they CHOOSE.

  • FaithColeridge33

    They said it best themselves:
    ” vital strategies and tactics”
    That’s all their so called belief in God is.

  • josetoyou

    Whoever came up with this will have another chance to explain it when they meet their creator…I don’t think it will go very well.

  • tnmccoy

    Disgusting that they would celebrate baby murder and claim God is okay with it. I hope no federal funds helped pay for this travesty. It seems these idiots run and condemn anything on the basis of one complaint. Well, I’m complaining. So shut it out!!

    • Smithsonin1

      Unfortunately, it looks like both State and Federal funds.
      ‘As for the display on campus, it is sponsored in part by the publicly funded Program for Sexual Rights and Reproductive Justice, an arm of the University of Michigan’s department of obstetrics and gynecology.’
      ‘We the People’ were forced to enable this travesty.

  • Reader11722

    Free Speech, do not touch it. End of free speech, yet another violation of our rights. The gov’t constantly violates our rights.

    They violate the 1st Amendment by caging protesters and banning books like “America Deceived II”.

    They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by allowing TSA to grope you.

    They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars.

    Impeach Obama.

    Last link of “America Deceived II” before it is completely banned:

    amazon com/America-Deceived-II-Possession-interrogation/dp/1450257437

  • justaman

    Truth be told, many women and men are haunted by their past participation in this “gift”.

    • Stranex

      Murder is hard to live down.

    • Smithsonin1

      It’s so sad that abortion is presented as safe and freeing. Nothing could be further from the truth.

  • Stranex

    Im sure this artwork would be hanging in Hell.

  • DJH78745

    It still amazes me that this ignorance is considered intelligent discourse. What a moron.

  • Man Revolt

    See what happens when ya’ give women the right to vote, and let them think they are actually man’s equal. Enjoy the decline folks!

    • Bee

      I am a woman, and I hate that it’s come to this, but I almost agree with you. Women, who have taken claim as the “gentler sex” are now some of the most horrible, nasty, narcissistic people. If you don’t believe me, go to any women’s forum or blog and read the comments. It’s absolutely horrible. And now we kill our own babies just because it’s too inconvenient for us? Not only that, but these liberal hags try to devalue the traditional family structure and label it as somehow anti-feminist. What is wrong with women enjoying family? What is wrong with women being cautious and intelligent about whom they have sex and children with? This is what happens when we let emotions rule rather than logic, and I am so ashamed of my fellow women.

  • SerfCityHereWeCome

    Gee, I wonder how leftism ever got associated with mental illness…?

  • Kurlee Locks

    I suggest they start critically thinking about the fact that contraception is not abortion and abortion is not contraception, but snuffing out life.

  • Texas Horseman

    You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s
    desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, and has nothing to do
    with the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he
    speaks out of his own character, for he is a liar and the father of
    lies.

  • Tim

    (Quote) anything 46 million women do every year can’t be immoral (End Quote)

    Only a satanically inspired liberal mind could call mass infanticide “moral.”

  • they ought to be thralled when christians shout out ,”ARMOGEDDON is a gift of god”
    the post birth abortion crowd and its celibration of life without toads

  • kendrick1

    Anything to gain attention!

  • Amerika_Lost

    “4000 Years for Choice” should be titled “4000 years and Moloch worship continues”

  • drjake43

    These people should understand that the one sin that cannot be forgiven is to claim that evil comes from God or that good comes from the devil. That is blasphemy of the highest order and will land you in hell. At some point they will come to rue this perfidy and seek absolution but Christ tells us that will availeth not.

  • Paul

    I wonder if the display will include actual dissected babies, and testimonials from women who have suffered physical and psychological damage after undergoing this ‘ life sustaining ‘ gift from God ? Ault is a typical death loving, ghoulish Leftist…

  • Daniel Petry

    Darn Heather…if only your Mom had taken the opportunity to terminate the non-life that eventually grew into Heather Ault. Just think…if you were being born in this time period, your mom would also – and totally supported by the POS in the White House – have the capability to have a needle shoved in your brain just as you are trying to make it across the finish line into the “real world”. Such missed possibilities.

  • SGT Chemistry

    Orwell’s “1984” was only 30 years wrong.

  • Lou Bethel

    Liberalism is a mental disorder. The more THEY practice abortion, the better. But, being the racists they are, they only want babies of color aborted. Margaret Sanger was a stone cold racist of the old school. There’s an agenda. But the hispanic immigrants are going for this propaganda, so you’ll lose in the end. Learn spanish now.

  • Stoa

    Saw her picture….no contraceptives/abortion needed. Can’t imagine any self-respecting male being that angry at his member to introduce it to that.

  • PatMagroin69

    I think that crocodile dung thing should work as it would cause abstinence. This is beyond stupid. This is a celebration of contraception not abortion it sounds like from this article. Still stupid.

  • BolanHoffbauer

    It’s like we reside in an Oxford or Ivy League educated Nazi Germany.

  • OgieOgelthorpe

    No need for abortion back in ancient Egypt…the odor of crocodile crap and yeast infection would be more than enough to “kill the mood”.

  • Times up

    Blasphemous! That these people Serindepitously discover God just in time to erroronouisly accredit Him with creating abortion…..I hope to see them in Church Sunday.

  • Believer

    From the moment of conception, the child is a separate chromosonal entity with its own unique DNA pattern made of combining 23 of the mother’s chromozones with 23 of the father’s chromozones. That makes each child a PERSON from the very first instant it comes into being. Even if you are not a religious person, this scientific information shoud be enough to convince you that abortion is murder by another name. For those of us who are Christians, there should never have been any doubt. The Bible is clear on the topic of when life begins. In Jeremiah, God saiys that He knit us together in our mother’s womb and that he knew us before he created us. While I respect a person’s right to prevent conception, once that conception is complete, there is only one “choice” – to respect the new life God has created.

    • Smithsonin1

      Great post. It angers me when ‘women’s rights’ is used to empower the pro-choice movement, yet completely ignore the rights of the smaller woman in utero.

  • John Williams

    Sick. And to pretend that God approves of the taking of human life?! Blasphemy. Can’t tell him he’s going to hell–but I have a pretty good idea it won’t be smooth sailing when he’s called to Judgement.

  • Pearl

    so is crucifixion

  • Mancave001

    I’m moderate on abortion in that I don’t fit either the “pro-life” or “pro-choice” labels. I think life begins at conception, and that at a certain point, society’s right to preserve life outweighs your right to take it. But I also think that up until that point, it has to be a woman’s decision (in which case I would always urge her to choose life). As far as I’m concerned, anyone who doesn’t think abortion is taking a life (no matter what his/her stance on the issue ultimately) is not someone I listen to. Those people are radicals and ideologues, just like this artist.

    Speaking of which, this is so incredibly disgusting and twisted…I don’t know where to begin. Ugh…it makes me sick.

    • GoldenRudy

      By being a “moderate”, as you state, you have contributed to this. One cannot be “moderately” pregnant can one?

  • choomster

    Leftists know no bounds of their depravity and vile sickness.

  • Old Guy In Stanton

    To bad that U.S. feminists are so concerned with stuff like this, yet can’t be bothered to even comment on the outrages against women routinely and daily being committed by Islam.

    • Smithsonin1

      I often wonder about this. It’s absurd that the practice of Islam in the majority of the world is the absolute antithesis to feminism, yet, Islam beliefs go unquestioned in our State and Federally funded education system.

  • lazypadawan

    Was there a British fetus furnace on display too?

    Sick and evil.

  • Girtupyourloins

    The Canaanites, Celts, Myans felt the same way. Never forget, in a post Judeo/Christian, the weak will suffer. The weak include babys, children AND women.

    • rx

      and don’t forget homosexuals and old people.

      • Girtupyourloins

        I dont know about homosexuals; they seemed to fair pretty well as Roman emporers and temple prostitutes

  • Rex

    and AIDS is God’s Gift to Homosexuals …..Will that message soon be sponsored by taxpayer dollars at this Democrat institution of “Higher Learning”?

  • modd kenwood

    liberal progressive democrats are,quite simply,depraved

  • Evil is as evil does.

    America now celebrates “mocking the Lord”. This will not end well.

  • TheTruthIsNotPC

    Stupidity and poor taste share a common characteristic: they both know no bounds.

  • Maestrissimo

    Ghouls.

  • 1654american

    Progessives celebrate abortion not for women’s “reproductive freedom, but in order to naturally inhibit the irresponibe-slut-gene from being propogated. Same progressive scheme for supporting gay/3rd-gender marriage; end the gene pool.

  • Gary Ketterman

    Crocodile dung is not that bad when you consider people South of the border have been using an*l sex for the purpose of birth control for centuries. Ancient clay statues showing the act have been found in South America proving it.

  • tgcrawford

    As always, NO ONE wants to discuss the reality of MURDER. Where do you draw the line?

  • Stinky Man

    Abortion is murder. It really is that simple. You have free will to be good or evil. God will not help with your choice unless you ask.

  • Stinky Man

    Free will is a gift from God. Be very careful, it can get you into a lot of trouble in the long run…..

  • RagsOnYouSchwags

    the truly freakish can’t help but reveal themselves.

  • oilcanp

    Teaching the glory of death, hate and lies. Hitler lives,

  • JGTheMan

    Sick.

  • Stinky Man

    Funny I though life itself was a gift from God. I do not believe those that get rid of their child while it is safe in their womb can believe in any God. Maybe the Devil but really no God would want you to kill his Children.

  • neo_chimp

    That “abortion is a gift from God” poster looks like it came straight out of “They Live”.

  • doug brownn

    and the holocaust was just another gift to the Euro peoples too? THis is beyond sick – it is utter madness.

  • 1fromtexas

    there are some sicko sob.s in this world. i’m frequently dumbfounded at the garbage coming out of some of the “institutions of higher learning”….

  • MeezaThinkin

    May God forgive…

  • Terry Johnson

    You have got to be kidding!!!! Talk about calling white black and black white….George Orwell definitely had it right….how sick can some be….abortion is simply murdering children….

  • MKing

    I can’t think of anything more perverse than this.

  • blancojoe

    What horrible blasphemy. The foolishness of man never ends.

  • IChooseLife

    If individuals want to be pro-abortion, at least leave God out of your propaganda. This is a sin that grieves our Father so heavily and should therefore, grieve the hearts of those that love Him. In no way is this a gift, it is murder. But the most beautiful is that through repentance of those who have committed this sin, there is forgiveness. Praying for the hearts of these women, and discernment for the students who unfortunately, have to witness this callous and false representation of what abortion is.

    • Smithsonin1

      Pray, pray and keep on praying ….

    • Bob Mex

      “Pro-choice” is NOT necessarily “pro-abortion.” Meanwhile, “Pro-life” is more accurately called “anti-abortion,” as many who oppose abortion ALSO oppose many pro-life programs for the LIVING, eg, school lunches, at-risk child programs, coverage for mental health, well-baby care, etc etc.

  • NoLegacyAllowed

    I thought “they” didn’t believe in God…..

  • mrdon

    Sounds reasonable to me. If we want to further emulate the Egyptians we might reinstitute the “choice” of slavery. Even better, when an important person dies, let’s bury his entourage alive with him or her. 4000 years of a practice is justification for its continuation? Really?

  • Mark Kittering

    any pictures of a sharp shear entering the brain of a partially born “fetus” come full circle you cowards.

  • Jay

    Most genocidal maniacs are misguided and sick. This one is no exception.

  • Bartholemew Cawckenstein

    Given the statistics, half of you posting in this thread probably have aborted an unborn kid or two. I’ve been fucking for 10 years, I pull out every time, no kids, and I can sleep at night knowing I didn’t murder my unborn seen like you filthy irresponsible bastards, you’re spiritually destroyed if you’ve killed your child. Shout out to the real niggas out there for holding it down, this ones for you.

    • LeSellers

      You’re a credit to your, er, what-ever-you-represent.

      Mr. Magoo O’bama, will there ever be any Jobs?

    • blancojoe

      You mean there are “females” out there who actually like you?

  • bobalouski

    What a nutcase.

  • Gerald Smith

    This is almost as bad as the story about the hospital in the UK shoveling the bodies of dead babies into the furnace for heat so the hospital can remain “green.” Socialized medicine + green energy = insanity.

  • jkbeau1

    When you are a lousy artist you rely on the outlandish to gain attention. Case in point.

  • TheTruthIsNotPC

    I think I finally found something on which both sides in the infanticide (oops… “abortion”) debate can agree: All our mothers chose not to abort us, and for that we are thankful.

  • bgbs

    The joy is all smoke and mirrors. Women who abort experience nothing but mental pain and suffering after what they’ve done…oh and also have a 44% chance of getting breast cancer, and it is no surprise because we’ve been seeing increase in abortions and breast cancers at the same time….and it is a pretty detailed study.

    These hags who tell us to celebrate choice, are really telling us to celebrate death. What is a choice? by definition it is when somebody gets to pick life and death. The feminists simply chose death disguised as “choice”. They are engaged in a very risky life style of death. Same goes for every other promiscuous life style. To try to kill their God given conscience they run with theses celebratory campaigns of lie under the false flag of rainbow.

  • Owen44

    And hosptials can stay green by incinerating the remains for heat! It’s a win-win for the ghoulish crowd.

  • Kevin Williams

    To bad all of the so-called artist parents didn’t make the other choice and killed them in the belly so we don’t have to hear their stupid crap.

  • jkbeau1

    A pig oinked to day. Why is this news?

  • Defiant

    First of all, they seem consistently confuse and intermix birth control with abortion. Two different things, folks.

  • starzzguitar

    This is good, out there in the open. Kind of like the Holocaust museum.

  • bgbs

    On the bright side, conservative and God fearing people do not abort their kids.

    • Azrael

      You would be amazed to discover what your kids and neighbours do behind your back.

  • Killing Babies is Fun

    Contact the folks who approve and run this for the Univ. of Michigan and ask them WHEN will there be a Celebration of Birth and Women Reproducing exhibit friendly to the pro-life point of view? Dr. Timothy Johnson, Chair, Ob/GYN Dept. [email protected], Edward Goldman, Reproductive Rights Program Director [email protected], and Kathleen Canning, Women’s Studies Dept. Chair [email protected]

    • Bob Mex

      IMO ALL art is a “celebration of birth,” as it celebrates life, and the human experience, both positive and negative.

  • Sam Oakin

    Abortion is murder. But the silver lining can be found when one considers who it is that is availing themselves of this “gift”. It’s the next best thing to open season on Democrats.

  • Howard M Ccomber

    So, this is what the president meant by funding the arts qith 200 million of our tax dollars. Can I get a refund?

  • Kerr

    4,000 murders each day, every day

  • FreeYourMind

    To those who had an abortion and their conscience is bothering them: there is forgiveness when you repent ( change your mind and admit it was wrong) , confess it to God and receive forgiveness. Searing your mind to not feel guilt is a dangerous way to go in life

  • longwayhome

    What, not one poster with a bloody coat hanger?

  • Jay

    Genocidal maniacs are misguided and sick. This one is no exception.

  • Defiant

    If Obamacare MUST provide for birth control…let’s just agree to pay for crocodile dung. Let the Libs stuff their cracks with that.

  • MGBSE

    …no…LIFE…is a gift from God…abortion is man/woman made…and there is a HUGE difference between abortion – destruction of life – and conception – creation of life…prevent conception all you want…just don’t murder the innocent.

    • Endoxa52

      Stop making sense.

    • John D. Wright

      I didn’t need God’s help to get pregnant. My wife and I did that all on our own. My daughter is gorgeous and we only have ourselves to thank.

      • MGBSE

        …correct…biology 101…your sperm…your wife’s egg…God’s soul…voila…your gorgeous daughter…a precious gift from God.

        • John D. Wright

          Nope. No God.

          • MGBSE

            …but you are cool with global warming, evolution & the big bang theory?

  • jayhdavis

    To a liberal, women are incapable of controlling their sex drives and to stupid to use contraceptives.

    • Bob Mex

      Many in the anti-abortion camp are ALSO against all forms of contraception; to me, this is absurd. You?

  • potusWORTHLESS

    Too bad the pukes responsible for this heinous display, were not aborted!
    You people need to be aborted…LOL!

  • Amarillobymorning

    One day each of us will have to stand before God and give account. Glad I’m not one of these people touting the murder of innocents. Yeah, I know all the libs are out there right now saying, “Bring it on.” …. That’s what you say now….

    • John D. Wright

      There is no god. Sorry to break it to you.

      • Amarillobymorning

        You better hope you’re right.

        • John D. Wright

          What if you’ve picked the wrong god? You’d better hope you’re right.

          • Killing Babies is Fun

            There is only one God, numbskull.

          • John D. Wright

            One Christian god

          • Amarillobymorning

            No problem there. I’m 100% confident on that point. You know most people live their lives as if there was a god anyway. They are moral people and live their lives as such. If I as a Christian live my life the way I probably would have anyway and believe in God only to find out when I die (or don’t find out – just ppfft – gone) that I’m wrong, what have I lost? I would have lived that way anyhow. But if I live my life the same way rejecting God only to find out at death that I was wrong, what then? (Pascal) I believe I’ll stick with my side on that wager.

          • John D. Wright

            I’m a good and moral person. I believe in the golden rule, I also try to live by what Jesus taught, as I believe he was a good and moral person. I don’t believe that he was the son of God, but rather a good man. If you believe in a God that would punish that, then I’m sorry for you.

          • Amarillobymorning

            It doesn’t matter whether I believe or not, and it really doesn’t even matter whether your believe it or not (sorry to break it to you). What matters it what God thinks about it, and he has not been unclear. Being a Christian is not about following a bunch of rules. Being a Christian is about forgiveness. I assure that if it was about following the rules, I’d be in Big, Big trouble. If I could follow the rules, I wouldn’t need the forgiveness. God made a way when we couldn’t make a way for ourselves. That’s what Christianity is about.

          • John D. Wright

            Sounds like we’re saying the same thing.

          • Amarillobymorning

            If you mean in how we live our lives, probably, but there is the forgiveness part, and the part about acknowledging and getting to know God.

          • John D. Wright

            So you’re saying God is so vain that he’s willing to punish me for eternity in hell just because he hasn’t presented me with valid evidence of his existence?

          • keepyoureyespeeled

            What would you consider valid evidence? And if you got it, then what?

          • Amarillobymorning

            No, I’m saying that God made a way for you to avoid hell. Whether or not you are intelligent enough to take the opportunity given is up to you.

          • Terry Johnson

            John-have you ever told even one lie? if you have…you are a liar…have you ever taken something that wasn’t yours? even once? you are a thief….ever looked at a woman with the idea of lust?…you are lustful…so with just these three examples you are a “lustful, lying thief”… I would not call you a “good and moral person”…

          • John D. Wright

            LOL! Okay. (I’m laughing at you, BTW)

          • keepyoureyespeeled

            Jesus taught that He was God. So, what are you saying? You’re making Him out to be a liar or crazy…and you are cherrypicking certain teachings from a liar or crazy person. I find that fascinating.

  • Grendel007

    Did she actually find the phrase “reclaim reproductive rights” in any of these ancient texts? Or was it more like a license for guys to bang their slaves and servants with impunity? funny how the women’s movement is so dedicated to murdering the innocent and making themselves sex tools once again

  • EllenO

    And murder is the ultimate gift. It speeds you to your maker sooner.

    Truly America has become insane.

    Next, Orwell’s Freedom is Slavery.

    • GoldenRudy

      Your first sentence sounds like “Joe Carroll” of the TV show “The Following”. Maybe you are onto something. Maybe the show is not just silly fiction after all. And the storyline does emanate from academia. Scary.

  • J

    Nothing like celebrating human sacrifices.

  • dv Vaughn

    Obviously they are satan worshipers!

    • John D. Wright

      Obviously!!

  • KingKaos

    She Ault to get that fugly ass face fixed AND fumagate her vag whiles shes at it! Stank Ho! Just becasue you are weird and ugly looking, dont hate on us beutiful people that “go forth and populate” the Earth with our beutiful babies!!! Man, the only reason abortion would be OK with me is if we had time machines also. That way when Ms. Ault was on her back taking it from big daddy Anon, we could have made a conscience choice on aborting her “little mistake” prior to becoming the piece of shit she is.
    The end.
    See now that I put “the end” on the end of my little statement, it makes it a short story and a very creative and buetiful artsy fartsy thing! Isnt that fumagatingly beutiful!?!?! I ask THEE, tis it NOT?

  • Endoxa52

    Every morning I wake up and thank God that I was not aborted and then thank Him that I am not a liberal.

  • mike smith

    Odd, I don’t know any real artist who thinks killing is a gift from God. We might be seeing a true case of demonic possession here.

  • unknown

    Does the exhibit cover how other species kill their unwanted babies?

  • joethefumer

    Colleges and Universities are basically run by children with many years of “higher education”. They have their own moral concepts, devoid of common sense, with only PC as their guiding light. They do not fear God but think that God is their enemy.

  • nomore Unwanted breeding

    unwanted pregnancies decrease as women become empowered and educated. lets educate our sisters around the globe.

    • Lawrence D. Wood

      It also comes with just saying “no”.

  • AlltheWay

    Winner of best school for reverse racism is …. Univ of Michigan! Once again the U shows its true lib roots. Baby killers.

  • Lawrence D. Wood

    LIberals. Sick puppies.
    There is no excuse in this day and age for an unwanted pregnancy. Rape and incest are always used as the justification for the wholesale slaughter of the unborn. The real reason is two fold: 1) money. PPH makes a lot of money killing; 2) genocide of the black American, which was a goal of Margaret Sanger, the Dem icon of infanticide.
    The first reason is why PPH does not ever report the rape of 12 and 13 year old girls by older men–and it is 22-40+ statistically that use them as sex toys. No justice is ever served and the self-worth of the girl suffers egregiously.
    Gee, guys, all the libs want are the kids–to use as sex toys. No harm according to homosexual psychologists, and NAMBLA, right?
    Anyone who has ever lived with someone who has been abused sexually or physically knows that PTSD is not just an after effect of combat. The impact is life long.
    The artist needs to be aborted.
    After all, using their logic, if a baby can be killed inside, and now they are calling for death of the baby outside the womb, what does a few years make? Murder may be just a “delayed” abortion.

  • WillVMI68

    Where are the pictures of the aborted baby parts? No awards for those?

  • Em

    I think she means children are a gift from god, so therefore adoption! I might have praised if people like her didn’t exist or procreate, but I am not as perfect and as forgiving as God.

  • chiliboots

    And your father is Satan.

  • dabba

    “4000 Years for Choice is an exhibition of posters about the
    age-old practices of abortion and contraception as a means to reclaim
    reproductive freedom as a deeply personal and life-sustaining act
    existing throughout all of human history,”

    Only in the sick and twisted mind of a liberal can killing an unborn baby be described as reclaiming reproductive freedom and life-sustaining. This is one sick puppy.

  • This “gift” is no doubt from this artist’s god. They’ll have eternity to bond – that’s not a good thing…

  • elmofuddleputt

    My dog drops piles of art every bit as good as “artist”. Hideous.

  • BK Martin

    No you insufferable liberal 1d10t abortion is NOT a gift from God, it is man destroying a gift from God…

  • Bruce

    So is suicide there, Picasso…..please demonstrate for us all.

  • deerjerkydave

    Human sacrifice to the god of convenience.

  • longwayhome

    “The images were created by Heather Ault, whom a University of Michigan webpage says is ‘a visual artist, pro-choice activist, and independent scholar creating artwork to shift conversations about reproductive rights and justice.’”

    In other words, a skank.

    • Bruce

      Someone who has made their whole life out of celebrating that people can have babies sucked and scraped from their “inconvenienced” wombs.

  • Rory Calhoun

    Look. I may not agree on the with most of you people here when it comes to abortion, but I have never thought that abortion is a gift from God. Who thinks like that? How is sucking and scraping a fetus out of a woman’s vagina, a gift from God. This really makes the Christian stance seem more sane. The gift from “God” may be the knowledge that was given to pharmaceutical companies to develop birth control.

    • Bruce

      mentally retarded liberals think that…thats who.

      • Rory Calhoun

        Come on. Do not disrespect retarded people like that. Ha. Just kidding. This kid is not retarded because she says this. There is something else that is going on. Maybe she is an attention wh0re and impregnated by an attention wh0re monger and needs a gift from God.

  • Tin Man

    And less is more, and a tax isn’t a tax, and employment is job lock. Welcome to Obamaville, a socialist community of liars.

  • jimduhbear

    I think they should stick with the Egyptian concoction: Prescription Number 21. “It was called Recipe Not To Become Pregnant and called for crocodile feces, mixed with fermented dough, and placed in the vagina.”

    A gift from Hell is more appropriate.

  • portle44

    Yes Killing is life affirming.Hate is love.Ignorance is wisdom.Since the universities became a gigantic Room 101 the bed wetting students they service can be convinced of anything.

  • 1mikejanz1

    Depends on who your god is!

  • djjjp

    this country is soooo broken..

  • Von_Zolta

    SICK CULTURES EVENTUALLY DISINTEGRATE – QUICKLY!

  • Jamal

    Murder is a gift from God?? I suppose if you’re narcissistic, self-absorbed and view yourself as ‘god’, then perhaps you might construe (through the absence of reason) that murdering someone else for your convenience is a gift from you to yourself. I suppose its easy to murder someone who cannot fight back. Bottom-line though: if murdering an innocent baby is not wrong, then nothing is wrong – nothing.

  • zagnut64

    College campuses all across the country are filled with this type of human debris. Can’t get famous for having real talent, so do the next best thing, create controversy. And for her next act she will come out of the closet, scream about climate change and hopefully set herself on fire.

  • kingdad

    I bet there Mothers thought giving Birth to them was a Gift from God.
    Too bad they can’t go back and change that decision.
    It’s always the living that want to kill the weak, unborn, elderly so long as someone else does the real dirty work for them.

  • MacDaddio

    This kind of stuff being “taught” is the reason many of our college students (and many others) cannot name a single US Senator from any state. They couldn’t pass a civics test if their lives depended on it .. but they sure know all about abortion, gay and transgender rights, the Kardashians, and all the other really important stuff.

  • JJJ

    Contraception/Abortion….let’s call it what it is for once. The “right to choose” is targeted, with some exception, at a demographic that chooses preventing or ending a life (50million plus since Roe) if it means they can freely have sex and orgasms without consequences. Ahhh, the mythical unicorn of life without consequences life….

    I fully understand when the life of the mother is endangered (2.8%) or pregnancy as the result of rape (1%) or other violence but lets call it what the majority of it is….around 96% do it because they don’t want a baby.

    Top three reasons given for having an abortion?

    Unready for responsibility

    Can’t afford baby now

    Concern about how having a baby would change her life.

    Perhaps personal responsibility should become a part of the narrative?…

    • Bob Mex

      I believe that rooted in the whole rubric of “having sex and orgasms without consequences” is rooted in an extremely prudish, priggish and parochial (the 3 p’s of “shame’) attitude toward sexuality, that sex is somehow still stigmatized as “dirty,” and that all must refrain from this “dirty act” except to procreate.
      Guess what, people..we are sexual beings! Want to bring God into it? Great! God made us sexual! And, no, we do NOT need more unwanted children, born to unwed teens, doomed to lives of neglect and, demographics prove, usually, poverty and lack of opportunity.

      • JJJ

        Respect your belief but if you are implying I am a prude, you are incorrect. Sex and orgasms are great. Nothing dirty about it.

        As for God being brought into the discussion…yes, God made us all sexual beings. He did tell us to be reckless, irresponsible beings that willy nilly void a life (which I believe the taking of which He considers his turf alone) because they choose an “if it feels good do it” entitlement attitude about life mistaking privileges with rights.

        We do not need more unwanted or under cared for children. You are right. The responsible fix? Abstinence is a good start and solves the problem. To bring God back into it…He made us sexual beings but he did not say do whatever the urge dictates…..resist temptation, discipline, live by a code, etc….not screw anything that moves because you are a “sexual being”….there are consequences.

        And if you are so open to bringing God into the discussion, then no sex until marriage, no adultery, no coveting…and the list goes on….I love sex, I love orgasms, I am married with two amazing kids and cannot even fathom abortion given how perfect my kids are…they are wickedly hard work, and worth every drop of sweat…..both in creation and since………..

  • SixtusVIth

    When will we learn the lesson? Coexistence with those who reject God’s law is IMPOSSIBLE. We cannot live with them – we can only crush them. Wise up and read about Elijah and the false prophets, 1st Kings 18. No peace with the Devil or his servants.

  • Reverend Right

    And his prophet is Kermit Gosnell.

  • Orpheus75

    Ezekiel 16:48
    As
    surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, your sister Sodom and
    her daughters never did what you and your daughters have done.

    Matthew 11:22
    But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you.

    Matthew 11:24
    But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.”

    I believe it too.

  • Bob Mex

    As pro-choice as I am, I am NOT for the glorification of the procedure. Still, must admit to being mildly amused to learn that abortion practices date back to ancient times. It is hardly anything new.

    • Reverend Right

      yes, murder is not new.

  • Tsimsum

    If it keeps retarded religious right wing repbulicans from being born… It’s a beautiful thing.

    • longwayhome

      Religious republicans aren’t the ones killing their own babies, blacks and liberals are. So, while abortion is disgusting, at least it’s the children of your type being “terminated”.

  • pugilist66

    Just another sicko glorifying sicko behavior. Since this chick is mentally retarded, she doesn’t realize how truly demented her position is.

  • distillerman

    The continuing demise of this republic. We are witnessing the all out assault on our culture, traditions, and values of this “once great” land.

  • rosieo

    those darn inconvenient babies! where do they all come from?
    there is no logical reason to kill an innocent baby for the sole selfish reason its inconvenient no matter how anxious you intolerant to life are.

  • rjsciolino

    “Zygotes”. Apparently the term “fetus” has acquired a little too much humanity for their branding and marketing of destroying human beings. Call “it” whatever you wish, “it’s human and more females have been killed in the womb than fully developed females have by carrying and nurturing them. I’m sorry…”zygotes”….not “females”. Guess I need a few more years of indoctrination.

  • Thomas Jones

    Does this institution of higher education have any understanding of today’s vocabulary words? They are “euphemism” and “murder”.

  • Allen West

    Let’s see. Taking life from the womb is life sustaining. Right. Taking life from the womb is a gift from God is as dumb as any liberal thought has been. But there has never been a lack of idiocy from the left

  • BenderIsGreat

    I declare a fatwa on her. All Christians are to forgive this soulless godless whore of satan and turn the other cheek at once.

  • disqus1974

    Seems to me that the ancient examples cited in the exhibit are forms of contraception and not abortion per se (except the silphium plant possibly) so it seems there’s some stretching of the truth for the sake of an agenda. Also, the idea that 46 million woman can’t be wrong is bad logic – there were a lot of Nazis too but that didn’t make them right. Morality doesn’t have its grounding in popularity. Attempts have been made to ground it human flourishing, etc. but they fall flat: the only good grounding is in God. Death of innocents at human hands is not celebrated by God no matter if you call it a “gift” or not: it’s quite simply not.

  • joefriday

    no good will come of this .

  • ralphie44

    welcome to the jew world order

  • AmberQuest

    Do people even think WHY God viewed all of mankind as totally corrupt in the NOAH saga when she can claim, what 46 million woman do every year can’t be immoral?

  • knighttemplar01

    Sanger would be proud, over 50 million abortions since Roe v Wade and a great number of them were (are) partial birth(means this was a viable human being, a true innocent snuffed out at the very beginning of life. Abortion, is an abomination before God and creation. It is in the truth cold blooded murder; but not to NOW, feminists, progressive liberals or democrats. And by making tax payers support abortions, we become accomplices in these crimes.

  • Ellen

    It’s a shame she wasn’t blessed with that “gift from God” by her mother……..

  • ChoirLoft

    Abortion is legalized genocide – not a gift from God. Nearly 55% of aborted children are black with nearly another 25% hispanic. 20% or less are other groups including white. Apart from being an act of overt murder for the sake of convenience, the legalization allows American society to ‘thin the herd’ of minorities.
    ***
    According to the Bible, the pagan people of ancient Palestine sacrificed their children to the god Molech. Look it up. God hated that ceremony and punished everyone involved in it. If the reader thinks America will escape divine judgment for 55 million dead babies, he or she is dreaming.
    ***
    IF GOD DOES NOT JUDGE AMERICA, HE WILL HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO SODOM AND GOMORRAH.
    and that’s just me, hollering from the choir loft…

  • Sir_Loinsteak

    That’s not a gift from God, elimination of liberal thought would qualify, though.

  • Ellen

    Did she mention that black babies are aborted about 3x more than white babies? How about that hispanic babies are a close second to black babies? And bear in mind that white women still outnumber hispanics and blacks by percent. So who is being done the disservice here? Hmmmmmm…..I wonder if the “artist” can put those pieces together? Perhaps she’s been sniffing the art supplies a bit too much!

    • ChoirLoft

      Abortion is legalized genocide. Apparently Ms. Hughbanks is a closet NAZI.

  • Ghostrider127

    Benjamin Franklin once quipped that “beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.” Sometimes I think liberals are proof that God loves us and wants us to have something to laugh at!”

    • JJJ

      Didn’t Franklin have like 80 illegitimate kids? Ripley’s or something…..

  • trevanian

    My thing about abortion isn’t religious per say. My body, my choice argument is BS if that’s thats the case then why do we have child support, it’s your body remember? We were told how man years ago that abortion would help povety, a lie since its hasn’t made a dent in poverty. I wish they would just admit that abortion is a way of saying i’m not responsible enough to raise a child, but somehow I can drive a car and hold a job and proclaim my womans right? It’s hypocritical, thats my beef I guess.

    • JJJ

      Nice post.

    • Morning Again

      Not just hypocritical, it is entirely contrary to what “feminism” is supposed to be about. Instead of making women more powerful, this makes them weak. I cannot think of weaker statements than, “it’s my body, my baby, you pay for it” and, “it’s my body, but you can subsidize the abortion.” Anyone who would actually believe abortion is a gift from God is disturbed. The very idea that murder is a gift is sickening.

      • JJJ

        50 million plus abortions, lives, since Roe went into effect……

  • albert321

    Confirming the modern Nazi is a feminist in hiding!

  • Maud_StJames

    That is so revolting! Life is a gift from God. Abortion is a convenience for the stupid.

  • Pat McBride

    “The twisted mind of a Liberal”.
    Now that would be a life sustaining exhibit.

  • Sud1

    And up is down and white is black and Obama is the smartest guy in the room. Tell me another, all you progressives out there, you’re hilarious

    • markkozikowski

      A. Gore invented the Internet, and is Saving us from our own extinction with his carbon credits.

  • Alex

    It is not “reproductive freedom” it is infanticide. I would not like to think of how to explain to God how I thought that killing innocent life is His “gift” to us.You have to be pretty twisted to believe that.

    • John D. Wright

      How does God explain his infanticide?

      • Alex

        God does not have to explain anything. He is the Creator and we the creation. As he told Job ” where were you when I set the Foundations of the World”.

        • John D. Wright

          Do as I say not as I do. Yeah, that’s the guy I’m going to worship.

          • Alex

            That is your choice John.

          • tsoho

            Gravity can be cruel.

            I don’t think I want to believe in that either.

          • John D. Wright

            There’s evidence that gravity exists.

          • keepyoureyespeeled

            And there is evidence for God. It may not be evidence “you” like…but it is still evidence none the less.

      • Kylabee

        It’s not his infanticide. It’s Satan’s. This world is allowed to be Satan’s playground so that those of us who use our free will to choose to follow the precepts left for us by God and found in the Bible will be found worthy via His Son. Satan is thus called by God “The prince of this world”. We are in this world but we are NOT OF this world. All will be sorted individually on Judgement Day, when “every knee will bow and acknowledge Jesus as the Son of the one true God. and we will be judged for murdering those innocents that so trustingly nestled in their mother’s womb.

        • John D. Wright

          Or it’s all a giant fairy tale.

          • keepyoureyespeeled

            Or it’s not. It is pretty easy to make assertions.

  • tsoho

    So who’s going to set up a display for “4000 Years of Slavery”

    If it was good for the Egyptians, it must be good for us!!!

    • Roldan Fz

      Slavery, rape, war all good things 4,000 years woohoo. Hehe

  • ripeforchange

    I propose that we have a 2nd amendment celebration at the Women’s studies building. “Guns are also a life sustaining act as they protect us from the deranged people who think murder is sustaining.

    • markkozikowski

      Guns also provide life sustaining nutrition. That is a double win!

  • Youdon’tmeanjack

    She’s Satan’s favorite kind of messenger.

    • markkozikowski

      Yep, she would be seen just to the left of Obama

  • ripeforchange

    How you ever seen the hags that hang out at the women’s study buildings? They usually don’t need to worry about birth control!

  • sydbloom

    It certainly is a gift when the spawn of the leftists Stalinists in this nation are being sucked out and discarded like that fecal fetus tissue should be.

  • sydbloom

    Here is my poster… Democrat leftist abortion is a civic duty for the betterment of all human kind.

  • jcd0101

    Yea RIGHT

    you know at some point God in heaven will judge you..
    And when that happens – i wouldnt want to be in your shoes..

    If you think that the GOD of LIGHTS (JESUS the CHRIST) who is the author of LIFE
    approves of you killing babies and then burning them in ovens..

    YOUR NUTS..

  • davemarney

    When your freedom is defined as the ability to destroy another person’s freedom, then you are a tyrant.

    • Roldan Fz

      Murder shouldn’t be a freedom. 😉

  • Roldan Fz

    Everybody blames the liberals for abortion. What about the republicans, what have they done to stop it? They pretend to be pro-life, but they never do anything. At one time they had the house, the senate, and the presidency and what did they do? Nothing and it continues.

  • Captain Reynault

    By her logic so is “death with dignity” and other suicide decisions. And, of course, this ignores the input of the separate human life within the womb.
    “If they would rather die,” said Scrooge, “they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.”
    Christ help them, and those who put on this “Holocaust exhibit.”

  • Vicki

    “Gift”.. “Test”… Why argue semantics?

  • bobo45

    I agree. The mass murder of future welfare recipients IS a gift from God to taxpayers.

  • Rob

    What??????
    along with murder, bestiality, and homosexuality???

  • Wally Wanks

    Propaganda from fools that love death. Who in their right mind would think killing babies is wirth an art exhibition? The NWO. does…ruin families,breakdown morality and cause chaos and war…..we are stupid for allowing the Fed, IMF and World bank to exist…they are part of an evil empire that will kill us given a chance! They wont be happy until we are all their slaves…debt is their chains and drug for the masses…

  • SaneSage

    Liberalisnm is a curse from God.

  • Kylabee

    WIll this exhibit also highlight how breast cancer risk sharply increases with abortion? with two abortions, it’s up to 85%. Anyone who could kill their own baby (containing HALF their DNA, never to occur again) for convenience has, by definition, a HUGE selfish side. Perhaps appealing to their OWN fear of death by breast cancer, they would consider giving birth, even if only to save their own hides. Maybe the exhibit will also have a sidebar about DNA and how it’s determined at the moment of conception — a unique individual, never existing before and never to be repeated.

    • GFM2014

      I think it’s called “payback.”

  • doriangrey11

    Heather is advocating not just murder, but the most reprehensible form of murder, infanticide. The day will come when God himself informs poor little Heather of what his opinion on abortion is, and poor little Heather isn’t going to like what he tells her.

    What to file this one under: epic stupidity, or pure evil.

  • pixie1942

    abortion the redefined word of MURDER

  • doctorzombe

    This, but they can’t name the vice-president or point out Canada on map.

    • GFM2014

      Probably because the vice-president is the lamest, most invisible and useless one we’ve had since Hubert Humphrey – and Canada is just another crummy country with socialized medicine.

      • doctorzombe

        Sure. So let’s say they can’t point out the Us on a map and they don’t know their mother’s maiden name.

  • longwayhome

    Check out Heather Ault’s facebook page. That skank is obsessed with killing babies. It’s like she has orgasms just thinking about it.

  • Ronaldus_Maximus

    Quick search of google images explains it all…. She is a bitter, cat owning, urine reeking lez.

  • RBC

    One thing is obvious and everyone agrees that the fetus has a complete set of chromosomes which and will almost always developed into a fully functional person if not interfered with.

  • Alphonsus_Jr

    Straight from the bowels of deepest Hell.

  • kjane

    Wow – godless people claiming God is blessing their vile display of godlessness.

    It’s getting pretty dark…

  • theyellowbear

    I would suggest that abortion is a gift from the Father of Lies…

  • Google pics of babies with their necks cut, dumped into metal pans and say it is a good thing. I am an artist and I am planning a different sort of series that force people to look at the results of their cavalier attitudes on life. I am so sick of the art community being dominated by these evil, so-called progressive murderers.

  • Jack

    Too bad God didn’t hand out more “gifts” to the mommies of the “artists”….

  • Rationalista2

    How blasphemous…to say that the God of life is really the god of death…

    Part of the Judgment should include the pro-abortionist seeing the aborted baby on the lap of the God who’s existence they denied, as they are yanked away into an inconceivable eternal Hell…

  • Bunzy

    So someone who doesn’t believe in God is claiming that God gave us a gift that is antithetical to who God is…

    Well then.

  • slim whitman

    “Abortion is a gift from God,” says the un-gifted recipient

  • njguy53

    People are out of their minds.

  • Richard

    As a grandson of Holocaust survivors when you Christians have the audacity to compare reproductive rights to the Holocaust myself and the vast majority of Jews would love to just put our hands around your throats and just squeeze…just squeeze. You are a malignancy.

    • longwayhome

      So there’s a difference between a gassed Jew and a baby with a scapel shoved into it’s head? What’s the difference? They both were murdered.

      • Richard

        The difference is that a fetus is not a viable human being. You seriously need to have some sense slapped into your thick skull.

        • longwayhome

          A fetus has a heartbeat 16 days after conception. That means it’s ALIVE at that point. Screw you and your ‘viable human being” crap.

          • Richard

            One day you will spout your nazi garbage to someone’s face instead of the cowardice of online and you will get what is coming to you.

          • Murdering infants is a nazi thing. I would be more than happy to explain to you in person.

          • Richard

            Murdering Jews is a nazi thing. Abortion is a human right. BTW infants are not fetuses.

          • Good thing your parents did not think as you do, I guess. God bless you.

    • Truth be told

      336 million abortions in China the last 40 years alone, so yeah unless you’re a pinhead I would say the holocaust on the unborn child is just as terrible.

      Also, you wanting to kill someone for their voice shows your true heart. You need to evaluate your heart, true followers of Jesus are not the problem.

      • Richard

        Um yes “followers of Jesus” are the problem. Not only were so many of my family members murdered by christians but look at the state of this country today because of christians like Bush. You have a lot of blood on your hands. You better hope there is no G-D.

        • Truth be told

          You’re talking about Roman Catholics which ARE NOT Christian, and yes they did totally betray and are betraying the Jewish people today. And if you think that the Bush family (part of the skull and bones society) is representative of true christianity, then you are just proving your ignorance.

          • Richard

            Once again the ignorance you spew warrants you being slapped in the face repeatedly. I am not joking. The vast majority of nazis were lutheran. The atrocities of the rcc against MY PEOPLE are just part of it.

            Your PATHETIC nazi propaganda will not change that no matter how much you kick and scream.

          • Smithsonin1

            You’re going to be fighting a lonely fight if you make the Roman Church your enemy as well.

    • mycotype

      Assuming this guy is really Jewish, his rant proves Jews have at least one idiot in their midst. Much the same as Americans have the equivalent (libs) among our kind.

      • Richard

        In a 1980 NBC poll, 89 percent of Jews responded that the decision to have an abortion should be the woman’s alone. Think that figure is any lower? Abortion is a human right. The fetus does not have a functioning brain. You may go back to your klan meeting.

  • parabellum

    Just the people who would have us believe we are evolving, then they contradict that whole agenda with this “4000 year-old” bit of savagery.

  • johnleehooker

    ““4000 Years for Choice”
    except not for me and my health care plan, doc…you absolutely have to watch these people in gob smacked wonder at the idiocy

  • DocRambo

    A wise mentor once said: NO MORALS, NO ETHICS, NO PRINCIPLES; in describing our liberal brothers and sisters. Self control and personal responsibility are for the little people.

  • xstratusx

    Government out of my uterus!! Except for free birth control.

  • truth hurts

    you have know idea what the bible says…it is not a gift from god its an obomination…how these demonic goblins sleep at night is beyond me…liars liars liars they will burn for there actions

    • pesky_facts

      They sleep well at night BECAUSE they are demonic goblins.

  • robbjack

    All i can say is UGH!

  • Dudeman888

    I amazes me how not wanting to kill unborn babies is such an evil thing to some people.

  • Dougal

    Yes, and murder is a friendly way to say “hello.”

  • Jim1937

    Funny thing that all these supporters of baby killing had mothers who did not have abortions.

  • AsleepNoMore

    Isaiah 5:20 (KJV)

    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

  • azhermit

    Deja vu… 4000 + years of worshiping the god Baal and Asherah… I wonder how the story will end this time?

    • matt

      I think we know hehe. God is not mocked.

  • pesky_facts

    And these same feminists who scream, “Govt out of my uterus!” … are the same ones who want Obamacare INTO every other aspect of their lives and health.

  • Bob A

    Murdering unborn humans is a gift from God????? This comes from satan not God.

  • Jack

    pro-choice = pro-abortion

    • pesky_facts

      … and anti-life.

  • 1stAfterburner

    Sin is Sin red is red, no matter what you call it, to extinguish the completed potential of the architecture of an identity, can it be anything but sin?
    However, as a Christian I am conflicted, when I raise the following issue I am usually dismissed as being insincere and diversionary.
    Do aborted souls inherit heaven automatically? If they do, then bearing in mind the odds of spiritual destruction that Jesus spoke of in Matthew 7:13-14 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.” Abortion would be compassion if keeping the odds of salvation in mind. I cannot fathom anything more horrible for a soul than to be separated from hope and the source of all life for eternity. Does that excuse abortion? No, the intentional destruction of completed genetic potential when sperm and egg meet must be sin, but that does not answer this perplexing dilemma. if you take the bible literally, this enigma has got to ricochet over and over in your mind. If there are any fundamental Christians that think they have an answer for this I would appreciate your comments.

    • Truth be told

      “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.”

    • geenee

      I have wondered that same question many times and just cannot come to a conclusion either (I am a evangelical, fundamental Christian)…I shudder when I hear women console themselves post-abortion by saying, “I know I will see my baby in heaven”…I just don’t know if that is true…BUT I do know that GOD is merciful and just and loving so we just have to trust Him with the things we can’t understand and the questions we can’t answer (His ways are so much higher than ours)….all I truly know is that abortion is abhorrent to GOD (as is the taking of any and all innocent life) and we must pray for those who are so deceived to think it is not…Blessings to you!

  • Jack

    My guess is that if we got a look t the “artists”….none will ever have a need for birth control (thankfully).

    • longwayhome

      You can get a look at Heather Ault. Just put in her name on facebook. She’s the first one that comes up. And looking at her posts, all she appears to care about is killing babies.
      But yeah, she DOES kinda look like a rug muncher.

  • Wally

    Hey, the Nazis believed in the same thing.

  • pesky_facts

    Communist Goals (1963) … (from Congressional Records)

    #22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

    #23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

  • day_in_the_sun

    Conservatives, whose lies have left over 4,000 families with graves to decorate this Memorial Day, don’t get it. The reason Ronald Reagan legalized abortions in California was to stem the deaths of women from illegal abortions.

    This was when good Christian people had girls expelled from school for being pregnant. They didn’t want their virgin daughters corrupted by unchaste woman. Christians made becoming pregnant so horrible girls sought illegal abortions. When, have Christians valued life?

    Christians murder millions in Europe and they murdered Native Americans who wouldn’t convert to Christianity. A few dead women from abortion was nothing to these Christians.

    If abortion is outlawed the daughters of wealthy conservatives will simple take vacations. There is so much information on the Net women will find solutions because they always have.

    Abortion laws are like gun control laws.

    • John Robin

      You sound insane.

      • day_in_the_sun

        In the echo chamber of conservative insanity sanity seems insane. Logic tells us being pro life would entail being against needless wars and capital punishment.

        Logic tells us if their were abortions before abortion was legal there would be abortions after abortion was made illegal. Saline solution isn’t hard to come by. Neither is tubing.

        • matt

          Stay in your dreamworld, fool.

          • day_in_the_sun

            Conservatives argue gun control won’t remove guns. They are right. History shows, with the aid of the Net and cheap flights to Mexico, no law will end abortions.

          • packstevewood

            Still waiting for your coherent argument.

          • rusty shackleford

            funny…Im still waiting for your coherent argument…hows that proof coming?

          • packstevewood

            Speaking of gun control, how about that liberal Leeland Yee just arrested for illegal arms bust.

        • packstevewood

          Oxymoron = you and logic.

          • day_in_the_sun

            It’s you, not making an adult or coherent argument.

          • packstevewood

            Look in the mirror when you say that.

          • rusty shackleford

            I made my statement….abortions by blacks cut down on future crime and welfare rolls….I was quite clear…..now tell me how I am wrong….dont worry …me and my statistics will wait for your reply

          • rusty shackleford

            interesting that a supposed christian is preaching to someone about logic…thats rich

  • Lucy Lastik

    Golly, gee willikerz! If the school lets them put them, they must be true!

    Glad they are teaching the students the fine art of critical thinking…..or not.

  • rusty shackleford

    well you must agree that if 75% of abortions are had by black people…then it IS truly a gift from god…..can you imagine if all those black fetuses were allowed to spawn and turn “pro”?….no thanks, Ive had enough yard tools stolen, and my tax burden is heavy enough

    • pesky_facts

      Flagged … (moron).

      • rusty shackleford

        you convinced me….
        I think this would be a wonderful opportunity to pause for a moment and give thanks for the many great contributions of the Black community and their culture to our society. Their peaceful and generous nature make them ideal neighbors, lending testimony to their exceptional family values and parenting skills unrivaled by any other culture.
        Their commitment to academic excellence enriches our schools and serves as an example to all who hope to achieve prominence as a people. Real Estate values are fueled by the influx of African Americans into an area due to their caring and respectful nurturing of these communities, an example of all they have achieved by their enthusiasm for self improvement through hard work and a self-reliant can-do nature. Without their industrious and creative drive, we would be poorer, as a nation.
        Presently enriching the cities of Spokane WA, Chicago IL, Philadelphia PA, Washington D.C., St. Louis MO, New Orleans LA, Los Angeles CA, Flint MI, Baltimore MD, Pontiac MI, Gary Ind., Newark NJ, Cleveland OH, Atlanta GA, Richmond VA, Memphis Tn, Birmingham AL, Camden NJ; and let’s not forget Detroit, the tourism capital of the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • pesky_facts

          You convinced me too … Put a sock in it.

          • rusty shackleford

            wouldnt want “pesky facts” to get in the way of your liberal diatribe

          • pesky_facts

            I’m just one who will judge a person by the content of their character, rather than the color of their skin. So, excuse the heck out of me.

          • rusty shackleford

            yes I agree….then why are you so blind to “pesky facts”?
            never can I recall witnessing anything that comes close to the absolute animalistic, uncouth, dangerous and violent behavior that is displayed by todays upstanding black folks…when is the last time you saw a group of whites riot and flip tables at a dennys for a percieved slight? (real or imagined)…when is the last time you saw whites burn down and loot their own neighborhood because of a disappointing court verdict?….when was the last time you saw a group of whites attack a innocent 80 year old playing the knockout game?,,,when was the last time you saw 300 whites storm a walmart and loot and destroy everything in their path in what they refer to as a flash mob? when was the last time you saw whites off each other (daily) in record numbers.?…Do you know how many blacks were killed by other blacks so far this year in chicago alone?…..nope sorry, its not a poor or oppressed thing…its not a public policy thing….it IS a race thing…..but not a white, yellow, brown or red thing……its a black thing……(you obviously dont know what judging people by the content of their character really means….do you?)

          • Jack

            King was a Commie tool that the left and the media decided to make into The Second Coming in order to, in the words of LBJ, “guarantee the niggr vote for the next 300 years.”

  • whenthedevilvisits_dot_com

    Where’s the poster about a millstone around the neck?

  • MarkJ

    Upcoming art exhibition at the University of Michigan: “The Holocaust As A Life-Sustaining Act”.

  • Bridget

    Liberalism is their religion and abortion their sacrament and it’s not a gift from God it’s a gift from Satan.

  • Rolo Tomassi

    I don’t agree with the message, but I will fight to the end, your 1st amendment to the constitution, right to say it.

  • Robert Parkhurst

    No, child birth is a gift from God. Abortion is all you nutjobs.

  • Jesse Schoeder

    Moloch.

    As a god worshipped by the Phoenicians andCanaanites, Moloch had associations with a particular kind of propitiatory child sacrifice by parents.

    so yeah, the bytch is spot on.

  • Curly

    The “desire to control pregnancies” is for the “good of ourselves, our relationships, and our families.” Cut the bs Ms. Ault, abortion is for self-centered hedonists like you. You want to have indiscriminate relations without consequence. You might as well get yourself fixed instead of murdering your “mistakes”.

  • pesky_facts

    Get this …
    Planned Parenthood is giving Nancy Pelosi its ‘Margaret Sanger Award’ because of her “leadership, excellence, and outstanding contributions to the reproductive health and rights movement over the course of her career.”

    Never mind that the award is named after a woman who advocated eugenics and who wrote that large families would be doing what was “most merciful” if they killed one of their infants.

    • rusty shackleford

      actually, sanger wrote that quote about black families..(theres those pesky facts again)..because she said they would never be able to stand on their own 2 feet….look around…100 years later….was she wrong?

      • pesky_facts

        Such was obvious and needed not to be said … except for stupid trolls, that is.

        • rusty shackleford

          if it was so obvious…why did you misquote her and leave out certain words in her quote?….do you work for NBC?

  • Drew Hymer

    Is a pro-life professor going to steal one of the signs and destroy it in her office?

  • okaayfine

    It’s beyond me how those ugly femanazis are able to get pregnant in the first place. You pro_death libs make me want to vomit. Just sick sh!t you people are

    • pesky_facts

      They get pregnant because so many men think with their ‘other’ brain.

  • “The act of abortion positions women at their most powerful…”
    just like
    “The acts of patricide and matricide position children at their most powerful…”
    and
    “The act of genocide positioned NAZIs at their most powerful…”

    Power is not always a good thing. They say that rape is also more about power than sex: the rapist is exercising his power over his victim.

    It matters how you use power. There are words for people who use their power to kill innocent children. One of those words is EVIL.

    • DevilDog Ding

      Among liberals, power is the ONLY thing.

  • Dwayne Keith

    This is burn in hell material.

  • Lex Luthor

    What the uck is this? POS Liberal scum stains.

  • Browncoat1221

    The Greek physician’s name was Soranus … tehe.

  • denverkid666

    If a woman chooses not to have an abortion or chooses to have a dozen abortions, IT’S NO ONE ELSE’S DAMN BUSINESS.

    • Patrick Henry

      Hmmmmmmm, that’s how Hitler felt about exterminating Jews.

      • Tanks-a-lot

        To be fair, that’s how Jew Bolsheviks felt about exterminating Slavs.

      • rusty shackleford

        no, that what the jews TOLD you in your history books about hitler….but lets not let facts get in the way of your holier than tho diatribe

    • Browncoat1221

      Unless you understand that abortion is the murder of a viable living being, then it’s murder … which has always been society’s business.

      • rusty shackleford

        abortion is legal…..murder is not….

    • John Pittman

      Using that same logic, I should be able to shoot 12 people in a grocery store and it is fine, right? I’m only exercising my freedom of choice.

      • rusty shackleford

        if those 12 people were a black flash mob that is becoming increasingly more popular everyday….then I would say yes….shoot away….the law is on your side

    • stevesharkman

      Correct! We have too many bad parents out there already.

    • matt

      Translation:
      “If a woman chooses not to kill her kids or chooses to kill all of them, IT’S NO ONE ELSE’S DAMN BUSINESS.”

      And yet you women want tax payers to pay for your babykilling. Explain how this is not my business.

    • Jack

      So then we have no business prosecuting murderers.

      • rusty shackleford

        abortion is not a crime punishable by law….nice try though

        • Jack

          The law is a fool. Just because the law doesn’t make it murder, doesn’t mean it isn’t murder.

          • rusty shackleford

            actually…it does…but thanks for playing

  • Tanks-a-lot

    It only makes sense if your god is Moloch

  • rennyangel2

    Abortion is murder and people associated with it are killers.

  • DevilDog Ding

    Are we assuming too much by assuming she is talking about the God of the Bible? This daughter of wrath is obviously a pagan; who knows what god(s) she worships (surely Obamalosi is among her pantheon).

  • Nevadavoter1

    itis a pity that Ms Ault’s mother didn’t abort this crazy bitch before spawning her into the world! This is the outcome of a permissive education system hellbent on trying to influence the minds of our children…

  • Joe

    Well if something is good simply because it’s ancient then murder must be a fantasticly good thing in her mind. Oh, and let’s not forget the ancient practice of treating women like chattel.

    • rusty shackleford

      yes and slavery…and gays…and witches…and soothsayers….and people who work on sunday…….and all those other wonderful christian rules laid out in leviticus by your loving, caring god

      • packstevewood

        The sun rises and sets everyday for you and me. What more do you need to realize that God loves you.

        • rusty shackleford

          oh I dont know…how about some proof?….and not a gut feeling wrapped up and labled as “faith”
          Faith….the belief in something even know there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever to confirm your belief…..and the less evidence you have…somehow (in your head)…makes your “beliefs” that much stronger…you know , like santa and the easter bunny

          • packstevewood

            The sun, moon, earth, stars and planets hang in the air on nothing at all. All the proof you need.

          • rusty shackleford

            actually they are held in place with a thing we like to call gravitational pull….its not voodoo…its quite understandable to those with an IQ over 90……….hows that proof coming along that I asked for?

          • packstevewood

            That’s odd. You can’t see, touch, or hear gravity, but you’re convinced something invisible called gravity holds the universe together. Interesting.

          • rusty shackleford

            actually. gravity has been measured for for over 40 years…and was discovered all the way back in the 1600s…Gravity is affected by a few different things. Among those factors are mass, distance, and placement. The amount of gravity here on Earth varies from point to point. Gravity seems to vary the most in the Northern Hemisphere of our planet. The mass of an object also helps to determine the overall gravity of the object. In general, the more massive an object the gravity it displays. Finally, gravity is affected by the distance between two objects. The closer they are the stronger the gravitational pull will be. Gravity is all around us. It pulls the snow and rain down to the Earth’s surface. It holds everything to the surface. It also keeps our planet in its orbit around the Sun………..invisible and unmeasurable?….surely you jest

          • packstevewood

            Again, interesting and amazing how you believe in something that’s invisible.

          • rusty shackleford

            oxygen is also invisible….do you consider that to be a silly belief?…hows that proof coming?….I also find it interesting and amazing that because you cant grasp scientific knowledge you chock everything up to an imaginary sky creature….now who is being silly?

          • packstevewood

            I didn’t say you’re belief was silly. By the way I do believe that oxygen molecules can be observed through an electron microscope can’t they? I don’t think gravity can be observed that way. By the way, still waiting on your proof as well.

          • rusty shackleford

            perhaps not, but gravity can be measured…ie; The principle used depends on the Doppler effect,
            whereby the line-of-sight spacecraft acceleration can be measured by
            small shifts in frequency of the radio signal, and the measurement of
            the distance from the spacecraft to a station on Earth. Since the
            gravitational field of the Moon affects the orbit of a spacecraft, it is possible to use these tracking data to invert for gravity anomalies. However, because of the Moon’s synchronous rotation
            it is not possible to track spacecraft much over the limbs of the Moon,
            and the far-side gravity field is thus only poorly characterized. The
            acceleration due to gravity on the surface of the Moon is 1.6249 m/s2, about 16.6% that on Earth’s surface.[1] Over the entire surface, the variation in gravitational acceleration is about 0.0253 m/s2 (1.6% of the acceleration due to gravity). Because weight
            is directly dependent upon gravitational acceleration, things on the
            Moon will weigh only 16.6% of what they weigh on the Earth……how do you measure your invisible god?

          • packstevewood

            You still haven’t proved gravity. All you’ve given me are figures and stats. My point is: God is invisible, gravity is invisible. I can’t prove my God to you, you can’t prove your gravity to me or anybody else. It’s a faith thing. All I can give you is this: The Apostle Paul in the N.T. said this – creation itself (trees, the universe, animals and the natural order of things) will testify against the unbeliever, just by the fact that these things exist right before our very eyes. Therefore you are without excuse O’man.

          • rusty shackleford

            yes I can prove gravity to you….it has been proven from mathamatics since 1901……YOU however are correct in saying that you cant prove your “god” to me…because if you could…..you would lose the privilege of calling it” faith” ….and of course faith is believing in something that you have NO proof of…..(can you see the silly circular logic?)

          • rusty shackleford

            Gravity has nothing to do with faith…..Gravity is and has been proved time and time again through mathamatics….we can measure gravity on the moon and on Mars….(AND tell how those planets/stars differ from our gravity)…YOU NOT BEING ABLE TO GRASP THE CONCEPT…Doesnt mean it doesnt exist….(thousands of first graders cant do algebra…that doesnt mean it doesnt exist)……

            quoting from a fictional story book doesnt prove god exist….anyway, why would you want there to be proof of god?….If there were proof….then it would be called “fact”….not “faith”….and without “faith”…where would your religion be?

          • steve

            absence of evidence is not proof. Seek the truth with all you got dude.

          • rusty shackleford

            Faith….the belief in something with out any proof….do you own a dictionary?….but yes I agree…the absence of evidence is NOT proof….this is my point

  • WhereDidMyLibertyGo?

    Let’s take God out of this ungodly butchery for a moment.

    Darwin is not mocked: abortion self-cleanses the Gene Pool.

    And don’t you dare tell us we did not warn you. Again. And again. And again.

    We shall have fewer Americans but better Americans.

    • stevesharkman

      Well said.

  • TroyGale

    I guess I must be out of touch.
    I thought that God was pro-life.

    • rusty shackleford

      god is pro life?…lol…have you read the old testament?

      • TroyGale

        Yes, and God is pro-life.
        Otherwise, their would be no humans.

        • rusty shackleford

          Im sure there are scores of gommorians, levites, hitites, and first born sons…(not to mention the criminals who refused to be circumsised)… that would disagree with you

          • TroyGale

            For those who know nothing about history, and the religion of Abraham, your approximation is understandable, totally incorrect, but understandable.
            You believe you are more intelligent than the people who provided those laws 3000 or so years ago. The very book you mock has had tremendous positive influence on humanity, but people like you can’t admit to that, someone they know might call them an ignorant, fairy tale believer. When you begin to seek wisdom, you will find it, but it is apparent you haven’t even begun to do so. Be blissful.

          • rusty shackleford

            so is it your assertion that god DIDNT kill millions in the old testament (including innocent babies and children)?…lol….thanks for playing

  • stevesharkman

    I could not agree more with the artist. Abortion makes sure there are fewer future liberal voters.
    If all those aborted babies would be voting now, this entire country would be blue.
    Keep abortion legal and frequent for liberals!

    • rusty shackleford

      and black crime…dont forget about future black crime

  • Carol Robinson

    …so why did God say “…go ye upon the earth: increase and multiply…” and not “…go ye upon the earth: decrease & abort/kill the unborn…”
    ???

    • rusty shackleford

      good point…why did god say that the punishment for incest is death?…and then blessed sarah and abrham…(brother and sister)?….or lot and his incestuous daughters?….and considering the whole populations he wiped out because he was on his period, I too wonder why he said go forth and multiply…..more targets for practice maybe?

  • John Akridge

    Doesn’t this violate “separation of church and state”?

  • William Boared

    Seems more like a contraceptive – ‘cuz who’s going there? “crocodile feces, mixed with fermented dough, and placed in the vagina.”
    Also should be small “g” – a gift from “gods” … like the same ones who called for human sacrafices.

  • RedWatt

    Heather Ault could have been fuel in one of the UK’s incinerators and heated buildings.

  • steve

    No, No No, it’s not a gift from God, it is a little kid! Don’t you finally get it? A little kid who hurt no-one, who just wants a chance at life and deserves one. I don’t get abortion advocates, I really don’t. They just don’t get it. One last time: IT IS A LITTLE KID WHO DESERVES HIS/HER SHOT AT LIFE ON THIS PLANET!

  • Sammie Jo

    Seriously? Tell me why god didn’t make sure women who didn’t want to be pregnant, didn’t get pregnant.

    • keepyoureyespeeled

      Tell me why He is obligated to do such a thing?

      • Sammie Jo

        Tell me why you have no sense of humor.

        • Hypnotized Minds

          Because many of us don’t find in humor in this subject at all.

          • Sammie Jo

            The humor was not at abortion, the humor was at calling god into it.
            See ya, I’m done talking to people who get their panties in a twist over a joke.

          • Hypnotized Minds

            Like I said it’s hard to find humor surrounding this topic.

        • keepyoureyespeeled

          Why do you continue to defend your words then? You’ve resorted to attacking the person to validate your point…ad hominem logical fallacy.

          • Sammie Jo

            I’m not defending anything, there is nothing to defend, I made a joke, you people don’t get it and now I’m thinking that maybe I wasn’t so far off the mark and your iddy biddy feewings are hurt.
            Squabble amongst yourselves.

          • keepyoureyespeeled

            So, if it was a joke, and not serious, then you’d be willing to delete your original post or at least make an addendum that it was a joke and not intended as an actual position, correct? Then remove all posts defending why you made the post, right? As if they never happened.
            If you are not willing, then you are just inciting since you already invalidated your post by saying it was a joke.
            If you’re just inciting and that is what you enjoy, then that pretty much tells us what we need to know about you.

    • Stranex

      infantile way of thinking.

      • Sammie Jo

        Really? It started out as a tongue in cheek remark, but now I’m starting to think I hit on something.

    • pesky_facts

      There’s one sure-fire way … Keep one’s knees closed.

      • Sammie Jo

        There’s another sure fire way, glue men’s zippers shut.

        • Hypnotized Minds

          So when a penis is exposed women can’t resist inserting them into their vaginas? Let me guess women and men are equal, well then men shouldn’t have to pay child support, they couldn’t control themselves when the women showed him her vagina. Stop blaming men, and attempting to point the finger. Women have control over heterosexual relationships Women have access to birth control, they often can receive free birth control pills paid for by the tax payers. Men don’t have a pill given to them for free or you would see a lot less accidental pregnancies and men wouldn’t “forget” to take their pills for two months straight. Women scream they want control over their bodies but refuse to take responsibility for them.

          • Sammie Jo

            Oh please, get over yourself.
            So when a man sees a vagina he just can’t resist sticking his dick in it?
            No off the hook for child support either, without him, there would be no baby.
            Birth control? Why can’t men wear condoms? Oh wait, because it doesn’t feel as good.
            Stop blaming women, they are both equally to blame.

          • Hypnotized Minds

            No men can resist, just as women can. But you said glue a mans zipper closed as if women can’t control themselves when they see a penis. You see I offered the same lame argument you offered. Yeah why should dead beat dads be forced to pay child support. That’s what the women gets for having sex with a man who she didn’t make wait for marriage, plus why wasn’t she on some of those free birth control pills that she thinks is her right to receive? If a woman told a man he can’t enter unless she puts a condom on first do you think men would say no thanks and leave? No they are not equally the blame because they are not equal and never have been. When you accept this reality and stop trying to act like a man it will all make sense. We are not the same, you are a woman, I am a man. We play different roles in our relationships with one another.

    • keepyoureyespeeled

      “Tell me why god didn’t make sure women who didn’t want to be pregnant, didn’t get pregnant.”
      -This is the mentality we are dealing with. Those who take no responsibility for their own actions and wait for someone/something/anyone/anything to take care of them…and if they do…but only in the way they want it.

      • Sammie Jo

        Another one who didn’t get it.

        • keepyoureyespeeled

          lol

    • The_Toxic_Avenger

      He did. That’s why he designed them to be able to keep their legs crossed.

      • Sammie Jo

        Well too bad, zippers on mens pants aren’t in the back.
        Women can’t get pregnant without you guys. You did know that, right?

        • Hypnotized Minds

          Unless she was raped women have control over heterosexual relationships. When women have abortions A.K.A. kill their unborn baby because they changed their mind, or decided the guy was the wrong one then you know you’re dealing with a selfish, evil beast. No wonder they cry hear me roar in their song. I know a woman who got an abortion because she found out her boyfriend cheated on her. I watched him beg her over the phone not to kill their baby, she told him no, this is your fault, I’ll show you what happens when you cheat on me. How sick in the head can someone be? So the unborn child gets a death sentence to teach daddy to never screw with mommy’s emotions. Now that’s one strong independent woman…. Feminism has taught women they are masters/Gods who can do no wrong.

          • Sammie Jo

            It still takes two.

          • Hypnotized Minds

            Yes but one has far more power over the whole event then another. Until men start getting free birth control pills paid for by the tax payers, and single fathers stop getting screwed over in court rooms while single mothers make out like bandits, and fathers have the same rights as mothers the whole argument of it takes two, and make believe equality will be a hard pill for me to swallow. I’m not a woman hater either, I know there’s still good women out there and I hope the next generation starts catching on to the double standards and sexism towards men we’re currently seeing now. Maybe these little girls who have programs, and a system catering to them will start realizing how the little boys are getting left behind, and men are losing interest in settling down or having a family because they have little to no rights.

        • The_Toxic_Avenger

          Yes. I did know that women couldn’t get pregnant without men. Not sure how that pertains to your original comment however?
          .
          Why would you want zippers on men’s pants to be in the back? What difference would it make to you?

    • Jack

      How can you be that ignorant and still know how to use a computer?

      • Sammie Jo

        How can YOU be so ignorant not to know that was a tongue in cheek remark?

    • Hypnotized Minds

      Why don’t they just take the free birth control their husband A.K.A. the tax payers bought for them? Decades of free access to birth control, but so many of the single, independent ladies are using abortion for more then medical reasons or in cases involving rape/incest.

      • Sammie Jo

        Why don’t men use condoms?

        • Hypnotized Minds

          Do you know that they don’t? Why don’t women use condoms? Why don’t women refuse sex if the man won’t wear a condom. Why does she need to worry about a condom if her only concern is getting pregnant whens he could take some free birth control pills? Why do women believe they have the right to kill a unborn human being for any reasons outside of rape/incest, and medical reasons? Why are women free of any responsibility on this subject?

  • areyoumoreequal

    ‘abortion is a life sustaining act’…hoo wee–can you say “doublespeak” how about -‘Government oppression provides freedom’ or ‘cruelty is kind’ or ‘taxes provide economic growth’

    • matt

      You just nailed all the liberal catch phrases.

  • Stranex

    These people are psychotic.

  • Phil Aylward

    Heather should thank God her parents did not receive the gift.

  • Betsy Smith

    I am so angry and disgusted, I don’t have words to express how I feel.

    • Stranex

      Its incomprehensible.

  • Willard Hively

    how dare you even write this trash father please forgive themthey know not what they are doing

  • Marcus Antonius

    For leftists, Mass Murder is a Gift from God and certainly, Abortion is one form of Mass Murder. Some of the great Mass Murdering Abortionists of the last 100 years have been Lenin, Berea, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, Mao, The East Block Dictators, The Kims of North Korea, Castro, Ho Chi Min, Pol Pot, Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood and so many others.
    If you revere and protect life at any time during it’s existence, then it should be revered and protected from the beginning.

    • Stranex

      Whoa! You are making all the lobotomized liberals drool at the presentation of facts..

      • Marcus Antonius

        Actually I hope they retch till the bile is a dark red. I would point out that I am an Atheist and that I drove my 15 Y/O Daughter to Planned Parenthood in A2 to get an Abortion in 1982. I would not do it now.

  • VillageViking

    Yes, let’s celebrate the violent death of a fetus just because some woman couldn’t control her sexual appetite…

  • Wow. There’s at least a week of fodder for bad jokes in this one article. Thanks collegefix!
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    A Greek named “Soranus” – pfhuking priceless.
    .
    Stuffing dung and yeasty dough up your vajayjay makes it less likely you’ll get pregnant? – They obviously haven’t been to any Trenton bars at last call. Those dudes will hit anything.

  • Carduus1

    Sick.

  • Brian9999

    Not really going to get into the abortion debate here, but clearly this is simply another case of a mediocre-at-best artist who is desperately seeking to gain fame by making a controversial political statement with her display. Not a new concept. Any attention we give her is to her advantage. Just move along . . .

  • Stranex

    Liberals worship demons.

    • pesky_facts

      Liberals ARE demons.

  • stealthdan

    Abortion is legal. It has never been safe. Someone always dies.

    • pesky_facts

      Yep … legalized murder. Aren’t we proud.

  • Cahal the Mad™

    LMAO Insanity.

  • The_Toxic_Avenger

    So if their parents had been willing to accept this gift from God instead of letting these University of Michigan students go full term…..

  • tcvegas

    Kind of like the way war, slavery, murder, genocide, rape, plunder are gifts from God. Did anybody read this article? Did you read this fool’s quotes? Every benefit and every bit of reasoning she claims as benefits from the “gift from God” can be applied to the other behaviors of mankind just as readily. All of those things I list have gone on since the beginning of mankind….so they can’t be wrong. All of those things are simply natural instincts of mankind. All of those things are “empowering”. All of those things resolve various problems and conflicts. And take note….”anti-choice” comments for these other behaviors just add to the richness of the conversation…..sick yet?

  • Condensate

    Abortion the preferred contraceptive method of liberals.

  • williampenn

    And if they come out alive, beat ’em with a hammer. That’s what Obama voted for.

  • Ironman

    If the “artists” mother killed her, would it be called a post-pregnancy abortion?

  • anon

    I’m pro choice for socialist eugenicists

  • Stranex

    How is the murder of the innocent and the helpless a gift from God?? What “god” are they talking about?

    • PhuxtainHusseinOblome.

    • Hypnotized Minds

      Maybe the same God that killed the first born sons of the Egyptians. I disagree with this lame attempt to create controversy in support for killing unborn babies but lets not be completely ignorant of these many so called Gods.

      • Stranex

        Well they are not invoking an evil god, but a good one. Which is deeply twisted.

        • Hypnotized Minds

          The good one that killed all first born Egyptian baby boys out of revenge?

      • pesky_facts

        There is only one God … period. But you’re probably one of those who is all for the killing of innocents in the middle east in the name of security.

        • Hypnotized Minds

          I’m not one for killing anyone who is innocent and I don’t need the promise of Heaven to make me have these morals or points of view. Pesky facts are facts like the one that your “God” killed more people then the Devil in the first Testament, and your “God” killed babies for his so called “chosen people”. Is that your God? Kind of hard for you to be against some forms of abortion like I am when you worship a God that kills innocent babies out of revenge. How’d you like those pesky facts?

        • Hypnotized Minds

          Well I responded to you once but I don’t see it now that I’ve responded to another on this page. I’ll try to repeat my response I sent you earlier and if you get two response then I’m sorry for the confusion. I’m not for killing anyone who is innocent and doesn’t deserve death. Can you say the same about your God? Your God wouldn’t happen to be the one that’s said to have killed Egyptian children/babies to avenge the so called chosen ones who supposedly were enslaved? I don’t need the promise of Heaven to be a moral person, and I wouldn’t be associated with any God that kills children and seeks revenge by harming the innocent.

  • MikeyDe

    Abortion is Murder. The baby was alive then Planned Parenthood kills it, its that simple. No wonder women were held down so long, look what they say and do when they are empowered.

    • pesky_facts

      They don’t act this way BECAUSE they are women … they act this way because they’ve bought into the lie … which is much easier to do than accept the truth for what it is.
      Don’t act like men wouldn’t do the same if the shoe was on the other foot. Human nature is human nature … and humans are highly gullible.

  • ED

    what “choice” are they referring to. The only “choice for them is to abort and God forbid if you “choose “differently

  • IbSnooker

    Did Heather Ault’s parents have any children who lived?

  • Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar

    The gift that no sane person wishes would have been given to them. Leftists are some seriously sick creatures.

  • keepyoureyespeeled

    If a group is so righteous in its message, why would they need to resort to manipulative language laced with logical fallacies?

    ““anything 46 million women do every year can’t be immoral.””

    This appeal to popularity, excuses “any” action as not being immoral as long as an arbitrary amount of women do it. It also does not explain where this morality/immorality is derived.

    • tcvegas

      Argumentum ad Populum

      • keepyoureyespeeled

        correct

    • IbSnooker

      There’s an overwhelming consensus of scientists in agreement with AGW. So that’s it. Case closed. So now we need to redistribute our wealth, and decimate the middle class by taxing the [email protected] out of all of our energy production. Everyone agrees. We’ve got to do this.

  • mallen717

    Wait till God judges him on the last day. That’ll be a gift, indeed.

  • jasonburnstein

    University of Michigan = S I C K , PE R V E R T E D !

  • Vee_Kay

    This artist has to be on the Obama propaganda ministry. You know, the ones who called Drudge a liar for paying his 2015 taxes (and liberty tax). Hope the pope doesn’t see this before Obama gets his blessing….

  • Joe_E_in_the_IE

    I smell a Presidential Medal of Freedom as soon as POTUS gets back from visiting the Pope!

  • mallen717

    MOLOCH is his god.

  • Phrack

    Congratulations College Fix and Drudge Report, you’ve given them just what they wanted… national exposure.

    I guess it’s a mutually beneficial situation though.

    • tcvegas

      National exposure is just what this type of philosophy needs. These people no longer have the luxury of living in their own little echo chambers.

      • Phrack

        You know what they say: “There’s no such thing as bad publicity, as long as they spell your name right.”

        This article may even help her with future grant funding.

        • tcvegas

          They also say “The internet is forever”. Now this college kid will have to live with this idiocy for the rest of her life…just like that drunken sex tape from spring break….it’s forever.

          • Phrack

            How’d you know about my tape?

            Uhh, seriously though, in the arts world, this would be classified as one helluva entrance. It just secured her a seat at the table.

    • Rotorwash

      In this case, national exposure is beneficial.
      The more light shed on the truth of the slaughter of millions of innocent children, the better.
      How did international exposure of the German eradication of Jews turn out?

  • Stranex

    Unless these foolish people repent, they will burn in Hell with their demon “god.”

  • keepyoureyespeeled

    More manipulative messages from this “righteous” group,

    ““ ‘Personhood’ for zygotes cruelly subverts the very idea of a culture
    of life and potentially criminalizes every pregnant woman.””

    By this method of thinking, wouldn’t anyone and everyone be considered potentially criminal as long as there was even a single law in society to potentially break?

  • Fred863

    Choice is a gift from God.
    If a women’s choice is taken away, then she has a choice.
    Her choice is taken away during rape, incest and a medical condition that might threaten her life as determined by a competent medical doctor. Then she has the choice and right to an abortion.
    If she CHOOSES to have sex, then the consequence may be a baby, whether she wants one or not. She has made her choice.
    If she becomes pregnant, at that point the CHOICE changes from her to the fetus.

  • NoParty

    This is an attention getting “Art” display for a person whose life was not cut short. Someone who is making a living pushing death, aka abortions…. even partial birth. Making a living pushing death is pretty evil. What does it say about the University, who allows it, or anyone who walks through the doors to this supposed Art exhibit? It says all there is to